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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Sunday, November 13, 2022Red Sox Rumors: Boston ‘High On The List’ For Star Free AgentHe will be 36 in January. Consider me unenthused. Of course, I’m not willing to pay $30 a month for NESN so I only watch a game or two a year now. That’s after watching around 100 games on TV and another ten at Fenway for years and years. I get it, though, the Red Sox don’t need fans like me.
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Posted: November 13, 2022 at 10:51 AM | 21 comment(s)
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1. DarrenThis is also a fun reminder that the Red Sox, after missing out on Abreu, pivoted to spending $72 million on Rusney Castillo. Fun memories!
EDIT: call it 2/$35 with a $17.5 team option with a $2.5 M buyout.
I think the plan is to keep building the depth and quality of the farm system, filing in holes in the interim with (generally) short-term veterans. But if that was the case, then why didn't the team do whatever it took last year to go under the soft salary "caps" that would have reset Boston's penalty status?
At the moment, the 2023 Red Sox do not seem poised to truly compete, which makes me question the wisdom of signing a 36-year-old to a multiyear deal.
Why are you willing to wait? The team has $80 mil.+ available under the threshold and the resources to go well beyond, and there are some excellent players available.
Yeah, that was an odd choice, given that it didn't appear to be that hard. Also, it's sort of funny seeing them linked to multiyear deals for Abreu and Eovaldi while apparently hesitant about 30-year-old Bogaerts long term.
--Fill the rotation with 8 or so decent quality starters who might not be very durable, and hope that their absences line up nicely.
--Keep gambling in the bullpen.
--Add position mid-range players on short deals, hoping to mix and match to play to their strengths.
--Avoid long-term deals.
I don't love it.
Makes me want to go all Joe Pesci on you "you think I'm funny? Funny how?"
But yeah the idea that they're signing lower tier older guys to short term contracts before locking up younger stars isn't comforting.
So I looked at Abreu's spray charts to see how he'd fit a Fenway and tried to convince myself the monster would turn some of his outs into singles but not turn his HR into doubles and also that he'd wrap some more HR around the Pesky pole.
Then they will never sign another great player. They can't even lock up the good, young guys they already have in house(Devers for instance).
It's really not that hard. Lock up your good, young position players, trade for and sign SP for 3/4 years for good money, cobble together a pen utilising whatever analytics Tampa uses.
Since Fenway sports are selling LFC AND going cheap with the Red Sox it would seem that maybe John is struggling to pay the mortgage!
The sad part about last season was the OF production was dreadful and they hit like 9 homers, yet they traded Renfroe for pennies on the dollar and didn't sign Schwarber(who apparently really wanted to stay) and those 2 guys hit like 75 homers last year. Sure, not the best fielders around, but geez, at least you'd have a decent RF and a guy who would be taking over the DH slot this year.
But also ...
I think the plan is to keep building the depth and quality of the farm system, filing in holes in the interim with (generally) short-term veterans.
They're not gonna sign Abreu for 5 years, they're gonna sign him for 2-3 as a "short-term veteran" to fill a hole at DH with some 1B. As a DH, it's nearly impossible he could even block somebody (as teams seem to hate restricting a young player to DH no matter how obvious it is that's his natural role).
It's certainly possible that Abreu on a 2-3 year deal won't be the optimal use of tens of millions but it would probably work out just fine and even if it's a bust, it's simply not going to be enough money to matter. Meanwhile Abreu could be a fun guy to watch hit in Fenway. It's only 128 PA but career 310/367/586 at Fenway -- oddly just 6 HR but a solid 14 doubles. He might make a run at the doubles record, that'll be fun. Admittedly I may be "biased" by his 346/408/641 career against the Cubs -- I'll be happy as long as he doesn't land in StL or Milw.
But hey, you cheapskates wouldn't front up for Schwarber ... or Mookie ... or X ... or Devers so I can see how important $/WAR is to you folks. :-)
I'm not saying the situations are exactly analogous, nor do I think it's indefensible. It's just sort of weird to see that the most they've offered Bogaerts so far takes him through age 33, and Eovaldi's deal would start at age 33 and Abreu's at age 36.
See above. And crowdsourcing for Bogaerts is 6/168 for what it's worth.
I'm the person who wrote the seemingly-contradictory pair of statements, but as Abreu's contract details come out today, I feel even more confident that signing a guy like Abreu was exactly the wrong thing for the 2023 Red Sox to do.
It is reported as three years, $60m guaranteed. It may be $20m a year for three years, or it could be something like 3/$54m, with a $6m buyout of a 4th-year option. Let's call it $20m a year for three years.
As a Red Sox fan, the idea that management would give a 36-year-old DH a 3-year deal for that kind of money when they are reportedly $50m apart from signing Devers to a long-term deal is lunacy. I'd much rather take a chunk of that $20m a year and apply it to Devers' extension, and then fill DH with a cheap bat-only guy stuck in the minors. Heck, they may already have a guy kind of like that in Enmanuel Valdez, who they just acquired from Houston as part of the Vazquez deadline deal. He's a left-handed hitter; platoon him with a cheap right-handed hitter, and use the money to keep the young premium players we already have.
Odds are both of them will eventually be passed (ununpassed?) by Karkovice before their careers are over.
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