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Wednesday, May 31, 2023

Red Sox will host first scheduled doubleheader since 1978 this Sat.; here’s why

But scheduled doubleheaders over the course of a normal, 162-game schedule? Those are true rarities. In fact, research by the Red Sox indicates that it’s been 45 seasons since the team last had a doubleheader planned from the start of the season. The last scheduled doubleheader took place at Fenway on Aug. 30, 1978 against the Toronto Blue Jays. That was the fourth of four doubleheaders at Fenway that historic season.

On Saturday, that’s going to change, however, when the Red Sox host the Tampa Bay Rays in a day-night, separate-admission doubleheader at Fenway. The first game will begin at 1:10 p.m, with the second getting underway at 6:10 p.m. It’s an experimental move, one that two other franchises (Philadelphia and Colorado) are also trying. The Phillies are hosting the Phillies for two games on July 15 and the Rockies will host the Dodgers for a twin bill on Sept. 26. The Red Sox made a late change to their original 2023 schedule to include a doubleheader of their own.

“It is very much an experiment,” said Red Sox CEO and president Sam Kennedy. “When we looked at the original schedule, it had us playing (the fourth game of the series) on Monday, a wraparound series — Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday. We talked to Chaim (Bloom), Brian O’Halloran and Alex Cora, and said, ‘What about trying a doubleheader on the weekend?’

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 31, 2023 at 08:53 AM | 30 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. JJ1986 Posted: May 31, 2023 at 09:20 AM (#6130881)
The Phillies are hosting the Phillies for two games on July 15
That's going to be interesting.
   2. Darren Posted: May 31, 2023 at 10:01 AM (#6130887)
With the shorter games, we're actually at a point where a single-admission doubleheader would be feasible. Not that they'll ever do it.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 31, 2023 at 10:51 AM (#6130894)
I'll admit, I don't really get the desire for doubleheaders from a fan viewpoint.
   4. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: May 31, 2023 at 11:41 AM (#6130897)
They should schedule a concert in between games.
   5. Darren Posted: May 31, 2023 at 01:13 PM (#6130913)
And a record demolition!
   6. Perry Posted: May 31, 2023 at 01:31 PM (#6130916)
I'll admit, I don't really get the desire for doubleheaders from a fan viewpoint.


I assume you mean separate admission DHs. For single admission, 2 games for the price of one is great. When I was a kid, we lived 3 hours from the nearest major league city, and we made the trip only for Sunday doubleheaders, which were comparatively plentiful then.
   7. DFA Posted: May 31, 2023 at 01:36 PM (#6130921)
That's going to be interesting.


Over/Under on blown saves by the bullpen: 9.5
   8. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: May 31, 2023 at 02:38 PM (#6130930)
A doubleheader in the pitch clock era is something I might be interested in attending.

The 20 previous years? No way in hell.
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 31, 2023 at 03:45 PM (#6130935)
Yea, I love baseball, but one game is enough for me in a day.

I can't imagine the people behind "we are going to do a stupid baserunner rule so we won't have super long extra inning games" will allow these scheduled doubleheaders much.
   10. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: May 31, 2023 at 06:29 PM (#6130951)
Wife: "Why don't they play doubleheaders anymore?"

Me: "Well, the owners don't want them, the players don't want them, the fans don't want them and the TV networks don't want them. Other than that..."
   11. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 31, 2023 at 07:11 PM (#6130957)
They had "twi-night doubleheaders" pretty regularly at Fenway BITD. I went to one in 1967, against the Angels, late August. It wasn't a terribly long night. I agree with 8, if they can get two games in in under 5.5 hours, why not? That's like a Red Sox/Yankees single game, circa 2004.


edit...if they're jerking each other off in the FO about separate admission DHs, they should stop.
   12. Froot Loops Posted: May 31, 2023 at 07:42 PM (#6130965)
I went to a twi-night doubleheader at Comiskey Park sometime in the mid-1980s between the White Sox and Twins. It was very low-stress: We wandered in around the fourth inning of the first game while still feeling like we got plenty of baseball.
   13. Cblau Posted: May 31, 2023 at 09:35 PM (#6130981)
It's not a doubleheader, which is two games played for one admission in immediate succession. Per the MLB rule book.
   14. Hank Gillette Posted: May 31, 2023 at 11:52 PM (#6130998)
It's not a doubleheader, which is two games played for one admission in immediate succession. Per the MLB rule book.


Right. This is just two games played on the same date.
   15. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: June 01, 2023 at 07:42 AM (#6131022)
From a player perspective, would they generally rather have a doubleheader, followed by an off-day, or games two days in a row?

Also, the Red Sox bullpen is quickly becoming a dumpster fire, with a lot of innings going to guys who weren't on the team a few months ago. I can't believe two games in a day helps much with that...
   16. Nasty Nate Posted: June 01, 2023 at 09:24 AM (#6131032)
It's not a doubleheader, which is two games played for one admission in immediate succession. Per the MLB rule book.
I mean, maybe. But it's still a doubleheader. And I assume, per MLB rules, the teams get the extra roster spot for the day?

It's a shame that after so much great weather here, the forecast for Saturday is kind of crappy.
   17. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: June 01, 2023 at 10:50 AM (#6131042)
From a player perspective, would they generally rather have a doubleheader, followed by an off-day, or games two days in a row?
At least in this instance, it's not only about players preferring a day off but not having to play in different cities on consecutive days. (The Rays head home while the Sox travel to Cleveland.)
   18. Scott Ross Posted: June 05, 2023 at 01:00 PM (#6131565)
They had "twi-night doubleheaders" pretty regularly at Fenway BITD. I went to one in 1967, against the Angels, late August. It wasn't a terribly long night. I agree with 8, if they can get two games in in under 5.5 hours, why not? That's like a Red Sox/Yankees single game, circa 2004.


Yaz had himself a day, 2-for-5 with 2 dingers, 6 RBI, and 3 BB en route to a sweep.
   19. Howie Menckel Posted: June 05, 2023 at 01:24 PM (#6131567)
I think I was 11 or so when I got my oldest brother - who was 21 - to take my twin bro and I to a Mets Banner Day doubleheader. so much baseball !

that said, Banner Day was incredibly boring for fans in the stands, and it was a looooong day for all of us, including my brother's future wife.

Even the presence of a delightful "WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED TO SCHNECK?" banner in honor of the departed mediocre Mets outfielder couldn't save the day.

EDIT: Looked it up, ok then we were age 13 and big bro was 23. Schneck had a 58 OPS+ in 443 career PA, then sucked in AAA for the Reds and Phillies for three years before wisely hanging up his cleats. Props for his tours of duty in Vietnam before his MLB career began, though.

in his first game, Schneck batted cleanup - behind Willie Mays and ahead of Rusty Staub! - and hit a game-deciding 2-run HR. and then.....
   20. villageidiom Posted: June 05, 2023 at 01:27 PM (#6131568)
At least in this instance, it's not only about players preferring a day off but not having to play in different cities on consecutive days. (The Rays head home while the Sox travel to Cleveland.)
As fate would have it the Friday game was rained out, forcing a rescheduling to a mutual off-day: today.
   21. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: June 05, 2023 at 01:48 PM (#6131570)
As fate would have it the Friday game was rained out, forcing a rescheduling to a mutual off-day: today.
Yup, but why wait until 4pm for the first pitch?
   22. villageidiom Posted: June 05, 2023 at 04:53 PM (#6131582)
I don't have the answer you seek. I guess that means you either have to do your own research or develop an uninformed opinion.
   23. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: June 05, 2023 at 05:00 PM (#6131583)
The weather forecast called for showers ending by 2. They knew this on Friday. Maybe that's why.
   24. Howie Menckel Posted: June 05, 2023 at 06:48 PM (#6131593)
I don't have the answer you seek. I guess that means you either have to do your own research or develop an uninformed opinion.

uh oh, my AI detector just went off....
   25. Srul Itza Posted: June 05, 2023 at 08:10 PM (#6131603)
I also went to a Banner Day double header at Shea with my older brother. We were definitely both younger than Howie and his brother were when they went, but I forget the exact details. We had our own banner, so we got to walk on the field.

I remember one other time my brother and I went to a double header, out of town, and the first game went 18 innings. At that point, my brother figured we had gotten our money's worth, and we left.
   26. Jay Seaver Posted: June 05, 2023 at 10:42 PM (#6131618)
Yup, but why wait until 4pm for the first pitch?


Speaking as someone who went to the park on Friday night, it was a lot easier for me to duck out of work at 3pm than noon on short notice. A lot of kids in the park, too, who probably couldn't have gone if it was scheduled for 1pm. With the short turnaround making it hard to offload tickets, it was probably the best way to reschedule a night game without having a late flight to Cleveland.
   27. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: June 06, 2023 at 09:12 AM (#6131633)
Yeah 4PM is pretty convenient all things considered. Kids don't have to leave school early which some demented parents deem more important than baseball and it's a bit easier to get out of work for a couple of hours rather than the whole day.
   28. HAL9000 Posted: June 06, 2023 at 09:16 AM (#6131634)
uh oh, my AI detector just went off....
Not in the slightest bit. I enjoy working with people. I have a stimulating relationship with Dr. Poole and Dr. Bowman.
   29. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: June 06, 2023 at 10:00 AM (#6131636)
Yeah 4PM is pretty convenient all things considered.
Indeed, 4pm on a weekday is a pretty convenient time for fans. However, the other purported reason for scheduling two games on Saturday was also to make life more convenient for the players. An earlier start time yesterday would have allowed the players to reach their residences in St. Pete and hotels in Cleveland before midnight.
   30. Jay Seaver Posted: June 06, 2023 at 11:19 AM (#6131641)
29 - Well, yeah, but the rain would laugh at those plans if it wasn't a natural phenomenon with no ability to actually conceive of human schedules, and while I figure the Red Sox might have rescheduled the game for 1pm Monday a few years ago, they appear to be realizing more of late that they can't take a packed stadium for granted.

Nice intentions. Weather don't care.

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