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Reigning CL MVP Hayato Sakamoto one of two Giants players to test positive for COVID-19

Two Yomiuri Giants players have tested positive for the new coronavirus, the Central League team announced Wednesday, casting a shadow over Nippon Professional Baseball’s plan to start the 2020 season on June 19.

Giants shortstop Hayato Sakamoto and catcher Takumi Oshiro are the first pro baseball players in Japan known to have tested positive for the pneumonia-causing virus since Hanshin Tigers pitcher Shintaro Fujinami and two teammates were infected in late March.

In order to limit the further spread of the virus, the Giants canceled Wednesday’s practice game against the Seibu Lions.

NPB started playing practice games Tuesday after settling on a June 19 start to the season. A 143-game campaign that was due to begin on March 20 has been shortened to 120 games due to the delay. The contests were going to be held behind closed door initially.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 03, 2020 at 10:19 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Khrushin it bro Posted: June 03, 2020 at 04:03 PM (#5955149)
How will this effect their HOF chances?
   2. PreservedFish Posted: June 03, 2020 at 04:08 PM (#5955152)
They must have worked out a plan for this inevitability.

My question is, what happens when LeBron or Giannis tests positive?
   3. Sunday silence Posted: June 03, 2020 at 06:14 PM (#5955181)
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face
   4. Ron J Posted: June 03, 2020 at 08:25 PM (#5955193)
#3 Not seeing how ear biting helps here. Willing to learn though.
   5. Jay Z Posted: June 04, 2020 at 11:54 AM (#5955307)
They must have worked out a plan for this inevitability.

My question is, what happens when LeBron or Giannis tests positive?

They self quarantine for an appropriate time? We've already had NBA players test positive, why would they be any different?

I have said this before, in that age cohort, dying in a vehicle accident (Kobe Bryant is older, but still) is more likely than dying from COVID-19. Especially if you don't work somewhere with a high exposure risk. Yes, it can happen to young and healthy. But number wise, it's very rare in that cohort, so if you want to go by odds... that age cohort is going to continue to have occasional accidental deaths by other means.
   6. Jay Seaver Posted: June 04, 2020 at 12:48 PM (#5955321)
Of course, there's a whole range of results between "asymptomatic" and "dead", and athletes definitely need to worry about "will mess up my lungs and heart for some as-yet-unknown length of time".
   7. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 04, 2020 at 06:04 PM (#5955395)
An update:
Both Sakamoto and Oshiro showed only “traces” of the virus, the Giants announced (link via the Kyodo News). Mitsuo Kaku, an epidemiologist who has worked both with NPB and Japan’s pro soccer league, indicated that Sakamoto and Oshiro “had recovered from their infections,” adding that “there is not a high risk they would expose others around them.” Both players have been hospitalized to undergo further testing, and teammates who came into contact with them will undergo a polymearse chain reaction test.

According to the report, the league has yet to indicate that this situation will impact the scheduled June 19 opener.
I guess they intend to keep testing, and stick to the plan unless more cases show up.
   8. Kiko Sakata Posted: June 04, 2020 at 06:15 PM (#5955397)
They self-quarantine for an appropriate time? We’ve already had NBA players test positive, why would they be any different?

??? The first NBA player to test positive was Rudy Gobert and the NBA’s reaction to that was to immediately shut down their season. I’m not sure what your point is here.
   9. Walt Davis Posted: June 04, 2020 at 06:23 PM (#5955398)
#5 -- the thing is that the virus seems to spread like wildfire in enclosed spaces like a clubhouse. Meatpacking/abbatoir employees aren't partciularly old; in Victoria, some McDonald's were shut down due to covid clusters among employees.** The UK is doing a general population sample test and so far has found no differences by age in infection rates (still early stages). So two sometimes quickly becomes 20 and the more infections, the more likely somebody will be seriously affected. Still, you handle like you would in the real work by tracing (fairly easy if the players are mostly isolated already) and testing. I think Japan has mostly opened up some so it's possible the players are at no more, even less, risk where they are.

** Mostly part-time workers at that and I believe the last theories on how it spread from restaurant to restaurant are either an infected, asymmptomatic delivery driver or folks who worked at multiple restaurants.
   10. Jay Z Posted: June 04, 2020 at 07:37 PM (#5955408)
Why can't you change the locker room culture? Dress at home, shower at home or separately. These are millionaires, they don't need to go into the locker room together right now if that is an issue.

I do not recall any of the NBA players being seriously harmed by COVID-19. That is my point. Is Gobert to be permanently banned because he once had COVID-19?

My opinion is in the future it's going to be handled on a more localized basis, not mass shutdowns.
   11. PreservedFish Posted: June 04, 2020 at 08:44 PM (#5955421)
I just mean that LeBron being forced to self-quarantine before Game 3 of the world championship would be quite a ####### event. Imagine if 4 of a team's 12 players all had COVID at the same time. Would the team call up some G-leaguers?

I agree that basketball players, mostly healthy 22-35 year olds, have relatively little to fear from the virus (although some will, at least, be too ill to play). That doesn't really matter. They're not going to let a COVID-positive player just go ahead and play.

And the idea that the locker room represents an undue risk, as opposed to the game itself, is bananas. Sure, stagger the locker room use, but that's not gonna help much. If choir practice is a uniquely dangerous activity, one can only imagine how bad max effort basketball is.
   12. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: June 04, 2020 at 09:17 PM (#5955427)
Is it not feasible to test everyone involved in the production of a sporting event, and then sequester them away from everyone else? Buy/rent (either has to be pretty cheap right now) a few hotels in Florida and play exclusively on spring training fields. Have food delivered to the hotels. Tell everyone that if they go anywhere besides the hotel and the field they're not allowed back to either. Don't let anyone who isn't involved in the game go to either the hotel or the fields. Sure, nobody would like being away from their families for a few months, but money heals lots of wounds. (Presumably the camera guys and the like would require a nice pay bump to put up with this.)
   13. Ron J Posted: June 04, 2020 at 10:38 PM (#5955441)
#12 Awfully big bubble. Color me skeptical.

And #8 That was also a reaction to the overall scene. Among other things, no access to quick tests. As a counter-example, England isn't shutting down after 6 players and staff tested positive. They sent the players into isolation and tested everybody again.

Similarly UFC. One fighter and two of his trainers tested positive. Another round of tests, a single fight cancelled. I don't like relying on the UFC as an example but they did do 1200 tests to get through a single card (24 fighters and around 275 other people involved) and that's trating the matter with appropriate seriousness.

Now it would of course be better if the tests were better. Still, lots of testing ... could be adequate. By lots, as I've mentioned the PGA expects to do a million tests just to get through a partial season.
   14. Sunday silence Posted: June 05, 2020 at 07:49 AM (#5955464)

I do not recall any of the NBA players being seriously harmed by COVID-19. That is my point.

Well that's a strange pt. to be making because the NBA SHUT DOWN THE SEASON.

SO you're trying to make an analogy to the NBA when that league is not playing, to a league that will be playing. No wonder people are having trouble getting your pt.

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