Ok I guess.

Sad that the Cardinals couldn't make this deal. I think this might be the best free agent signing of year.

Good guy to eat up innings. And I absolutely LOVE the 2 year limit the Metsies seem to be imposing.

Every rotation needs some youth.

That's a solid get.

That's the worst players' deal of the winter. What a great price for the Mets. Does he have an opt out? Did he negotiate this a month ago and just announced ? Why would he sign for so little?

What is wrong with the cardinals not re-upping when their whole rotation comes off next year ?

Quintana was 20th in MLB in fWAR last year and 31st in RA9 WAR. Costs less than two mediocre RPs in this market. What a steal.

Sad that the Cardinals couldn't make this deal. I think this might be the best free agent signing of year.

Willson Contreras and his agent must have distracted them.

Nice signing, good replacement for Taijuan Walker for fewer years and lower AAV.

I think folks are overrating Quintana here. He's had a solid past, but barely pitched in 2020-21 and for 2018-21, it's 418 innings of 92 ERA+ and 1.5 WAR. There's a reason the Pirates got him for 1/$2 last year and those are the same reasons why 2/$26 won the day here. Maybe the sparkling new 0.4 HR/9 rate is here to stay; if it's not, he's a low-K average or a bit worse 34-yo starter who could go bust at any moment.

We are not usually so kind about signing guys who had their career year at 33.

We are not usually so kind about signing guys who had their career year at 33.

13 mil per year is the big point. That's chicken scratch if he's just an innings eater, if he performs to his career era+ it's a steal, if he performs as well as he did last year, it's probably the best war/$ free agent signing of the off season.(and remember I think war underrates starting pitching value in this era)

We are not usually so kind about signing guys who had their career year at 33.

I don't think age matters much for pitchers. Health does. They don't really age predictably.

13 mil per year is the big point. That's chicken scratch if he's just an innings eater,

Agree. The Red Sox signed Jansen for 2/32. The Quintana signing is way better then that. Different requirements of pitching, but still someone has to get through those 1450+ innings each year.

Cards sign Contreras

Where's Banta? I need snipers in Queens. Yes, multiple.

Lassus, just because you don’t see us, doesn’t mean we aren’t always in position.

:) happy holidays!

$13 is chicken scratch -- for a guy who signed for $2 M last year. Last year Tyler Anderson, a classic innings-eater, got 1/$8 ... had a huge year, parlayed that into 3/$39. Last year Heaney got $8.5, had a big half-year, now 2/$25. So it's the going rate, not chicken scratch, and all based on fluke years. Unless this year's Andersons are gonna get $13 M (which they might the way things are going), you're probably better off staying at the 1/$8 end of the market. There's nothing "wrong" with this signing but it's not a bargain relative to market (at least not old market nor apparently new market) and it's a big jump for a guy who could barely get a deal last year (which might have been the bigger mistake).

I don't think age matters much for pitchers. Health does. They don't really age predictably.

Agree more than disagree but this is more true for the upper end of the pitching market. You get down around the 100 ERA+, higher-contact pitchers and those guys are very much hot potatoes -- which is one reason why they usually only get 2-year contracts. But sure, "he had 150 decent innings last year, he's a good bet for 150 decent innings this year" is a decision completely independent of age ... but that's true for hitters as well.

And the Red Sox idiocy is not cover for anybody else's decisions. :-) The Quintana-relevant reliever question is more whether you're rather have two guys who are a decent bet to give you 100-120 relief innings at a 120 ERA+ or better or a SP who is a decent bet to give you 125-150 innings of 100 ERA? I'm not sure what the answer to that question is anymore.