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Wednesday, December 07, 2022

Report: Mets sign Jose Quintana to two-year, $26 million deal

The New York Mets have agreed to a two-year, $26 million contract with left-hander Jose Quintana, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports.

In 32 starts between the Pittsburgh Pirates and St. Louis Cardinals last season, Quintana put up a 2.93 ERA and 1.21 WHIP along with 137 strikeouts in 165.2 innings.

Quintana signed a one-year, $2 million deal with Pittsburgh before getting dealt to St. Louis.

The move comes days after the Mets signed Justin Verlander to a massive two-year $86 million deal to revamp their starting rotation.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 07, 2022 at 10:52 AM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Adam Starblind Posted: December 07, 2022 at 11:13 AM (#6108492)
Ok I guess.
   2. cardsfanboy Posted: December 07, 2022 at 11:46 AM (#6108506)
Sad that the Cardinals couldn't make this deal. I think this might be the best free agent signing of year.
   3. reech Posted: December 07, 2022 at 11:53 AM (#6108508)
Good guy to eat up innings. And I absolutely LOVE the 2 year limit the Metsies seem to be imposing.
   4. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: December 07, 2022 at 11:59 AM (#6108509)
Every rotation needs some youth.
   5. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 07, 2022 at 12:00 PM (#6108510)
That's a solid get.
   6. The Duke Posted: December 07, 2022 at 12:55 PM (#6108522)
That's the worst players' deal of the winter. What a great price for the Mets. Does he have an opt out? Did he negotiate this a month ago and just announced ? Why would he sign for so little?

What is wrong with the cardinals not re-upping when their whole rotation comes off next year ?
   7. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 07, 2022 at 01:15 PM (#6108525)
Quintana was 20th in MLB in fWAR last year and 31st in RA9 WAR. Costs less than two mediocre RPs in this market. What a steal.
   8. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: December 07, 2022 at 01:15 PM (#6108526)
Sad that the Cardinals couldn't make this deal. I think this might be the best free agent signing of year.
Willson Contreras and his agent must have distracted them.
   9. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: December 07, 2022 at 01:24 PM (#6108527)

Nice signing, good replacement for Taijuan Walker for fewer years and lower AAV.
   10. Walt Davis Posted: December 07, 2022 at 02:33 PM (#6108554)
I think folks are overrating Quintana here. He's had a solid past, but barely pitched in 2020-21 and for 2018-21, it's 418 innings of 92 ERA+ and 1.5 WAR. There's a reason the Pirates got him for 1/$2 last year and those are the same reasons why 2/$26 won the day here. Maybe the sparkling new 0.4 HR/9 rate is here to stay; if it's not, he's a low-K average or a bit worse 34-yo starter who could go bust at any moment.

We are not usually so kind about signing guys who had their career year at 33.
   11. cardsfanboy Posted: December 07, 2022 at 02:39 PM (#6108557)
We are not usually so kind about signing guys who had their career year at 33.


13 mil per year is the big point. That's chicken scratch if he's just an innings eater, if he performs to his career era+ it's a steal, if he performs as well as he did last year, it's probably the best war/$ free agent signing of the off season.(and remember I think war underrates starting pitching value in this era)
   12. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 07, 2022 at 04:44 PM (#6108588)

We are not usually so kind about signing guys who had their career year at 33.


I don't think age matters much for pitchers. Health does. They don't really age predictably.
   13. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: December 07, 2022 at 04:50 PM (#6108591)
13 mil per year is the big point. That's chicken scratch if he's just an innings eater,


Agree. The Red Sox signed Jansen for 2/32. The Quintana signing is way better then that. Different requirements of pitching, but still someone has to get through those 1450+ innings each year.
   14. Lassus Posted: December 07, 2022 at 07:12 PM (#6108612)
Cards sign Contreras

Where's Banta? I need snipers in Queens. Yes, multiple.
   15. Banta Posted: December 07, 2022 at 07:54 PM (#6108623)
Lassus, just because you don’t see us, doesn’t mean we aren’t always in position.

:) happy holidays!
   16. Walt Davis Posted: December 08, 2022 at 01:38 PM (#6108745)
$13 is chicken scratch -- for a guy who signed for $2 M last year. Last year Tyler Anderson, a classic innings-eater, got 1/$8 ... had a huge year, parlayed that into 3/$39. Last year Heaney got $8.5, had a big half-year, now 2/$25. So it's the going rate, not chicken scratch, and all based on fluke years. Unless this year's Andersons are gonna get $13 M (which they might the way things are going), you're probably better off staying at the 1/$8 end of the market. There's nothing "wrong" with this signing but it's not a bargain relative to market (at least not old market nor apparently new market) and it's a big jump for a guy who could barely get a deal last year (which might have been the bigger mistake).

I don't think age matters much for pitchers. Health does. They don't really age predictably.

Agree more than disagree but this is more true for the upper end of the pitching market. You get down around the 100 ERA+, higher-contact pitchers and those guys are very much hot potatoes -- which is one reason why they usually only get 2-year contracts. But sure, "he had 150 decent innings last year, he's a good bet for 150 decent innings this year" is a decision completely independent of age ... but that's true for hitters as well.

And the Red Sox idiocy is not cover for anybody else's decisions. :-) The Quintana-relevant reliever question is more whether you're rather have two guys who are a decent bet to give you 100-120 relief innings at a 120 ERA+ or better or a SP who is a decent bet to give you 125-150 innings of 100 ERA? I'm not sure what the answer to that question is anymore.

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