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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Saturday, July 30, 2022Report: San Diego Padres, Joe Musgrove closing in on 5-year, $100 million deal
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Posted: July 30, 2022 at 09:23 AM | 8 comment(s)
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1. Walt Davis Posted: July 30, 2022 at 06:09 PM (#6089014)Guasman 5/$110, 111 ERA+, 9 WAR, through 35
Ray 5/$115, 112 ERA+, 9 WAR, 1 CYA, through 34
ERod 5/$77, 114 ERA+, 10 WAR, through 33, no 2020
Rodon 2/$44, 121 ERA+, 7 WAR, hurt a lot, through 30 with an opt-out
Stroman 3/$71, 116 ERA+, 7.5 WAR, missed half of 2018 and sat out 2020, through 33
ERod looked like the bargain but has been hurt and pitched terribly this year. I'm not sure why Stroman couldn't get a 4th year but he does have the highest AAV. I'm impressed nobody went overboard on Ray after his 2021.
So 5/$100 is close enough for both parties, certainly if Musgrove likes it in SD, no reason to risk something popping in the last 2 months or no other team offering the 5th year in hopes of maybe $10-15 M more. I recall thinking Musgrove (and the others) were ridiculously light return for Cole but he's become just sort of standard light return in that sort of deal. I have no idea how the Musgrove to the Padres deal is working out for the Pirates but Bednar is a good reliever at least.
That's basically a be average over the contract contract which I don't know why a team would want that with a long term contract.
For some time I've been thinking there must be a formula based on WAA that would more accurately price FA contracts. Something like the first WAR costs about $4M (a good bench player), the second WAR costs about $6 ($10 for an average player), then each WAA is something like $10 (or maybe $8 for the first one and then $10+ for more). I don't know what Musgrove projects to but 1.5 WAA per year might on its own be worth $15 M. And pitchers just don't age in the same way as hitters do.
Anyway, if Schwarber can get 4/$79 (ages 29-32) and Castallanos can get 5/$100 (ages 30-34), Musgrove should be able to get about 5/$100 too. For 2018-21, Castellanos had 8.9 WAR but just 1.7 WAA and per 650 PA just 2.7 WAR. Obviously Castallanos is more likely to give a "full" season of 650 PA than Musgrove is to give you a "full" season of 225 innings. So to maintain Musgrove's WAA you need some average relievers but those don't seem that hard to find or cost all that much. Admittedly, whether giving Castellanos a 5-year contract was a smart idea is another question.
That's basically a be average over the contract contract which I don't know why a team would want that with a long term contract.
Because they expect him to be above average and give them like 3 WAR per year. Musgrove wants the security, so take lower AAV than he might get on a shorter deal.
The best other player they got (so far) has been Endy Rodriguez, who actually came from the Mets (it was a three team trade). He's slashing .295/.390/.533 at A+ this season, mostly as a catcher but he's also played 2B, LF and a few games at 1B.
I don’t think he would want to play for a team that doesn’t have tank top jerseys anyway.
Born in El Cajon, though I would imagine with his current earning power he's a bit closer to the beach around La Jolla; very nice digs if you can afford it.
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