Welp.

the library is being ridiculous on purpose to try to make a statute that doesn’t reach this book look bad.

Expect more media hits pretending that Florida anti-grooming and anti-bigotry in education laws affect 32-page biographies of Roberto Clemente and similarly anodyne books.

I've never understood why people want children under high school age to be exposed to these kind of controversial things.

Preferably by sawing it off and letting it float out into the Atlantic. It can then declare itself the Peoples Republic of DeSantisgrad and live happily ever.

Okay, let's assume for sake of argument that Trump outwears his welcome in the GOP and DeSantis wins the nomination. Would you like to reprise our 2016 wager? Even odds, Biden (me) vs DeSantis (you), and the usual caveat about both Biden and DeSantis having to be on the ballot come Election Day. All bets off if Biden gets replaced by another Democrat, because that gets us too far into the Unknown.

As it now stands, I'm up 1000 Washingtons from 2020 and down a pair of Clyde's dinners from 2016, so here's a chance for you (and Clapper, if he wishes) to take advantage of my blind partisan wishcasting. Easiest dinner you'll ever win.

Ted Frank's take makes sense:

I've never understood why people want children under high school age to be exposed to these kind of controversial things.

Total horseshit as a quick trip to Wikipedia would show. Why am I not surprised.

Even odds, Biden (me) vs DeSantis (you), and the usual caveat about both Biden and DeSantis having to be on the ballot come Election Day. All bets off if Biden gets replaced by another Democrat, because that gets us too far into the Unknown.

The idea that NOT allowing the drugging and amputation of perfectly physically healthy minor children makes you similar to the Nazis is batshit insanity. The best science before the recent insanity was that 90% of children with gender dysphoria self-resolve by 18 with no medical intervention. 80% of them turned out to be gay.

I'm saying it's not my place to have a say in what a family privately decides when it comes to this issue. Nor is it yours, just because you're weirded out by it.

So does this mean that you're also on? The contingencies apply for both Biden and DeSantis.

The idea that NOT allowing the drugging and amputation of perfectly physically healthy minor children makes you similar to the Nazis is batshit insanity.

Indeed, thanks for the OT-P trigger warning.

If you want to defend the policy, that's up to you.

Good to know that if the parent is aware and OK with the treatments, you think it's wrong for government to step in and try to obstruct those treatments.

Good to know that if the parent is aware and OK with the treatments, you think it's wrong for government to step in and try to obstruct those treatments.

A book about Roberto Clemente got pulled for "review." If you want to defend the policy, that's up to you.

Not only do we defend the policy, we mock your half-baked pearl clutching.

Why can't librarians be permitted to just do their jobs without interference as has mostly been the case for the last hundred years?

Also also, if RDS wins, how many folks here promise to declare themselves refugees and storm the Canadian border? Let's get a headcount.

Again, the headline is highly misleading - this is the librarians in a single county misinterpreting the law, possibly deliberately. Florida has 67 counties, hundreds of cities & towns, and countless libraries, but only Duval County (Jacksonville) is reported to be reviewing the Clemente book or similar works. Seems like any outrage should be directed there, rather than at the state.

Books are very different than movies: rating books R, and restricting access is generally a bad idea. It’s a terrible idea when you’re keeping kids from learning US history in order to protect oversensitive white people from knowing that slavery and colonization is part of our history.

Florida has 67 counties, hundreds of cities & towns, and countless libraries, but only Duval County (Jacksonville) is reported to be reviewing the Clemente book or similar works.

As for Florida (and a Georgia and Texas), they are by far the fastest growing states attracting people and talent from all over the country while the traditional blue states bleed people like crazy. Just look at the census - people have been voting with their feet for decades. It's all there in black and white. I would think a bunch of stat-minded people could easily see that.

Who's keeping kids from learning about slavery causing the civil war? Send me a link to current textbook that talks about the civil war and forgets to mention slavery

A group of Texas educators have proposed to the Texas State Board of Education that slavery should be taught as “involuntary relocation” during second grade social studies instruction, but board members have asked them to reconsider the phrasing, according to the state board’s chair.
[...]
In 2015, Texas attracted attention when it was discovered a social studies textbook approved for use in the state called African slaves who were brought to the United States, “workers”

“Young kids can grasp the concept of slavery and being kidnapped into it,” Gordon-Reed said. “The African slave trade is unlike anything that had or has happened, the numbers and distance.”
[...]
“Tell children the truth. They can handle it,” she said.

Standards previously adopted in 2010 were designed to play up the role of states’ rights and sectionalism and downplay slavery as the reason Texas entered the Civil War on the side of the Confederacy. Slavery, one board member said at the time, according to The Washington Post, was a “side issue.”
[...]
Ron Francis, a high school history teacher in Highland Park, calls the compromise wanting. “The lies they’re telling are a little smaller than the lies they used to tell,”

the library is being ridiculous on purpose to try to make a statute that doesn’t reach this book look bad.

Nope, a 16-year old's brain isn't sufficiently developed to possess the agency to give consent to treatments that may be irreversible.

I'm not demanding kids have their genitals lopped off.

Imagine being as smart as Snapper while still being as stupid about this kind of thing.

and given the lengthy tradition of the BBTF fondness for shooting the messenger, I sure as hell ain't posting it !

#ducksforcover

PITTSBURGH —

A children's book about Roberto Clemente has been removed from Florida's Duval County Schools while they review its content for young readers.

"It's a great book and a book that anyone can read, and the middle schoolers, I don't see an issue, but the younger ones absolutely, I do agree," said Roberto Clemente Jr.

Clemente Jr. said when he first heard the book about his father was being removed, he was angry, until he re-opened the book and saw the references to racism and the struggles his father went through as a Black, Puerto Rican man.

"I think that quote for a young child could be of great impact in terms of seeing color like that, and there is a consequence for me being this color if there is no separation from the beginning," said Clemente Jr.

Clemente Jr. said his father's story is important, but the lessons learned should be based on a child's age and the possible influence.

"When it comes to my children that don't see color reading a statement in a book where it says, 'I am Black, and because I am Black, this is happening to me.' For me, there is a place to have a quote being taught to a child of such a thing," said Clemente Jr. " If you want to, as a parent, but I think that just sending a child to school as a blank canvas and putting a color or planting a seed of 'we are not all the same' is something that kind of took me aback, and I sat down, and I thought about it a little bit deeper."

#48 is factually incorrect in every respect

Not sure what's so big a deal about posting it:

Because the Culture Wars must be fought on all fronts, all the time, every minute of every hour of every day. (Hell, why did we build all these barricades if we aren't gonna use them...?!)

I know, right? It would be so nice if the left would stop screaming about M&M's and drag shows and CRT and higher-education "indoctrination" and "offensive" books and Satanic panic and...

Clemente's son is a deeply incoherent thinker, or he was quoted in such a way as to make him seem so....

Who did we colonize?

Mutilating and sterilizing children makes me uncomfortable.

I was educated in public schools but had the good fortune to grow up in a super rich community so the schools were top notch.

Clemente Jr. said when he first heard the book about his father was being removed, he was angry, until he re-opened the book and saw the references to racism and the struggles his father went through as a Black, Puerto Rican man.

I know, right? It would be so nice if the left would stop screaming about M&M's and drag shows and CRT and higher-education "indoctrination" and "offensive" books and Satanic panic and...

After three or four reads, I see only two possibilities: Clemente's son is a deeply incoherent thinker, or he was quoted in such a way as to make him seem so....

"I don't see color" MAY be a good philosophy to apply in certain situations in one's everyday experience.

It is NOT gonna get you far when applied as a methodological principle for historical and social analysis.

This argument feels flimsy coming from the same party that thinks similarly aged girls are apparently old enough to be forced to carry an unwanted baby to term regardless of the circumstances surrounding that pregnancy.

Your peeps push loony ideas, then kvetch when we have the chutzpah to respond.

Like sunsetting SS and medicare?

folks like you support abortion whenever, wherever.

Of course, Biden lied because no one said SS and Medicare should be sunsetted.

Like sunsetting SS and medicare?

I was educated in public schools but had the good fortune to grow up in a super rich community so the schools were top notch.

I have some bad news for you...

It's always projection with the left. Always.

So thanks for sharing another example of leftist projection.

Rick Scott did. Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy say he did.

What regulators? Where?

The Biden administration seriously considered banning natural gas-powered stoves before it received widespread criticism for considering such a move, according to an internal memo obtained by Fox News Digital.

In the memo dated Oct. 25, 2022, Richard Trumka Jr. — whom President Biden appointed to serve on the five-person Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) — wrote to a fellow commissioner that there was sufficient evidence for the agency to move forward with a notice of proposed rulemaking (NPR) to ban gas stoves in the near future. Trumka's memo was titled, "NPR Proposing Ban on Gas Stoves (Indoor Air Quality)."

"The need for gas stove regulation has reached a boiling point," the CPSC commissioner wrote in the October memo. "CPSC has the responsibility to ban consumer products that emit hazardous substances, particularly, when those emissions harm children, under the Federal Hazardous Substances Act."

"Emerging evidence is sufficient to conclude that gas stoves in homes emit toxic gasses that cause illness and that lower-cost, safer alternatives are available," Trumka added.

Rick Scott is likely to run for president . . .

Not in 2024. Maybe never.