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Tuesday, December 13, 2022

Rosenthal: Grumbling about owners like Mets’ Steve Cohen? MLB needs more of them - The Athletic

Do you know what this offseason tells me about how teams view longterm contracts? Nothing. Until time exposes a trend, it’s a blip, an outlier. I can say one thing, Steve Cohen is every bit the owner so many other owners feared letting into their club.

Don’t get me wrong: I wish there were 30 Cohens, one for each franchise. Not likely, obviously — Cohen is one of a kind, the 38th richest man in America according to Forbes, with a real-time net worth of $17.5 billion. But in an industry mostly content with profits, Cohen is obsessed with winning. Middleton and Seidler share his obsession, which is exactly what fans should want.

This is a new breed of owner, operating under a new collective-bargaining agreement that reflects the union’s success in raising the luxury-tax thresholds and staving off harsher penalties. Cohen took over the Mets in late 2020. Seidler became the Padres’ control person not long after that. Middleton became a 48 percent shareholder in the Phillies in 2014 and their control person in 2016. With any luck, the Nationals and Angels, both currently for sale, will be bought by like-minded individuals or groups, and the turnover will continue with the Reds, A’s and Pirates, to name three clubs that need a change.

jimfurtado Posted: December 13, 2022 at 10:33 AM | 11 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. John Northey Posted: December 13, 2022 at 05:21 PM (#6109417)
Any of us over the age of 40 can remember George Steinbrenner and Peter Angelos who both blew a fortune at first and made their fan bases happy for a bit then went coocoo. Owners with massive egos and wallets are not best for baseball, they are best for writers who want stories. I like the Jays with quiet corporate ownership where we know the baseball people are in charge and have a budget to work with that adjusts as the team revenues shift.
   2. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 13, 2022 at 05:31 PM (#6109420)
Owners with massive egos and wallets are not best for baseball, they are best for writers who want stories.

I disagree. Steinbrenner got two championships in his first 5 years of ownership. He provided MLB with tons of free publicity, and made a perfect villain for fans of other things to hate. You want people to care about your sport, and oversize personalities do that.
   3. NaOH Posted: December 13, 2022 at 05:49 PM (#6109423)
I've got more respect for people who cook nice meals than those who just dine in nice restaurants.
   4. Walt Davis Posted: December 13, 2022 at 10:15 PM (#6109444)
Respect ain't got nuthin' to do with it
   5. Dolf Lucky Posted: December 14, 2022 at 06:51 AM (#6109454)
Speaking as a Reds fan, Rosenthal is correct to say that ownership turnover is needed in Cincy. I don’t know anything about Cohen other than he clearly wants to win and appears to be willing to spend a lot to pursue those goals. Sounds like heaven compared to what our guy is doing.
   6. gehrig97 Posted: December 14, 2022 at 12:49 PM (#6109499)
@2: Totally agree.

The only thing wrong with Cohen is he seems to be an affable, low-key guy. Just imagine what George could have done with Twitter! Baseball needs bluster, baseball needs characters, baseball needs heroes and villains. Cohen just seems to want to win.

So disappointing, considering he's an honest-to-goodness criminal!
   7. cardsfanboy Posted: December 14, 2022 at 01:02 PM (#6109501)
Any of us over the age of 40 can remember George Steinbrenner and Peter Angelos who both blew a fortune at first and made their fan bases happy for a bit then went coocoo. Owners with massive egos and wallets are not best for baseball, they are best for writers who want stories. I like the Jays with quiet corporate ownership where we know the baseball people are in charge and have a budget to work with that adjusts as the team revenues shift.


I'll join the others, I want an organization that is trying to win (and I agree with you on the Jays methodology) I just want as a fan, to feel that all the teams are trying to win, and making reasonable decisions or being extreme in making unreasonable expensive decisions. I do not want teams deciding that short term profit is the goal of owning a sport team. I don't need the villainy aspect that post 2 pointed out, but there is nothing wrong with that either, as mentioned it creates publicity for the sport, and there is almost no such thing as bad press.
   8. A triple short of the cycle Posted: December 14, 2022 at 07:30 PM (#6109556)
I wish the A's ownership was trying to win!
   9. John Northey Posted: December 15, 2022 at 07:27 PM (#6109657)
I get wanting the oversized personalities - I was a teen in the 80's when we had lots of those, from Steinbrenner to Schott in Cincinnati. Mix in the oversized personalities in umpires like Ron Luciano, managers like Billy Martin and you had lots of non-players who stood out. Mix in players like Reggie, the Wizard of Oz (Ozzie Smith), and others and we had in baseball what the NBA has now. Non-stop personality. Great fun, but if you are a fan of a team with a nutcase owner (the Yankees made it to the WS just once in the 80's, their first decade without a championship since the 1910's, repeated in the 2010's, and lets not get started on the insanity Cincinnati went through - tons of fun, but it was nuts).
   10. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: December 15, 2022 at 08:12 PM (#6109660)
The only thing wrong with Cohen is he seems to be an affable, low-key guy.


Well, that and he should be in prison.
   11. Dolf Lucky Posted: December 15, 2022 at 08:42 PM (#6109664)
Ask 100 Reds fans if they’d rather have Marge Schott or the current owner and 99 would choose Marge, with all her craziness taken fully into account.

The current owner is doing long term damage to the franchise.

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