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Monday, March 29, 2021

Rougned Odor won’t make opening day roster, is no longer a Texas Ranger

The Rangers on Monday fully embraced moving into a new era and letting the remnants of the past go.

Rougned Odor is no longer a Ranger.

The player who entered spring training as the player with the most remaining big-league service to the Rangers was informed he would not make the opening day roster. Because he has more than five years of major league service, Odor can’t be sent to the minor leagues without his permission. He can, in effect, force the Rangers to release him while still receiving more than $24 million guaranteed to him over the next two years.

Odor, 27, has played 858 games in a Rangers uniform and had one of the most memorable moments in team history — a TKO punch of Jose Bautista in 2016 after a dustup at second base. But he never seemed to recover from that viral moment where he was cast as a baseball tough guy. He seemed to try to live up to that reputation and his on-field performance declined.

The decline was even more sharply pronounced after he signed a six-year, $49 million contract extension with the Rangers in the spring of 2017. Since the start of that year, his WAR ranks 137th of 138 players in the majors with at least 1,500 plate appearances. In 2020, he slashed just .167/.209/.413/.623 in 38 games.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 29, 2021 at 04:33 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Paul d mobile Posted: March 29, 2021 at 04:39 PM (#6010592)
I would think that to call something a TKO punch, the punch should at least knock the recipient down.

YMMV.
   2. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: March 29, 2021 at 04:50 PM (#6010595)

Odor is owed $12.3 million in 2021 and 2022, and then the Rangers had a $13.5 million team option with a $3 million buyout in 2023. So he basically gets $27.6 million from the Rangers, plus whatever any other team is willing to pay him?
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 29, 2021 at 04:52 PM (#6010596)
A new team will pay him just the league min, and what the Rangers pay him will deduct that amount. So no matter what, he will get $27.6 million.
   4. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: March 29, 2021 at 05:05 PM (#6010598)

Never mind.
   5. . Posted: March 29, 2021 at 06:45 PM (#6010609)
one of the most memorable moments in team history — a TKO punch of Jose Bautista in 2016 after a dustup at second base.


What a dumbass thing to write.
   6. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: March 29, 2021 at 07:15 PM (#6010612)
What a dumbass thing to write.

Well, it was a memorable moment, much like Robin Ventura's Texas Noogie at the hands of Nolan Ryan.
   7. BDC Posted: March 29, 2021 at 07:22 PM (#6010613)
punch of Jose Bautista in 2016 after a dustup at second base. But he never seemed to recover from that viral moment where he was cast as a baseball tough guy. He seemed to try to live up to that reputation and his on-field performance declined


This is Evan Grant writing, longtime Rangers beat writer, so I trust it as a description of Odor's psychological or social struggles, or at least how they got perceived in the fishbowl of the club/press relationship. In terms of Odor's play, it doesn't track. Odor had a good season in 2016 (the punch came early in the year) and went on to have his best season in 2018, when he visibly worked a lot on his defense and on trying to improve his initially miserable strikezone judgment. I think he got caught between the imperative to launch-angle everything and hit 30 HR a year, which led to some huge strikeout and low OBP numbers; or to concentrate more on working the count and making contact. He never put it all together. They can't keep him if he bats .167 (as he did in the shortened 2020) even if he does hit 30 HR, and they don't want to keep him if he hits 10-15 HR a year and bats .250 because that's just not very good in 2020s baseball. He's not that good a fielder or baserunner.

I believe that the Rangers now have no players left from their last playoff roster in 2016.
   8. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 29, 2021 at 07:38 PM (#6010615)
I release an Odor several times a day, but no one writes about it.
   9. Walt Davis Posted: March 29, 2021 at 08:01 PM (#6010617)
He was an interesting prospect in those early days. The K-rate really wasn't that bad (17-21%) and, for a 2B, the ISO was excellent but he refused to walk. But that 2016 line of 271/296/502 ... all he needs to do is learn how to take a walk. And he did in 2018-19 with league-average BB rates with 2018 being a very solid year despite the drop in power -- at least here now was a 2B putting up a league-average OPS and good defense. But in 2020 -- K rate through the roof, BABIP through the floor, but a nice big ISO again but back to atrocious overall. 2020 was just a more extreme version of 2019.

Anyway, he's been a much better player than I realized ... I thought he'd been 2017 over and over but 2018 was a solid player. That makes him an intriguing free pick-up if there's a team out there that thinks they can fix him. Obviously you can say this about pretty much any player but you take his best BABIP, his best walk rates, his best power, his best defense ... or really any 2-3 of those things while keeping his Ks under control and you've got a guy at least worth a roster spot, even a platoon starter. But ya gotta fix him which maybe can't be done ... maybe worth half a mill to give it a go. But I suspect he's done.
   10. Traderdave Posted: March 30, 2021 at 10:40 AM (#6010678)
I glanced at his BB-Ref page just to refresh memory of his stats. Seeing his nicknames of "Stink" and "Stinky" listed in print was strangely gratifying.
   11. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: March 30, 2021 at 01:24 PM (#6010706)
I would think that to call something a TKO punch, the punch should at least knock the recipient down.
I think it works if you think of Beltre as the referee stepping in to declare it over.
   12. flournoy Posted: March 30, 2021 at 08:56 PM (#6010794)
a TKO punch


Is this even a phrase that someone who knows boxing would use? As someone totally unfamiliar with boxing, it sounds like something your grandma would say.
   13. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: March 30, 2021 at 11:30 PM (#6010808)
Proof positive that age v. competition level isn't a guarantee of anything.
   14. Random Transaction Generator Posted: March 31, 2021 at 09:01 AM (#6010821)
One of my favourite baseball-related animated gifs is this one. It was created after the Odor/Baustista incident (but worked even before that moment).

Blue Jays fans will always be happy to remind anyone that it was Odor who made the ill-advised (and bad) throw in Game 3 of the 2016 ALDS that let Donaldson score on the error for the walk-off win to knock the Rangers out of the playoffs.
   15. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 31, 2021 at 09:18 AM (#6010823)
Proof positive that age v. competition level isn't a guarantee of anything.

His team mate Nomar Mazara is an even better example. I think he was more hyped than Odor, and has produced much less. Being mediocre in MLB at age 20-21 guarantees nothing.
   16. . Posted: March 31, 2021 at 09:29 AM (#6010825)
Is this even a phrase that someone who knows boxing would use?


That's actually a very good point. There are virtually no one-punch TKOs in boxing and the term "TKO punch" doesn't even make a lot of sense sports-linguistically.

Plus the idea that a single punch in a fight is "one of the most memorable moments in franchise history" is something that could only be written (or even thought) in the internet trash-talk troll-for-clicks era. It's juvenile and of course, entirely empirically false. The fact that whatever nesting place it has in memory is because it was "getting revenge" for a dumbass bat flip -- itself purely a product of the internet age --renders it even more juvenile and trollish. The entire media economy, and not just in sports, has been reduced to this bullshit. America has been reduced to WWE.

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