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Monday, January 27, 2020

Ryan Braun knows ‘it’s possible’ this is his final year with Brewers, and perhaps as player

Yes, it has crossed Ryan Braun’s mind that this might be his last year with the Milwaukee Brewers, and possibly as a major-league player as well.

During a media session Sunday at the “Brewers On Deck” fan festival at the Wisconsin Center, Braun talked about having a “sense of urgency” entering the 2020 season, which is the last remaining guaranteed year on his contract.

“I don’t take for granted the fact this could be my last year playing baseball,” Braun said. “Obviously, there’s a sense of urgency every year, but for me, knowing this could be my last chance ever, it’s something that certainly adds to that sense of urgency.

“I feel good about the fact that we put a team together that should be competitive again. We went to the postseason the last two years. The team that we lost to ended up winning the whole thing. It’s just about finding a way to get into the postseason and hopefully get hot at the right time. There’s an increased sense of urgency for me, with where I’m at in my career.”

 

 

QLE Posted: January 27, 2020 at 12:47 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. bbmck Posted: January 27, 2020 at 06:16 PM (#5919748)
102 players debuted since 1951 and have 20+ position player WAR at Age 25-28, Ryan Braun is T19th with 26.5 with end points specifically picked for his peak. If 2020 is Braun and Dustin Pedroia's final season, fewest seasons at Age 29+ for the group:

4: Jesse Barfield, Thurman Munson
5: Chuck Knoblauch, Roger Maris, Rico Petrocelli
6: Shawn Green, Don Mattingly, Ron Santo
7: Johnny Bench, Bobby Bonds, Darin Erstad, Andruw Jones, Nomar Garciaparra, Joe Mauer, Kirby Puckett, Roy White, Jim Wynn
8: Ryan Braun, Will Clark, Jim Fregosi, Vladimir Guerrero, Keith Hernandez, Mickey Mantle, Eddie Mathews, Dustin Pedroia, Mark Teixeira
   2. "RMc", the superbatsman Posted: January 27, 2020 at 09:06 PM (#5919775)
I'd say it's even money Braun breaks 5% on his first HOF ballot.
   3. cookiedabookie Posted: January 27, 2020 at 09:42 PM (#5919782)
No way he gets 5%
   4. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: January 27, 2020 at 10:16 PM (#5919786)
I think if his roids case hadn't been so high-profile, he'd get a fair amount of attention at Hall time, given the clean-cut image he sported before that. As it is? He's not nearly as good as the guys who are being kept out. He'll probably come and go in a year or two.
   5. Jaack Posted: January 27, 2020 at 10:33 PM (#5919789)
I don't think Braun is too dissimilar from Jim Rice. In a slightly different universe he probably could get 10-15% of the vote - one MVP with another runner up, single team player. Below average defense, but defense doesn't really get punished unless you are outright bad.

But the PEDs make him a non-starter. The traditionally oriented voters who would like his type of player aren't going to go for a guy with a PED suspension. I think he'll get 5-10 votes at best.
   6. The Duke Posted: January 27, 2020 at 10:41 PM (#5919792)
What is Hall going to do with the Vets ballot when all these PED guys get tossed from the writers ballot? Are they just going to put them up every two years and get voted down again? It would seem you need to maybe just add bonds and Clemens and not put the rest on until one of them goes through, if ever. I’d you don’t do that the ballot will be clogged and no one else will even be on the short list.
   7. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 27, 2020 at 10:59 PM (#5919793)
No way he gets 5%
Damn anti-Semitic HOF voters.
   8. bbmck Posted: January 27, 2020 at 11:09 PM (#5919797)
74 players debuting on the ballot from 1988 Willie Stargell and Mark Belanger to 2020 Bobby Abreu and Jason Giambi with 40-60 position player WAR, first ballot inductee or made 2nd ballot:

1988 - Willie Stargell 82.4%
1991 - Rusty Staub 6.3%
1992 - Tony Perez 50%, George Foster 5.6%
1994 - Dave Concepcion 6.8%, (Ted Simmons 3.7%)
1995 - Jim Rice 29.8%

1996 - Fred Lynn 5.5%
1997 - Dave Parker 17.5%
1999 - Dale Murphy 19.3%
2001 - Kirby Puckett 82.1%, Don Mattingly 28.2%
2004 - only year in this span with no such debut candidates

2006 - Albert Belle 7.7%
2010 - Fred McGriff 21.5%
2012 - Bernie Williams 9.6%
2013 - Mike Piazza 57.8%, Sammy Sosa 12.5%
2014 - Jeff Kent 15.2%

2015 - Nomar Garciaparra 5.5%
2017 - Vladimir Guerrero 71.7%
2018 - Omar Vizquel 37%
2020 - Bobby Abreu 5.5%

53 players one and done with one of those about to be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

2021 - Torii Hunter
2022 - David Ortiz, Jimmy Rollins, Mark Teixeira
2023 - none
2024 - Joe Mauer, David Wright, Adrian Gonzalez, Matt Holliday
2025 - Ichiro Suzuki, Troy Tulowitzki, ?Curtis Granderson?, ?Ben Zobrist?
2026 possibles - Yadier Molina, Dustin Pedroia, Ryan Braun, Brett Gardner, Ian Kinsler

Granderson and Zobrist are free agents, Pedroia the only player in the 2026 line with a guaranteed contract for 2021.
   9. Jaack Posted: January 27, 2020 at 11:50 PM (#5919804)
What is Hall going to do with the Vets ballot when all these PED guys get tossed from the writers ballot? Are they just going to put them up every two years and get voted down again? It would seem you need to maybe just add bonds and Clemens and not put the rest on until one of them goes through, if ever. I’d you don’t do that the ballot will be clogged and no one else will even be on the short list.


It'll probably depend on how well they do on the first one. If they get 6-7 votes, they'll stay on for a while. If they get fewer than 3, they get shuffled off for a decade.
   10. Kiko Sakata Posted: January 28, 2020 at 12:38 AM (#5919811)
It'll probably depend on how well they do on the first one. If they get 6-7 votes, they'll stay on for a while. If they get fewer than 3, they get shuffled off for a decade.


Mark McGwire appeared on a Veterans' Committee ballot back in 2017. Schuerholtz and Selig were elected from that ballot. All five players on the ballot got less than five votes (they don't announce exact vote totals for those below 5). The same era was re-considered in 2019 - that was the committee that elected Harold Baines and Lee Smith. Of the eight people who were on the 2017 ballot and not elected, seven of them were also on the 2019 ballot. The only exception was Mark McGwire. I suspect that says something about the HOF's eagerness to elect steroid users. In other words, I don't think it's a given that Bonds and Clemens will even appear on a Veterans' Committee ballot after they fall off the writers' ballot, at least not right away. But we'll see.
   11. Howie Menckel Posted: January 28, 2020 at 01:30 AM (#5919813)
I've never been emotionally invested in the Bonds-Clemens hoopla. but I guess I just figured that if they each get elected in their final try in 2021, then they "paid their dues" and we are done with the whole thing.

that would open the door for McGwire on the Vet Committee, and consideration of whether to make Ortiz, A-Rod, etc wait the 10 years or not.

as much agita as was spent on Jack Morris, he finally got in - and now he is making annual progress toward "long-forgotten."

the opposite of love is not hate - but indifference.
   12. The Yankee Clapper Posted: January 28, 2020 at 01:52 AM (#5919815)
Mark McGwire appeared on a Veterans' Committee ballot back in 2017. Schuerholtz and Selig were elected from that ballot. . . . Of the eight people who were on the 2017 ballot and not elected, seven of them were also on the 2019 ballot. The only exception was Mark McGwire. I suspect that says something about the HOF's eagerness to elect steroid users.
Bud Selig was found to have illegally colluded against the players on 3 different occasions, resulting in hundreds of millions in penalties, and, of course he did nothing about steroids when the power surge was bringing in more revenue for MLB. How in the world the players can be the only ones faulted while the likes of Bud Selig are in the Hall escapes me. In any event, considerations of character that allow Leo Durocher in should keep almost no one out.

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