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Wednesday, June 29, 2016

SABR 46 Convention in Miami

Pregame ballpark session/tour: SABR 46 attendees will have a special opportunity to visit Marlins Park for an exclusive pregame ballpark session with Miami Marlins executives and players, including Barry Bonds, Don Mattingly, Andre Dawson, Tony Perez, and ESPN’s Eduardo Perez. Before the Marlins 7:10 p.m. game against the St. Louis Cardinals on Friday, July 29, a special SABR 46 panel discussion will take place at Marlins Park followed by a ballpark tour for convention attendees.

This is going to be one of the best conventions yet.  Much of the change of the conventions to focus on panels, as well as research presentations, has been incredibly well received and has been some of the most entertaining aspects of the conventions of late.  The speakers SABR has been nothing short of incredible.

Foghorn Leghorn Posted: June 29, 2016 at 12:18 PM | 50 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Kiko Sakata Posted: June 25, 2016 at 09:49 PM (#5252215)
Last year was the first convention I attended any part of it, since it was in my hometown of Chicago. This year will be the first out-of-town convention that I'll be attending. I'm really looking forward to it.
   2. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 26, 2016 at 01:23 AM (#5252281)
I'm still trying to decide if I can go or not. The Bonds thing is a real strong pull for me.
   3. Bote Man Posted: June 26, 2016 at 04:36 AM (#5252284)
Bring lots of ice.
   4. Kiko Sakata Posted: June 26, 2016 at 03:54 PM (#5252417)
Bring lots of ice.


Visiting Miami at the end of July wouldn't have been my first choice. I doubt I'll leave the hotel except for the trip to the ballpark.
   5. "RMc", the superbatsman Posted: June 26, 2016 at 08:54 PM (#5252644)
Last year was the first convention I attended any part of it, since it was in my hometown of Chicago.

The only SABR convention I've ever been to was in 1986, in...Chicago. Met Bill James, too. (Pro tip: Never meet your heroes.)
   6. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: June 28, 2016 at 06:31 PM (#5254310)
The convention is in the Downtown Hyatt Regency - it has a full convention center. Uber makes everything easy - This past spring it cost about $7 to get to the stadium by Uber.

The Miami River runs right outside a nice patio, there's a people mover across the street that will take you 6 blocks to a promenade with an Irish Pub. It's a really great location.

   7. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: June 28, 2016 at 10:19 PM (#5254431)
Barry Bonds for goodness sake
   8. Lassus Posted: June 29, 2016 at 08:17 AM (#5254571)
Miami is generally awesome, and underrated as a cultural center as well. Great ballet, great symphony (New World, conducted by Tilson Thomas), great museums, great architecture. Probably cheap as #### to fly into in July, maybe THIS year I'll finally get to one of these.
   9. Misirlou gave her his Vincent to ride Posted: June 29, 2016 at 08:30 AM (#5254575)
Visiting Miami at the end of July wouldn't have been my first choice. I doubt I'll leave the hotel except for the trip to the ballpark.


The day I left Chicago for the move to south Florida, it was 106. The average summer day here is probably worse than the average summer day there, but the worst here is far better than the worst there.
   10. Bote Man Posted: June 29, 2016 at 10:47 AM (#5254699)
Miami is generally awesome, and underrated as a cultural center as well.

You ought to see the culture strolling along Ocean Drive in the daytime!

But seriously, folks, find the most tiny, hole-in-the-wall Cuban eatery and get yourself a genuine midnight sandwich while you're down here. And if you're really jonesing for authentic regional cuisine you should make it up to the Dairy Belle in Dania Beach for some poutine. I know Jonah Keri aint gonna miss it.
   11. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: June 29, 2016 at 11:22 AM (#5254758)
Misirlou! Are you coming up for the event?
   12. Steve Treder Posted: June 29, 2016 at 12:29 PM (#5254857)
July in Miami isn't quite April in Paris, but it sure as hell won't be as bad as Houston.
   13. Mark Armour Posted: June 29, 2016 at 12:35 PM (#5254861)
My memories of Houston weather are not that bad. News flash: the entire country is hot in July. Boston was brutal, Philadelphia was brutal. Chicago was great last year, but Chicago in July is a risk.

I expect I will walk around finding food a few times in Miami, and it will be hot, and I will find food and eat it and it will all soon be forgotten.

The US of A is an interesting place, and worth wandering around to see.
   14. Mark Armour Posted: June 29, 2016 at 12:42 PM (#5254867)
More to the point of the thread, I am very much looking forward to going to this event. For those of you on the fence, I urge you to give it a try. I have been to a lot of these, and I can't say enough about the program of events that keeps getting better. Barry Bonds, yes, but also Andre Dawson, Tony Perez, several other celebrity panels.

I am really looking forward to this.
   15. Steve Treder Posted: June 29, 2016 at 12:49 PM (#5254875)
Miami truly is a fun town. I've been there probably about five times, and there's always extremely interesting food and music, and the general vibe is very cool.
   16. Mark Armour Posted: June 29, 2016 at 01:00 PM (#5254880)
Other than a couple of drive-bys (including a game at the old stadium) I have not really experienced Miami. I love a place with its own vibe, and our hotel is apparently well situated for it.
   17. Misirlou gave her his Vincent to ride Posted: June 29, 2016 at 01:15 PM (#5254888)
Misirlou! Are you coming up for the event?


No. I would have, but they couldn't have picked a worse date. Jul 27 and 28 are the dates of the 2 day sport lobster season. I have lots of guests coming into town for that, like I usually do. I might come up for the game, depending on when my guests leave.
   18. Steve Treder Posted: June 29, 2016 at 01:23 PM (#5254900)
I remember renting a car at the Miami airport one time, and starting it up and checking the stations on the radio, and not encountering a word of anything but Espanol until about the seventh station. Increible!
   19. Bote Man Posted: June 29, 2016 at 01:58 PM (#5254980)
The hotel is situated where the Downtown Connector ramp dumps all inbound I-95 traffic into the maze of one-way streets. If you are driving to or from the hotel, expect gridlock 24/7 pretty much.

For a real treat while walking around downtown, try your hand at dominoes against some of those old Cuban guys!
   20. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: June 29, 2016 at 02:04 PM (#5254988)
July in Miami isn't quite April in Paris, but it sure as hell won't be as bad as Houston.

Don't be too sure. Actually, my memory was that the weather at the game wasn't bad at all in Houston. It could easily be worse in Miami.
   21. Misirlou gave her his Vincent to ride Posted: June 29, 2016 at 02:11 PM (#5254998)
Actually, my memory was that the weather at the game wasn't bad at all in Houston. It could easily be worse in Miami.


Both ballparks are indoors.
   22. Steve Treder Posted: June 29, 2016 at 02:34 PM (#5255012)
Don't be too sure. Actually, my memory was that the weather at the game wasn't bad at all in Houston. It could easily be worse in Miami.


Yes, you're right, the weather in Houston wasn't as ghastly as it could have been. The problem was that it was, you know, Houston.

Miami, even if the weather is dreadful, will be lots of fun.
   23. Mark Armour Posted: June 29, 2016 at 02:53 PM (#5255026)
I had never been to Houston before and feel less than certain about the city based on the four days in the hotel. But there was no "culture" anywhere around us -- you could have told me I was in Columbus and I would have nodded and asked for another drink.

Last year the experience of being very much IN CHICAGO was palpable.
   24. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: June 29, 2016 at 03:18 PM (#5255041)
The problem was that it was, you know, Houston.


I hear it's too close to New Orleans...
   25. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: June 29, 2016 at 04:23 PM (#5255111)
Uber had no real issue in getting me to the hotel from the airport - I think it was $12.
   26. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: June 29, 2016 at 04:24 PM (#5255112)
misirlou, what time should I be there on Thursday for teh lobster bake?
   27. Misirlou gave her his Vincent to ride Posted: June 29, 2016 at 04:59 PM (#5255142)
misirlou, what time should I be there on Thursday for teh lobster bake?


Remember that place in Key Largo we met that one time for lunch? We will probably bring them there, around 6:30 : )
   28. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: June 29, 2016 at 07:10 PM (#5255243)
Bingo
   29. Bote Man Posted: June 29, 2016 at 08:19 PM (#5255280)
Key Largo?! Nobody goes there any more, it's too crowded.
   30. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: June 29, 2016 at 08:53 PM (#5255295)
Both ballparks are indoors.

Houston is a retractable dome. The roof was open for the SABR game.
   31. Bote Man Posted: June 29, 2016 at 08:58 PM (#5255298)
Sadly, the only time when the Marlins open their roof is April and possibly May. Otherwise it's sealed shut during games. They don't want a repeat of that game that first year when a storm rolled up on them and caused a rain delay before the roof could be closed.
   32. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: June 29, 2016 at 09:38 PM (#5255311)
I will be arriving on Tuesday afternoon - in theory I can go to 6 games.... ANyone else around that is interested in ballgames - other than the Friday SABR game?
   33. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: June 29, 2016 at 11:31 PM (#5255352)
I might come up for the game, depending on when my guests leave.

Please do so if you can. That would be cool.
   34. Hans Van Slooten Posted: July 07, 2016 at 09:30 AM (#5260255)
I'll be rolling in around 3 PM on Tuesday.
   35. Mark Armour Posted: July 19, 2016 at 01:50 AM (#5267373)
I am packing an unopened box of 1988 Topps wax packs. Time to open them.

   36. Sean Forman Posted: July 20, 2016 at 07:42 AM (#5268058)
I am packing an unopened box of 1988 Topps wax packs. Time to open them.


Hero
   37. Bote Man Posted: July 21, 2016 at 01:37 PM (#5269069)
Florida Keys Sheriff @mcsonews
Next week is the two day sport lobster season. Read more about it and see a detailed brochure at http://floridakeyssheriff.blogspot.com/2016/07/two-day-sport-lobster-season-is-next.html
   38. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: July 25, 2016 at 03:27 PM (#5271402)
So now I have to bring an unopened box of 1987s?
   39. Fred Garvin is dead to Mug Posted: July 25, 2016 at 04:25 PM (#5271473)
My memories of Houston weather are not that bad. News flash: the entire country is hot in July. Boston was brutal, Philadelphia was brutal. Chicago was great last year, but Chicago in July is a risk.

My oroblem with Houston wasn't the weather; it was that the hotel was within walking distance of absolutely nothing good.
   40. Neal Traven Posted: July 25, 2016 at 08:31 PM (#5271665)
My oroblem with Houston wasn't the weather; it was that the hotel was within walking distance of absolutely nothing good.

Word.

It was rather reminiscent of the location of the last Florida convention. I know I'm misremembering, but it seemed like the hotel was inside of a highway clover-leaf.

Being in downtown Miami (hell, downtown anywhere) must be better than a highway in West Palm or a bunch of shopping malls in Houston.

PS. re: the ballgame in Houston -- from what I heard, it was the first-ever open-roof game in August at Minute Maid Park.

   41. Mike Webber Posted: July 25, 2016 at 11:17 PM (#5271759)
I was joking this weekend with friends that Ichiro was waiting until the SABR convention got to town to get to 3,000 hits. But now it's starting to look like a real possibility. I was sure the Wednesday game which starts a little before my plane is scheduled to land was the day - but now I'm really hoping for the SABR game. Eichoff and Elfin - both RHP - Tuesday and Wednesday. Wacha and Leake Thur and Fri. Saturday is TBA but it's Carlos Martinez/Mike Mayers spot in the rotation.

This could be up there with the Jose Jimenez no-hitter in great SABR convention games.

Bio Project book idea - the games of the SABR convention. :)
   42. Neal Traven Posted: July 26, 2016 at 09:25 PM (#5272605)
Bio Project book idea - the games of the SABR convention. :)


Pitch it to Bill Nowlin. He'll get it published in about 10 days. :-)

6/30/2006 in Seattle -- time of game 1:52, a "night" game that ended about 15 minutes before sundown. Josh Fogg beat Jamie Moyer, 2-0. The same 20 people played the whole game ... I don't think there was even a mound visit. Mariners had 2 singles and a walk, and every one of them was erased in a GIDP. 0 Mariners left on base.
   43. Mike Webber Posted: July 27, 2016 at 08:00 AM (#5272751)
Ichiro had one hit last night, 3 to go. Day game after a night game today, maybe he only pinch hits? Come on Ichiro! you could wait until the SABR game if you want to.
   44. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: July 27, 2016 at 10:22 AM (#5272814)
6/30/2006 in Seattle -- time of game 1:52, a "night" game that ended about 15 minutes before sundown. Josh Fogg beat Jamie Moyer, 2-0. The same 20 people played the whole game ... I don't think there was even a mound visit. Mariners had 2 singles and a walk, and every one of them was erased in a GIDP. 0 Mariners left on base.

One of the few games of the 21st century where neither team threw 100 pitches.

The winning pitcher faced just 27 batters, IIRC.

Today's also the anniversary of the St. Louis game, with the massive rain & Tony LaRussa's odd late-inning defensive replacements.

And in Cincinnati, Jim Edmonds had that amazing homer-robbing catch.
   45. 185/456(GGC) Posted: July 27, 2016 at 12:38 PM (#5273014)
I ran out of time and money long ago and can no longer make it to these. What events at SABR catch peoples' eye? When I looked at the schedule one thing that caught mine was a poster presentation on Herb Score.

Out of the four national conferences I've been to, I think my favorite presentations were by Tony Giacalone, Chris Jaffe, and some non-Primate who did a presentation on Charels Ives's music and its connection to baseball. Honorable mention goes to a presentation I caught on Tom Cheney's huge strikeout game in extra innings. The player panels don't interest me that much.

At the locals, I don't recall any great presentations at the moment. Mostly those consist of auther's trying to sell a book or old players. The best might have been one I saw in Springfield, Mass where some young fellow presented an oral bio of Vic Raschi.

There was a poster that I liked. I think it was at the Saint Louis annual or Cleveland one. It was by some professor and had a mathematical title. It was something like The Heteroskedasicity of Players and showed which players stat lines stood out against their peers. Examples were Babe Ruth, who practically out homered the rest of the league and Maury Wills who stole more bases than some teams in 1962. I remeber that Arod, although still a great hitter back then had a statline that fit in very well with the era.
   46. Bote Man Posted: July 27, 2016 at 05:02 PM (#5273363)
Ichiro had one hit last night

One hit?! That's all he had, one godd@mned hit??!!

But seriously folks, be careful out there diving for lobster. It's not worth dying for.
   47. Sean Forman Posted: July 28, 2016 at 03:06 PM (#5274075)
2017 Convention is set to be in NYC assuming the Mets and/or Yankees are in NYC weekend of July 2nd.
   48. McCoy Posted: July 28, 2016 at 03:21 PM (#5274092)
Oh cool and drats! If I was still going to be living in DC next year it might very well have been the year I went to the convention. But now it looks like I'll be in Atlanta. I move for Atlanta!
   49. AndrewJ Posted: July 28, 2016 at 05:32 PM (#5274210)
I was at the 1991 SABR convention at the Hotel Pennsylvania in NYC (I've been to four conventions overall) and I'm looking forward to next year!
   50. Bote Man Posted: July 29, 2016 at 01:00 PM (#5274688)
Miami Marlins @Marlins
OFFICIAL: Ichiro is scheduled to start tonight, two hits from 3,000.

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