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Wednesday, April 07, 2021

San Diego Padres star Fernando Tatis Jr. won’t need surgery for shoulder injury

San Diego Padres star shortstop Fernando Tatis Jr. has been placed on the 10-day injured list but will not need surgery after the latest injury to his troublesome left shoulder, general manager A.J. Preller said Tuesday.

Tatis suffered the injury on a hard swing Monday and left San Diego’s 3-2 loss to the San Francisco Giants. The Padres on Monday said Tatis had suffered a shoulder subluxation, which is a partial dislocation of the joint.

Preller said Tuesday that further exams showed a slight labrum tear consistent with a subluxation. He said the injury is “nonsurgical.”

The Padres hope Tatis can return as quickly as 10 days. Preller said the shortstop has full range of motion and that he wanted to be in the lineup Tuesday.

“In general for us, I think it’s just being safe, giving the left shoulder inflammation and some of the instability [a] chance to calm down,” Preller said.

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   1. JJ1986 Posted: April 07, 2021 at 09:47 AM (#6012196)
I don't like to be a downer, but this sounds like the kind of thing he struggles with all season, then he has surgery in November and misses some of next year too.
   2. Tin Angel Posted: April 07, 2021 at 10:13 AM (#6012198)
#1 - That's kind of a downer.
   3. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: April 07, 2021 at 10:18 AM (#6012199)
I'm thinking the long-term prognosis isn't all that great either if the "latest injury" to his shoulder happens on a hard swing instead of running into something or someone.
   4. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: April 07, 2021 at 10:38 AM (#6012203)
I was thinking the same thing as Pat. 21 year old with a back problem and what amounts to a non-contact shoulder injury is not great.
   5. bunyon Posted: April 07, 2021 at 10:52 AM (#6012207)
Are we sure he's actually Tatis Jr? Because I could totally see a back problem and injuring a shoulder on a swing at age 46. Maybe the old man is just trying to cop another pay day.
   6. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 07, 2021 at 11:29 AM (#6012212)
I'm thinking the long-term prognosis isn't all that great either if the "latest injury" to his shoulder happens on a hard swing instead of running into something or someone.

In fairness it was a ludicrous, cartoonish, over-swing. He should be taught not to do that.
   7. pikepredator Posted: April 07, 2021 at 11:38 AM (#6012217)
I hate to pile on but I can't read that "will not need surgery" sentence without adding "yet". If he has some sort of structural weakness there, hopefully it can be strengthened. Baseball needs exciting young players like him.
   8. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: April 07, 2021 at 12:00 PM (#6012219)
man, this sucks.
   9. Froot Loops Posted: April 07, 2021 at 12:12 PM (#6012220)
That James Shields trade is looking better and better for the White Sox.
   10. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 07, 2021 at 05:49 PM (#6012291)
I don't like to be a downer, but this sounds like the kind of thing he struggles with all season, then he has surgery in November and misses some of next year too.
Tatis also had a problem after a throw during spring training. If he’s at risk from throwing & swinging the bat, it’s hard to see how he makes it through the season, although it’s probably worth the effort to try. Anyone stay in a Holiday Inn lately and know how effective surgery is and what the recuperation period would be?
   11. Walt Davis Posted: April 07, 2021 at 05:51 PM (#6012293)
With that new contract, you'd think he'd spring for a shoulder deluxation.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: April 07, 2021 at 05:58 PM (#6012294)
On the plus side, it's his left shoulder so, assuming it can be dealt with, it doesn't necessarily force a move off SS. Still I have to wonder how long before a move to LF or 1B (or DH). That will be OK if he keeps hitting to a 150 OPS+ but decidely less valuable if he settles in around 120. At least I'm smart enough to agree with a 14/$340 M only on the internet and when it's not my money at stake.
   13. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: April 08, 2021 at 08:15 AM (#6012348)
That James Shields trade is looking better and better for the White Sox.


I have to admit that I did not know Tatis Jr had been part of a trade for James Shields in 2016. Shields was pretty obviously done by the time Chicago traded for him, and I remember him getting sent to the White Sox, and being like, "Well, they'll take a flier and see if there's anything left there".

From the time of that trade on, Shields went 16-35 with an ERA of 5.31. Even with SD paying a chunk of his remaining contract, the White Sox still paid almost $30 million for that performance...and they ended up trading Tatis? That is Bagwell bad, except at least Larry Andersen pitched well for Boston and did what he was acquired to do - strengthen the bullpen and help get them to the playoffs.
   14. Walt Davis Posted: April 09, 2021 at 01:26 AM (#6012555)
In their "defense", Tatis wasn't even 18 at the time of the trade, hadn't had a pro PA yet. Plus this from Baseball America in real time: The White Sox signed Tatis as an international free agent out of the Dominican Republic last July 2 for $700,000. Though a shortstop currently, the 6-foot-1, 175-pounder is expected to transition to third base or the outfield as he grows, particularly to take advantage of his strong throwing arm, which is largely considered his best tool. The son of 11-year major league veteran Fernando Tatis, the younger Tatis has not seen any game action yet in his young career. BA did not rank him as one of the top 30 international prospects in 2015 or one of the White Sox top 30 prospects before this season. Tatis is the third Latin American shortstop age 20 or younger the Padres have acquired in as many years, following Jose Rondon (in 2014) and Javier Guerra (in 2015).

Some of the other sources I found seemed a bit more optimistic about Tatis's chances but none of them were remotely close to calling it a crazy trade.

Still, per that same article, after what became his last start for the Padres ... One day after the outing, Padres chairman Ron Fowler publicly blasted Shields in a radio interview, telling XPRS 1090-AM in San Diego “To have a starter like Shields perform as poorly as he did (Tuesday) is an embarrassment to the team, an embarrassment to him," Fowler said.

When the team owner/chairman says that, your days are numbered ... and the White Sox should have known that.

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   15. bartap74 Posted: April 09, 2021 at 08:10 PM (#6012630)
There might be an argument against giving a player a $300M+ contract before he's played a full season in the majors, especially when that player has a known injury history.
   16. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 09, 2021 at 09:31 PM (#6012636)
#15 yes, especially when you still have him under team control for 4 years.

I didn’t think it was a crazy deal, but I am on record as having said I would have preferred to wait a couple of years and risk having to give Tatis a bigger contract than give him such a large contract so early.
   17. Lassus Posted: April 09, 2021 at 10:04 PM (#6012638)
I hate to pile on but I can't read that "will not need surgery" sentence without adding "yet".

I more read it as "decided not to have surgery".
   18. cardsfanboy Posted: April 10, 2021 at 01:42 PM (#6012687)
I'm never going to be a fan of signing players under full control to long term contracts, you sign them in arbitration years.
   19. AstrosOldTimer Posted: April 14, 2021 at 05:11 PM (#6013433)
Even if Tatis comes back fine after this, that $300M deal was always a terrible idea. It's likea Sword of Damocles hanging over the Padres year after year.
   20. AstrosOldTimer Posted: April 14, 2021 at 05:29 PM (#6013441)
"That is Bagwell bad, except at least Larry Andersen pitched well for Boston and did what he was acquired to do - strengthen the bullpen and help get them to the playoffs."

This not "Bagwell bad" until Tatis puts up a 213 OPS season and/or wins an MVP. That's when the Andersen trade became one for the history books.
   21. sunday silence (again) Posted: April 14, 2021 at 06:23 PM (#6013453)
Still I have to wonder how long before a move to LF or 1B (or DH).


Im sure you have reasons for saying this, Walt. Can you elaborate? He's a very young player who seems to be able to play SS decently. Dont we expect those types to get a bit better at playing the position? At least in the next few years. Or do you think they should move him to decrease his chance for injury?

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