Brutal. If the Red Sox aren't getting a prospect and DFAing Hosmer, at least I'm not overpaying for NESN360 AND watching games.

More Padres games will be viewed.

Surely Pham and/or Martinez won't be on the roster at close of business today...?

Someone please remind me again why the Sox HAD TO trade Mookie Betts, and how they just don't have the money to get X to stay?

I really dislike Pham, and I really dislike Hosmer. #### me, what a shitty couple of days.

I wonder how significant that significant portion is. Hosmer's having a solid season, 112 OPS+, 0 WAA. He was pretty much exactly a 1 WAR playing in SD with 3.9 WAR, -3.9 WAA. Dalbec of course has been terrible so Hosmer is a pretty substantial short-term upgrade. He might also be a reasonable placeholder for part of next year if Casas isn't ready. Then you can DFA him or flip him and the SD money to the Nats or wherever although he might stick around if they haven't found a real replacement for JDM. But for sure, if Boston is paying any substantial bit of this money then they need something else in the deal.

Why is anyone surprised/befuddled by the Hosmer acquisition? Pham and Hosmer cost very little, and have nothing to do with possible extensions (past and future).

Surely Pham and/or Martinez won't be on the roster at close of business today...?

I assume the opposite.

I WANT THE REST OF THE TRADE INFO NOW!

Hosmer's having a solid season, 112 OPS+, 0 WAA.

Fangraphs doesn't like him as much. 107 WRC+, 0.4 WAR. Still a lot better than the Red Sox current 1B situation. :)

Hosmer actually knows how to play first base (4 Gold Gloves), so that's an enormous upgrade on that front.

but OPS by month:
April 1.054
May .654
June .567
July .704

he's 108 OPS+ career, so that's about what you get.

Then you can DFA him or flip him and the SD money to the Nats or wherever although he might stick around if they haven't found a real replacement for JDM.

Probably not the Nationals, since San Diego substituted Luke Voit when Hosmer balked. Voit may be the better bet for 2023 if he can regain some of the form he flashed as a NYY.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet">Sources: Max Ferguson and Corey Rosier to Sox in Hosmer deal— Chris Cotillo (@ChrisCotillo) August 2, 2022</blockquote> [removed][removed]


Red Sox also trade Groome.

Lol, I'm ok with this, actually. Let Dalbec play 3rd until Devers gets back. Maybe Hosmer will hit doubles off the wall for the rest of the summer!

Corey Rosier

Max Ferguson

Hopefully these guys have some talent.

You have to hit the ball in the air to hit the wall.

MLB Pipeline suggests Rosier is a potential 4th OF. Ferguson is a potential utility guy.

The Red Sox getting Hosmer is like filling a massive pothole with sand. It might look good initially for some passersby, but it doesn't take long for everyone to notice the enormous pothole is back.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet">New Red Sox OF Corey Rosier this year: .263/.381/.396 w/6 HR, 33 SB, 14.5% BB, 18.2 % K in A+. Originally drafted by Seattle in 2021 (12th rd.) and was acquired by SD in the Adam Frazier deal. Speed is best tool. Solid contact skills & knowledge of strike zone. Lacks power.— Ian Cundall (@IanCundall) August 2, 2022</blockquote> [removed][removed]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet">New Red Sox 2B/SS/CF Max Ferguson was the Padres 5th rd. pick in 2021 out of Tennessee. This year in 432 PA in A/A+: .221/.365/.358 w/6 HR, 55 SB, 17.4% BB & 23.4% K. Best tools are speed & defense. Needs to get stronger. Bat is light & has struggled since he was promoted to A+.— Ian Cundall (@IanCundall) August 2, 2022</blockquote> [removed][removed]

What really matters is the $ coming from the Padres. If it’s Jay Groome for 2 meh prospects and Hosmer + $7-8 mil I’m fine with it; clearly Groome is below many other in house options (though their evaluation could well be wrong).

Hosmer is not great but as a backup for $5-$6 mil/yr behind Casas and as someone who can at least play the position defensively (and be maybe a touch below league average if pressed into full time duty), it’s fine. It’s not a sexy move, for sure. 1B and RF were chasms this year and sadly even Hosmer might be better.

This is a hedge move for 2023 (and I hope the $ coming from SD bears this out). Ideally Casas just comes up and rakes and Hosmer is a cheap Eyechart c.2004 option for 2023/2024 and cheap enough that if he truly craters they can eat the salary and release him.

Speier reporting the Padres are throwing $44 million in—basically all but the MLM through 2025. So essentially Hosmer is free + the 2 other prospects for Jay Groome.

Now Groome may well turn out ok and even be serviceable. But as said above he’s clearly well down the pecking order with the Red Sox and so Bloom turned him into something useful and basically free for the next 3 years.

Now, as to why he couldn’t spin JD into magic beans that’s different. But a DH only bat trending down all year isn’t an easy piece to move. Hill is still hurt and Eovaldi just back and Wacha only now rehabbing… the expiring P contracts weren’t really in a good place to unload.

Speier reporting the Padres are throwing $44 million in—basically all but the MLM through 2025. So essentially Hosmer is free + the 2 other prospects for Jay Groome.

That's actually a good deal for the Red Sox. 1B has been so, so bad for the Sox that Hosmer(who of course really defines the "if he's your answer, you're not asking the right question" joke) is a big improvement. Sure the offensive side will improve slightly, but apparently Hosmer can field, so there is that.
Also, for old school baseball viewers, he only strikes out like 17% of the time, so he's putting the ball in play!

It's just a place holder/cover for Casas move anyway and doesn't cost you anything. I have no issues with this.

Well, if we get enough Phams and Hosmers, then we don't have to watch Cordero and Bradley play, so there's that.

Lol, I'm ok with this, actually. Let Dalbec play 3rd until Devers gets back.

Devers is back. Dalbec should be on the morning bus to Wormtown.

Once I saw the money Boston owes Hosmer through 2025 (about $2.4m, total, for the next 3+ years), then the trade was sort of a no-brainer for Boston. Hosmer's not great, but he is an average hitter, average glove, making rookie money for Boston. That's a huge upgrade for the team, and it doesn't force the team to rush Casas if they don't want to.

In fact, Hosmer continues to hit lefties pretty well (.330 in 100 PAs this year), so you could see a Casas/Hosmer platoon before the end of the year.

I also appreciate that Bloom did not feel compelled to trade Eovaldi or Martinez for nothing, or next-to-nothing. The worst case with both is that they become FAs, the team offers the one-year qualifying offer, they (I presume) reject it, and then the team gets compensatory drafts picks for them. If the return on a trade isn't much better than the comp picks, then you probably don't make the trade.

FWIW, I'm not sure if I'd rather have Groome or Ferguson/Rosier. Maybe the latter depending on my 40 man situation for the winter.

Anyway, I'm not and have never been a Hosmer fan - who on this board would be at this point? - but I ultimately like this for Boston. The interesting part might be that Boston is still on the hook in future years and I doubt he stay a Sawk for the duration of the deal. 3.5 yrs of the minimum for ... 1.5?... years of Hosmer is meh but not bad.