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Sean Murphy hops on Braves’ long-term extension train, with Alex Anthopoulos as engineer - The Athletic

Sustainability starts with ownership. The front office needs stability so that GMs can think long-term. Only the owner can provide the culture and stability required to create sustained success.

“I just think as I’ve become more comfortable in Atlanta, I understand the marketplace, the division, everything else — you have to be fluid in these jobs,” Anthopoulos said of using long-term extensions. “These guys, we think they’re going to be very good players. Yeah, there’s no guarantees and they certainly need to go out and perform and stay healthy. But I’ve said this before, too: I think it’s important for a fan base, as well.

“You (reporters) ask what I worry about the most, and it’s the sustainability piece. I see how well the organization is being run, from (Braves presidents) Derek Schiller and Mike Plant and obviously (chairman) Terry McGuirk overseeing all of us, what they have going on on the business side of the operation. And I feel like, from a baseball operations standpoint, we have to pull our weight. We have to put a good product on the field every year, no matter what. And part of that is the sustainability piece. We don’t want to be in a position where we’re talking about having to trade guys away because they’re getting close to free agency, or that we can’t sign them.”

jimfurtado Posted: December 29, 2022 at 10:56 AM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Rough Carrigan Posted: December 29, 2022 at 11:52 AM (#6111165)
Do they not have any players with Boras as the player's agent?
   2. GregD Posted: December 29, 2022 at 01:43 PM (#6111186)
Are they the most-admired organization among the players? I mean everybody loves the Dodgers and Mets and Yankees money, obviously.
   3. Darren Posted: December 29, 2022 at 03:01 PM (#6111196)
My immediate reaction is that this is another great deal for the Braves, but am I just thinking that because I'm used to them getting great deals? A big chunk of his value comes from framing (18 runs in the past 2 years), and it's debatable how much of that is the catcher. Murphy was only expected to get about $3.5 mil in arbitration, which makes me think his 3 arb years would have been something like 3.5/6.5/10 or something? So his free agent years in the deal, which are ages 31-33, are about $53 mil, or $18 mil per year. Plus there's a team option for $15 mil.

Nope, I can't talk myself out of it. It looks like another really good deal.
   4. John Reynard Posted: December 29, 2022 at 03:06 PM (#6111199)

Its not as amazing as some of their deals because its signed deeper into a players career. Murphy's deal is way riskier for ATL than for example the Albies or Acuna deals. But, its definitely not an overpay for mid-range expectations.

The question, just like with the Olson deal, isn't, "is this a good deal compared to FA spending?" The proper question is, "is the spending of prospect capital + the money spent better than simply signing a FA?"

I think the Braves were better off resigning Freeman compared to the Olson extension and the prospects spent there. But, in a vacuum compared just to FA spending, Olson's deal looks pretty solid. That isn't the actual cost to the team though.

Albies, Acuna, and Harris deals are all quite nice though as they're aggressive early signings. There is always risk the player goes Odubel Herrera on you or something I guess. But, ATL has seemed to dodge that as of yet.
   5. The Duke Posted: December 30, 2022 at 10:28 AM (#6111310)
The mistake is looking at these deals individually. The value of the deals is the Group effect. They've basically got their core position players locked up at reasonable prices for a long run. They seem happy to go year to year on pitching which makes sense to me as well. Altogether an amazing confluence of all-star talent lining up with long term thinking front office.

There's the chance they have paid out a lot of contingent arb money to players who could crater but it's less likely with position players than pitchers and overall, those contracts will very likely produce aggregate surplus value - provably a lot of surplus value m.

What pitcher wouldn't want to pitch in front of this lineup ?

   6. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 30, 2022 at 11:26 AM (#6111315)

What pitcher wouldn't want to pitch in front of this lineup ?

One who has a higher offer to pitch elsewhere.
   7. John Reynard Posted: January 01, 2023 at 01:19 AM (#6111515)
What pitcher wouldn't want to pitch in front of this lineup ?

DeGrom, Verlander, and most of the other SP free agents?
   8. The Duke Posted: January 02, 2023 at 02:24 PM (#6111599)
Well, you do have to be asked.....

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