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Seattle Mariners’ Julio Rodriguez bolsters Rookie of the Year bid, joins rare company in 25-25 club

Julio Rodriguez continued to strengthen his rookie of the year campaign with another big accomplishment Wednesday, stealing his 25th stolen base of the season to lead the Seattle Mariners to a 6-1 victory over the San Diego Padres, securing a key two-game split.

Rodríguez was hit by a pitch by San Diego starter Mike Clevinger and increased his season’s stolen base total to 25 in the fifth inning, making him the third rookie in league history to have at least 25 steals and 25 homers in their first season. But unlike Chris Young in 2007 and Mike Trout in 2012, Rodriguez reached the 25/25 plateau in his debut season. Both Young and Trout reached in the majors late in the previous season, but were still considered rookies.

“I don’t see myself as a rookie. I see myself as a player like anybody else and I’m just happy that I’m being able to deliver for the team any time,” Rodriguez said.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 14, 2022 at 10:40 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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1. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 14, 2022 at 11:30 PM (#6096197)

Who would've though Julio would be into Birkenstocks? Thx #1, appreciate your insights!

2. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Posted: September 15, 2022 at 10:03 AM (#6096218)

Rodriguez is great, but he's no lock for RoY, especially if you take position into account.

Rodriguez: 5.5 WAR in 125 games

Rutschman: 4.5 WAR in 94 games

3. BDC

Posted: September 15, 2022 at 10:10 AM (#6096219)

Stealing 25 bases while wearing Birkenstocks seems like a tie-breaker to me.

4. salvomania Posted: September 15, 2022 at 10:10 AM (#6096220)

1. Bettymel Posted: September 14, 2022 at 11:26 PM (#6096195)

Can we delete this spammer from the rolls? Who is a system administrator these days?

5. salvomania Posted: September 15, 2022 at 10:15 AM (#6096222)

Rodriguez is great, but he's no lock for RoY,

Barring some kind of legendary performance by Rutschman over the last 20 games, I'd say Rodriguez is a lock.

A near-6-WAR season---a full 1.0 WAR ahead of the next-best guy---with 25hr/25sb while playing CF will be tough to beat no matter the playing-time difference.

6. salvomania Posted: September 15, 2022 at 10:22 AM (#6096225)

Considering he's currently played less than 2/3 of a full season, some of Rutschman's counting stats are pretty impressive: 60 runs scored, 30 doubles, and 53 walks.

7. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Posted: September 15, 2022 at 10:24 AM (#6096226)

I wouldn't argue with Rodriguez, but a 1.0 WAR difference in 31 more games isn't really all that much, especially when you're comparing a CF to a very good defensive catcher.

Plus, the O's have been 59-43 since Rutschman came up, compared to 16-24 before that. I doubt if that's entirely a coincidence.

8. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Posted: September 15, 2022 at 10:27 AM (#6096228)

Considering he's currently played less than 2/3 of a full season, some of Rutschman's counting stats are pretty impressive: 60 runs scored, 30 doubles, and 53 walks.

And Rutschman's 53/68 BB/K ratio is a lot more impressive than Rodriguez's 39/140. How many rookies (or veterans) these days have that level of plate discipline?

9. SoSH U at work Posted: September 15, 2022 at 11:18 AM (#6096234)

Plus, the O's have been 59-43 since Rutschman came up, compared to 16-24 before that. I doubt if that's entirely a coincidence.

Considering Rodriguez is the best player on a team going to the playoffs for the first time in 2,700 years, I'm not sure Rutschman is going to get any bonus points on that count.

10. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Posted: September 15, 2022 at 11:29 AM (#6096236)

Considering Rodriguez is the best player on a team going to the playoffs for the first time in 2,700 years, I'm not sure Rutschman is going to get any bonus points on that count.

Again, I'm not saying that Rutschman's more ROYworthy than Rodriguez, just that objectively they're about equally valuable.

But one minor quibble: The Mariners made the playoffs in 32 AD and celebrated with a scandalous pagan ritual, after which The Curse of Jesus doomed them to Eternal Postseason Failure. That was only 1,990 years ago, not 2,700.

11. weiss-man Posted: September 15, 2022 at 11:55 AM (#6096241)

Any rookies ever had a 30-30 season?

12. Der-K's no Kliph Nesteroff. Posted: September 15, 2022 at 12:21 PM (#6096250)

trout

13. bookbook Posted: September 15, 2022 at 12:47 PM (#6096255)

Rutschman’s season has been amazing. The argument that he deserves ROY over Julio? It’s wrong, but it’s a legitimate argument, and very close.

Anyone who thinks Julio isn’t winning the actual ROY this year? Just clearly wrong.

14. Dillon Gee Escape Plan Posted: September 15, 2022 at 05:45 PM (#6096328)

And Rutschman's 53/68 BB/K ratio is a lot more impressive than Rodriguez's 39/140. How many rookies (or veterans) these days have that level of plate discipline?

Which is great, but is that really important for trying to compare their actual results this year?

15. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 15, 2022 at 06:06 PM (#6096331)

So Rutschman is the guy Wieters was supposed to be, right?

Or maybe it actually is Matt Wieters because according to BP, Wieters could create a wormhole and travel through time.

16. Walt Davis Posted: September 17, 2022 at 03:19 PM (#6096635)

Wieters did have back-to-back 5/4 bWAR seasons. Not exactly shabby for a C. Rutschman is at 4.4 WAR in 390 PA at 24; Wieters had 5.2 WAR in 551 PA at 25. Rfield loved Wieters' defense, even more than it loves Adley's. Wieters kinda went off a cliff at 27 but those first 4 years were 13 WAR, 6 WAA -- no, he didn't hit like Josh Gibson but he was a fine player. Maybe the O's shouldn't have trotted him out there for 130 starts a year.

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