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Thursday, November 11, 2021

Silver Slugger winners announced

NL

C Buster Posey, SFG
1B Freddie Freeman, ATL
2B Ozzie Albies, ATL
SS Fernando Tatis, Jr., SDP
3B Austin Riley, ATL
OF Nick Castellanos, CIN
OF Juan Soto, WSN
OF Bryce Harper, PHI
P Max Fried, ATL

AL
C Salvador Perez, KCR
1B Vladimir Guerrero, Jr, TOR
2B Marcus Semien, TOR
SS Xander Bogaerts, BOS
3B Rafael Devers, BOS
OF Cedric Mullins, BAL
OF Teoscar Hernandez, TOR
OF Aaron Judge, NYY
DH Shohei Ohtani, LAA

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 11, 2021 at 06:40 PM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Hombre Brotani Posted: November 11, 2021 at 07:55 PM (#6052598)
Shohei Ohtani is the world's most special boy.
   2. JJ1986 Posted: November 11, 2021 at 08:09 PM (#6052600)
Silver sluggers are silly, but Ozzie Albies?
   3. Dillon Gee Escape Plan Posted: November 11, 2021 at 08:21 PM (#6052602)
I'm guessing Albies got it on the basis of having the most RBIs among 2nd basemen. Jonathan India had the highest wRC+ among NL 2nd basemen (Trea only played about 1/3 of them season at 2nd).
   4. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: November 11, 2021 at 09:33 PM (#6052611)
It's to bad the AL doesn't give a SS for P, it would have been fun for Ohtani to win two of them.
   5. Random Transaction Generator Posted: November 11, 2021 at 10:09 PM (#6052618)
Is Max Fried going to be the last pitcher to win a Silver Slugger? Could be an interesting trivia question in 20 years.

Other than the pitcher/DH and catcher, the remaining AL silver sluggers were from the AL East.

Kyle Tucker got absolutely robbed.
   6. The Duke Posted: November 11, 2021 at 10:42 PM (#6052621)
Max fried wasn’t that far off the Cy Young pace. Anyone won a CY, silver slugger and gold glove in the same year? I guess perfection wind be Cy, MVP, gold glove and silver slugger. I assume no one has done that either.
   7. Jose is Absurdly Correct but not Helpful Posted: November 11, 2021 at 11:11 PM (#6052623)
Hmmmm…

Glavine won the silver slugger both times he won the Cy but not a Gold Glove.
Valenzuela won the SS and the Cy in 1981 and then won the Gold Glove in 1986.
Greinke won the Gold Glove and SS in 2019 but did not win the Cy.
Hershiser won the GG and Cy in 1988 but the SS he won in 1993.

Those appear to be the only pitchers to win Silver Sluggers and Cy Youngs at any point in their careers if I’m scanning right. Valenzuela, Hershiser and Greinke are the only three with all three awards as Glavine never won a Gold Glove.
   8. Cooper Nielson Posted: November 12, 2021 at 01:32 AM (#6052628)
Those appear to be the only pitchers to win Silver Sluggers and Cy Youngs at any point in their careers if I’m scanning right. Valenzuela, Hershiser and Greinke are the only three with all three awards as Glavine never won a Gold Glove.

Good research, thanks! To add to this:

Mike Hampton won a GG and SS in the same year (2003) and he finished 2nd in the Cy Young voting in 1999. I believe Fried, Greinke, and Hampton are the only guys to win GG/SS in the same season.

Fernando looks like he came closest to pulling off the career quinfecta: He won Rookie of the Year, Cy Young, a Gold Glove, two Silver Sluggers, and finished as high as 5th in the MVP voting.

Orel Hershiser won a Cy Young, Silver Slugger, and Gold Glove, finished 6th in MVP voting in 1988 (and probably should've won), and third in Rookie of the Year in 1984 (Dwight Gooden's year, no chance).

Greinke was 4th in ROY and his best MVP finish was 7th.

Justin Verlander has the big three awards (ROY, CY, MVP) but as a career American Leaguer, has never been eligible for a Silver Slugger. (And he's also been a pretty lousy hitter, in limited opportunities.) I don't know if he's ever been particularly close to a Gold Glove, but he hasn't won one.

Bob Gibson won two Cy Youngs, an MVP, and many Gold Gloves, and was a great hitter, but his career ended before the Silver Sluggers started. Also, he didn't come close to winning Rookie of the Year.
   9. salvomania Posted: November 12, 2021 at 11:41 AM (#6052671)
OF Nick Castellanos, CIN
OF Juan Soto, WSN
OF Bryce Harper, PHI

It's ridiculous that they don't go by position---that's three right fielders on the NL team!
   10. salvomania Posted: November 12, 2021 at 11:54 AM (#6052673)
Homers/RBI
Goldschmidt: 31/99
Freeman: 31/83

Offensive WAR:
Goldschmidt: 5.3
Freeman: 4.5

"Batting Runs":
Goldschmidt: 38
Freeman: 30

Extra-Base Hits:
Goldschmidt: 69
Freeman: 58

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2021 NL Silver Slugger 1B:
Freddie Freeman
   11. The Duke Posted: November 12, 2021 at 02:25 PM (#6052701)
Gibson has Cy, MVP, GG in 1968. He was a great hitter but it looks like Jim Maloney or Don Wilson would have beaten him for silver slugger. At worst he would have finished 3rd.

That is about as close to all four as one has gotten. Hampton looks closest for the Cy/GG/SS trifecta
   12. Howie Menckel Posted: November 12, 2021 at 03:18 PM (#6052713)
deGrom this year went a cool: 12 for 33 with 6 RBI (he surrendered 11 ER) and a 110 OPS+.
Fried, on the other hand, was 15 for 55 with 5 RBI and a 72 OPS+.

so deGrom's hot start had him frontrunning for Cy Young and Silver Slugger - and he was even talked of in MVP-chatter circles.

not sure if stats rate him well in fielding, but he's a former SS and an excellent overall athlete.

and of course he was the 2014 NL Rookie of the Year.
   13. Walt Davis Posted: November 12, 2021 at 04:19 PM (#6052725)
Maddux didn't hit that well in his CYA years although if he'd had one of his better years in 95, he might have beaten out Glavine for SS. He was also 3rd in MVP in 95.

Looks like the best SS season of all-time was Micah Owings 333/349/683 with 4 HR and 15 RBI. Don Robinson 82 and Hampton 01 (Coors) had 16 RBI in their SS winning seasons (I assume that is the SS-era record, at least pre-Ohtani and I'm not sure even he had 16 RBI as a P this year). Zambrano 08 at 337/337/554 and Mark Portugal 94 at 354/360/500 look like the next best seasons (Hampton Coors-inflated).

OK looked it up and Ohtani wasn't actually all that good as a P -- 214/323/464 with 3 HR and 8 RBI. So much for the DH penalty. :-) Better than Fried but not tremendously so. Arguably worse than deGrom.
   14. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: November 12, 2021 at 04:28 PM (#6052726)
AL East representing! NL East, too.
   15. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: November 12, 2021 at 04:35 PM (#6052729)
Buxton and Robert look like they would have been contenders, if not for injuries.
   16. cardsfanboy Posted: November 12, 2021 at 08:39 PM (#6052749)
It's ridiculous that they don't go by position---that's three right fielders on the NL team!


It took the Gold Glove 70? years to finally separate outfield, so Silver slugger at 40 years isn't behind.

But you are right, it's pretty stupid that it's "outfield" not positions.
   17. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: November 13, 2021 at 04:41 PM (#6052855)
214/323/464


A .787 OPS is pretty good for a pitcher.

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