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Some Mets players are hesitant to publicly embrace COVID-19 vaccines

But even though experts universally are encouraging the shots as the world tries to end the once-in-a-century pandemic, Mets players publicly have been hesitant to embrace the COVID-19 vaccines for themselves.

“It’s a personal choice,” Michael Conforto said Sunday, “and everybody has their own opinions on whether or not they’re going to get vaccinated.”

The Mets have been consistent in their messaging. James McCann also framed it as a “personal choice,” similar to J.D. Davis’ “personal preference.”

That runs contrary to the school of thought that would consider getting vaccinated a civic duty. The more people who are inoculated — even if it isn’t permanent — the less danger everyone else is in.

Why would players not get it?

I don’t know if I can speak to the reasons why they would or why they wouldn’t,” Conforto said. “I can tell you we have great doctors. We have all the current information on these vaccines in particular. We’re very educated.”

Although the Mets’ policy makes the jabs voluntary, this week the organization is giving players an educational video to make sure they know the facts about how the vaccines work and that they are highly effective.

Conforto said he isn’t comfortable saying whether he will get vaccinated (though he did disclose that he contracted COVID-19 right before spring training).

Davis said he hasn’t thought much about his “personal choice,” adding that Mets players as a whole “aren’t really getting the itch to . . . have that kind of normal lifestyle.”

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 05, 2021 at 10:34 AM | 24 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. salvomania Posted: April 05, 2021 at 01:19 PM (#6011710)
Forcing people to be injected with aborted fetal tissue against their will and then have to carry around government inoculation cards to participate in society seems not only un-American, but downright fascist. It goes against nearly every one of my deeply held beliefs, most of which were shaped by evangelicals, right-wing conspiracy websites and Q podcasts.
   2. bunyon Posted: April 05, 2021 at 01:31 PM (#6011712)
Meanwhile, the Founders would be wondering why we haven't sent in the military to administer vaccines at gunpoint.
   3. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 05, 2021 at 01:37 PM (#6011713)
File under "why we can't have nice things." Like life.
   4. Mayor Blomberg Posted: April 05, 2021 at 01:50 PM (#6011716)
I don’t know if I can speak to the reasons why they would or why they wouldn’t,” Conforto said. “I can tell you we have great doctors. We have all the current information on these vaccines in particular. We’re very educated.”


Apparently not. But that's not surprising.
   5. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 05, 2021 at 02:07 PM (#6011721)
"We’re very educated.”
"We went to YouTube University."
   6. dejarouehg Posted: April 05, 2021 at 02:14 PM (#6011724)
This, in and of itself, is further confirmation that I have no idea why athlete's opinions are ever solicited for anything, as if their ability to hit a baseball somehow gives them some level of intellectual currency on anything else! I'd bet anything that the Mets doctors are advocates for the players getting vaccinated.

(I admit, even though it often conflicts with my own politics, I personally tend to give some black athletes more latitude on this because they are often referring to something that is unique to their life's experiences - and because Laura Ingram is a ****.)
   7. Howie Menckel Posted: April 05, 2021 at 02:49 PM (#6011739)
they should run a clip this week of PGA Tour players being asked at The Masters about the new Georgia voting rights law.

when the US Women's Open was held at Trump National Bedminster in New Jersey in 2017, the look on the faces of the American players was priceless. they were completely mystified as to why anyone would care what they thought about Trump - and obviously they didn't think anything about it.

many of the American men likely will react in similar fashion. the bulk of professional golfers in particular tend to be, well, kind of laser-focused on their sport. but baseball players on the whole tend not to be Renaissance men, either.

whether a young, incredibly fit athlete needs to get a vaccine after having recently contracted COVID and coming out none the worse for wear is sort of an interesting question. the better answer would seem to be "it doesn't hurt - much," but would he be at much risk to himself or others without it?
   8. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 05, 2021 at 03:39 PM (#6011747)
Hard to tell from the excerpt whether those players are vaccine skeptical, or just unwilling to criticize teammates who may be reluctant to get vaccinated. In any event, no reason to be particularly concerned with their opinion at the moment.
   9. . Posted: April 05, 2021 at 03:49 PM (#6011748)
There's a certain fanboy element that thinks pro athletes are not only educated, but voices to which attention actually must be paid. You can see it here a bit on the NBA thread. It's pretty much an embarrassing stance.
   10. KronicFatigue Posted: April 05, 2021 at 04:09 PM (#6011756)
I don't know about "soliciting" athletes' opinions, but I'm very against the Zlatan Ibrahimovic opinion that athletes shouldn't speak on political issues. First, I don't think "politics" is something that can be compartmentalized from the rest of life; everything is politics. Second, anyone who is affected by "politics" has a right to speak. If a stranger at the bar (pre covid) or my neighbor can pontificate on politics, surely LeBron James can. Maybe there's a distinction that can be made when it comes to drawing scientific conclusions, but that's going to be a fine line to draw.

Third and most importantly, anyone who has a voice that people are willing to listen to has an obligation to bend the arc towards justice (however they define it). If people were willing to listen to me, and I felt strongly about something, but refused to speak, I'd be doing the world a great disservice. The "Republicans buy sneakers too" mentality is selfish. Even when I disagree with an athlete's political stance, I respect their willingness to try and do what they think is right.
   11. sunday silence (again) Posted: April 05, 2021 at 04:14 PM (#6011759)

There's a certain fanboy element that thinks pro athletes are not only educated, but voices to which attention actually must be paid. You can see it here a bit on the NBA thread. It's pretty much an embarrassing stance.


Well was it just yesterday you were quoting Chas. Barkleys opinions on politics with some admiration. So what does that say?
   12. dejarouehg Posted: April 05, 2021 at 04:15 PM (#6011762)
Having a right to opine isn't at issue. Soliciting their opinion as if b/c they have a unique skill set that their opinion on anything beyond their skill somehow has more merit than anyone else is what's preposterous - inevitable given the celebrity-driven behavior that exists in this country, but preposterous.

And Zlatan sounded just as stupid.
   13. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 05, 2021 at 04:19 PM (#6011763)
Yeah, this was an article that really didn’t need to be written. Whether the players themselves are getting vaccinated is mildly interesting. What they think others should be doing is just irrelevant, especially if they had to be prodded for their opinion.
   14. gef, talking mongoose & suburban housewife Posted: April 05, 2021 at 04:33 PM (#6011769)
Well was it just yesterday you were quoting Chas. Barkleys opinions on politics with some admiration. So what does that say?


Something something hypocrite something something laughable idiot something something lying piece of excrement something something as always?
   15. greenback used to say live and let live Posted: April 05, 2021 at 04:36 PM (#6011770)
Whether the players themselves are getting vaccinated is mildly interesting. What they think others should be doing is just irrelevant, especially if they had to be prodded for their opinion.

Maybe, maybe not. There's really only one correct answer to questions about vaccinations. The individuals aren't particularly well-qualified to answer that question, as noted above, but it's disappointing that the man in the streets (who in theory has some "role model" responsibilities) doesn't answer unequivocally.
   16. dejarouehg Posted: April 05, 2021 at 05:23 PM (#6011775)
What's interesting - to me anyway, is when players do get vaccinated, how they will implement. Given the how many people have a tough reaction to the second shot, I assume they will try to stagger it.
   17. . Posted: April 05, 2021 at 05:25 PM (#6011777)
Well was it just yesterday you were quoting Chas. Barkleys opinions on politics with some admiration. So what does that say?


That Charles Barkley isn't a pro athlete? And that when he was a pro athlete, he expressed essentially the same opinion about pro athletes -- "I am not a role model" -- that I've expressed here?
   18. Tom Goes to the Ballpark Posted: April 05, 2021 at 05:45 PM (#6011782)
I dislike the “personal choice” line because it waves away the personal responsibility to contribute towards the continued existence of organized society. MLB cannot exist as it does without urban centers and players have a responsibility to do their part in maintaining that status quo.
What's interesting - to me anyway, is when players do get vaccinated, how they will implement. Given the how many people have a tough reaction to the second shot, I assume they will try to stagger it.
I suspect most of the players who are going to be vaccinated are already fully vaccinated.
   19. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 05, 2021 at 10:34 PM (#6011880)
AFAIC anyone who refuses to be vaccinated is a bleeping idiot, but if the Mets want to risk getting their games postponed, as a non-Mets fan that's fine by me.
   20. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: April 05, 2021 at 11:03 PM (#6011884)
Let's give all the non-deGrom Mets Covid.
   21. Howie Menckel Posted: April 05, 2021 at 11:19 PM (#6011885)
AFAIC anyone who refuses to be vaccinated is a bleeping idiot, but if the Mets want to risk getting their games postponed, as a non-Mets fan that's fine by me.

wait, aren't you a Nationals fan?
   22. Howie Menckel Posted: April 05, 2021 at 11:22 PM (#6011886)
anyone who has a voice that people are willing to listen to has an obligation to bend the arc towards justice (however they define it).


what if they aren't very bright, they recognize that, and they are too intellectually lazy to put the effort in to form an educated opinion?

should they use their vast platform to wild-ass guess to satisfy your "obligation" requirement?

one of life's greatest lessons always has been "know what you know, and know what you don't know."
   23. SoSH U at work Posted: April 05, 2021 at 11:51 PM (#6011894)
what if they aren't very bright, they recognize that, and they are too intellectually lazy to put the effort in to form an educated opinion?


Hooray?
   24. Howie Menckel Posted: April 06, 2021 at 12:02 AM (#6011897)
I wouldn't say that - but it's better than obeying a poster's "obligation" on them to opine anyway because something.

athletes tend to be really, really single-minded.

it's striking when you meet "a grown-up in the room," in fact.

One late, thoughtful NBA player asked his teammates - who had an afternoon off with him in Salt Lake City - if they would like to visit the Mormon Tabernacle with him. It wasn't his faith, but he was an intellectually curious man.

let's just say that the responses were not terribly productive.

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