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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Friday, January 20, 2012Source: A’s interested in Manny RamirezJust BillybeingBilly.
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Posted: January 20, 2012 at 05:22 PM | 31 comment(s)
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1. Srul Itza Posted: January 20, 2012 at 07:44 PM (#4041644)It is to cry.
exactly. Might just turn out to be the first good move Beane has made in three years. And of course it would also be a move that has absolutely zero to do with the next competitive A's team.
And: Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Joe Morgan, Mike Piazza, Nomar Garciaparra ...
This is I agree with. It's not Beane's moves this offseason that bug me, it's the moves since 2008 until now that do.
Its not that he hasn't made good moves. Just that the good moves haven't been significant enough.
"I've only ever played the outfield"
"It's not that hard, Manny. Tell him, Wash"
"It's incredibly hard"
EDIT: oh, wait, Sizemore's worked out well so far.
And all three Alou brothers, albeit a couple years before they retired.`
His source is a Craigslist post advertising a grill for sale in Oakland.
Oh, Gary Lavelle is on the authentic Last Gasp team as well. And Ron Gant.
Don't you mean his 50/100/permanent line?
It actually could be a nice help for the next As championship. If Beane can sell Manny to a contender he can convert some current payroll into prospects. If its important to spend a minimum level of payroll in order to placate the union while making a run at a top draft pick, spend it on a guy you have a good shot at flipping. The As are most logical destination, given they don't care that he'll be missing the first two months.
To be worth anything, he needs to rake , and Zips has him at a 101 OPS+ with not much power. Even if he does hit well, I can't imagine a team parting with a prospect who'd be 'a nice help for the next As championship' for two months of the Manny circus. Maybe a live arm/no command reliever, or a solid glove/no bat infielder, but he probably isn't worth more than a longshot lottery ticket.
That being said, as you say, it might be worth it for the As to try. They've got the money, Manny can't possibly be that expensive, and if he doesn't hit it's not like he will singlehandedly torpedo their playoff chances. bbut overall I don't think he's a better candidate for the sign-and-flip maneuver than (two pull two names out of the hat) Johnny Damon or Jim Thome.
Maybe they could get Brandon Allen for him.
Not sure why ZIPs is so down on him, he's never been below 126 in even a half season. I wonder if it's mis-categorizing the time he's missed as injury time.
But either way, he'll either be toast and unsalable, or he will hit close to like the Manny of old. They don't care about scenario one if they can afford eat his salary. That's the cost of the gamble..
Because of those 50 games, it's hard for a contender to gamble the money and roster spot on Manny, but for contenders at mid season needing more offense or to replace key injured players, he would be the ultimate DH upgrade, and maybe more.
The key is to not overpay. The more affordable the contract, the more they can get for him. He needs the As too, or someone like them willing to tie up a roster spot for 50 games on the gamble he isn't toast.
I'm sure they can do better than a 80 OPS+ first baseman.
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