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Sunday, January 11, 2009

Source: (Pedro) Martinez talking to Marlins

Pedro Martinez and the Florida Marlins are believed to be in the beginning stages of negotiating a contract and could meet next week, a source told ESPNdeportes.com Saturday night.

Florida does make sense even though they are cheap. Maybe they think he’ll be something of a drawcard and he shouldn’t command a big contract.

Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 11, 2009 at 02:19 AM | 116 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: January 11, 2009 at 03:55 AM (#3048691)
From the people who brought you Babe Ruth with the Boston Braves and Brett Favre on the New York Jets, comes Pedro Martinez: Florida Marlin!
   2. The Drizz1e Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:03 AM (#3048693)
And Joe Montana with the Kansas City Chiefs.
   3. The Drizz1e Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:03 AM (#3048694)
Or Emmitt Smith with the Arizona Cardinals.
   4. AJMcCringleberry Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:08 AM (#3048696)
Nooooo! Don't make me start rooting for the Marlins.
   5. Dock Ellis Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:11 AM (#3048697)
Or Michael Jordan with the Washington Wizards.
   6. Brandon in MO (Yunitility Infielder) Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:12 AM (#3048698)
C'mon Dayton.. make a move. It's not like we actually have four starters already
   7. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:15 AM (#3048699)
C'mon Dayton.. make a move. It's not like we actually have four starters already
This is petty, but if Pedro really is washed up--which I am not by any means sure of--I'd love to see him end up in the AL so the Yankees would have a chance to face lousy Pedro on a lousy team. Good stuff.
   8. Lassus Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:15 AM (#3048700)
I could approve of a move to Kansas City.

For PEDRO!

(OK, if the Royals want to put me in the rotation, I'll go.)
   9. Textbook Editor Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:48 AM (#3048705)
Heck if the Marlins can take a flyer on Pedro, why not the Phillies, or just about any other NL team?
   10. aleskel Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:05 AM (#3048715)
Patrick Ewing: Seattle Supersonic
   11. Alex meets the threshold for granular review Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:09 AM (#3048717)
Deacon Jones: San Diego Charger/Washington Redskin
Willie Mays: New York Met
Steve Carlton: Chicago White Sock/San Francisco Giant/Minnesota Twin/Cleveland Indian
Ty Cobb: Philadelphia Athletic
   12. RJ in TO Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:13 AM (#3048720)
Patrick Ewing: Seattle Supersonic


Dear god, I thought you were kidding. I had completely forgotten that, although I still remember Hakeem Olajuwon: Toronto Raptor.
   13. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:16 AM (#3048724)
And Joe Montana with the Kansas City Chiefs.

Montana was pretty sweet for the Chiefs. He went 17-8 in the regular season and KC went to the AFC championship game with him.

I really don't want Pedro to pitch for another NL East team.

This is petty, but if Pedro really is washed up--which I am not by any means sure of--I'd love to see him end up in the AL so the Yankees would have a chance to face lousy Pedro on a lousy team. Good stuff.

The jerk store called. They are out of you.
   14. booond Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:26 AM (#3048730)
I won a Fantasy Football league with Kansas City Joe Montana leading the way. Pedro 15-9 with the Marlins is possible.

Or not.
   15. Snowboy Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:30 AM (#3048734)
Many of you people are over-dramatic.
This is nothing like Tony Dorsett: Denver Bronco!

Pedro has already played for four teams.
This is more like: Joe Morgan, Oakland A!
or Robbie Alomar: New York Met!
or Nolan Ryan: Texas Ranger!?
or Jose Canseco: Chicago White Sox?
   16. Boogie Nights Powell Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:38 AM (#3048738)
O.J. Simpson- 49ers
Joe Namath- L.A. Rams
   17. The Most Interesting Man In The World Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:40 AM (#3048740)
Larry Walker: St. Louis Cardinal!?
Andre Dawson: Florida Marlin?
Ellis Burks: Cleveland Indian!
Moises Alou: New York Met.
Chili Davis: New York Yankee

oh, and of course

Neifi: Detroit Tiger

Oh, they have to be good players. My bad.
   18. PreservedFish Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:51 AM (#3048745)
Larry Walker: St. Louis Cardinal!?
Andre Dawson: Florida Marlin?
Ellis Burks: Cleveland Indian!
Moises Alou: New York Met.
Chili Davis: New York Yankee


I dunno, some of these are memorable. Burks, Alou and Walker all spent multiple years with those teams and were all absolute hitting machines to the end. Davis was pretty good too.
   19. The George Sherrill Selection Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:57 AM (#3048747)
Bucky Dent: Kansas City Royal!
   20. Dock Ellis Posted: January 11, 2009 at 06:18 AM (#3048749)
John Smoltz: Boston Red Sox!
   21. Greg K Posted: January 11, 2009 at 06:34 AM (#3048752)
Dave Stieb Chicago White-Stocking!
Kelly Gruber California Angel

And just because he was so dominant in his brief time there...Manny Lee St. Louis Cardinal

In the 3 innings he played for the Cardinals he had 2 putouts, 2 assists and went 1 for 1. Most perfect run with a franchise a player has ever had?
   22. Bowling Baseball Fan Posted: January 11, 2009 at 07:16 AM (#3048762)
Bucky Dent: Kansas City Royal!

After decades of selling off their players to the Yankees, this is how they are finally repaid. :)
   23. jwb Posted: January 11, 2009 at 08:10 AM (#3048769)
Johnny Unitas: San Diego Charger
I was at RFK for Johnny Unitas's debut with the Chargers. That's right: 7 turnovers, 7 net yards passing, and 8 sacks. The game was also notable for being Dan Fouts' NFL debut, after Harland Svare pulled Unitas before he got killed. Unitas and Fouts spent more time on their backs that day than a couple of rent-a-girls at an Interior Department conference.
   24. Devin has a deep burning passion for fuzzy socks Posted: January 11, 2009 at 08:19 AM (#3048771)
Wayne Gretzky: New York Ranger
Hank Aaron: Milwaukee Brewer
Jerry Rice: Seattle Seahawk
Bob Cousy: Cincinnati Royal
   25. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 11, 2009 at 08:40 AM (#3048775)
Gretzky played three seasons for the Rangers, finishing in top-5 in scoring in 2 of those seasons. He averaged more than a point a game as Ranger, which is quite good considering how much offense was down during those years.
   26. Miko Supports Shane's Spam Habit Posted: January 11, 2009 at 08:46 AM (#3048776)
Jerry Rice: Seattle Seahawk

or my fear: Jerry Rice: Denver Bronco. (He didn't make it out of training camp.)
   27. shock Posted: January 11, 2009 at 08:50 AM (#3048778)
Bobby Orr with the Blackhawks
   28. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: January 11, 2009 at 09:16 AM (#3048781)
I'm surprised to see Nolan Ryan: Texas Ranger on any of these lists. That seems like the team most suited for him, and he played there for five seasons.

Joe Morgan: Oakland A!

Oh, just about everyone spends some time with the A's when they get close to age 40. Billy Williams, Dick Allen, Davey Lopes, Joe Morgan, Mike Torrez, Dusty Baker, Don Sutton, Tommy John, Ron Cey, Don Baylor, Dave Parker, Ken Phelps, Willie Randolph, Willie Wilson, Eric Show, Goose Gossage, Steve Sax, Dave Righetti, Tim Raines, Mike Stanley, David Justice, Erik Karros, Frank Thomas, Mike Piazza, Mike Sweeney...it shouldn't be surprising to see ANYONE in an Oakland uniform.
   29. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: January 11, 2009 at 09:22 AM (#3048782)
Wow...I remember Patrick Ewing, Orlando Magician, but not Patrick Ewing, Seattle Supersonic.

Karl Malone, LA Laker was one that horrified and fascinated me at the time.
   30. mashimaro Posted: January 11, 2009 at 09:57 AM (#3048786)
Ty Cobb with Philadelphia
1927
.430 OBP (134 games)
1928
.387 OBP (95 games)
That's not bad for a 24 year veteran player!
   31. Alex meets the threshold for granular review Posted: January 11, 2009 at 10:05 AM (#3048787)
Gretzky played three seasons for the Rangers, finishing in top-5 in scoring in 2 of those seasons. He averaged more than a point a game as Ranger, which is quite good considering how much offense was down during those years.


Wayne Gretzky, St. Louis Blue is more appropriate. He spent, what, five games with them?
   32. aberg Posted: January 11, 2009 at 10:15 AM (#3048788)
He was a Blue on the cover of his Nintendo 64 hockey game! Wayne Gretzky's 3d Hockey. That has to mean something.

Oh, and Dennis Rodman: Dallas Maverick.
   33. akrasian Posted: January 11, 2009 at 12:13 PM (#3048793)
Karl Malone, LA Laker was one that horrified and fascinated me at the time.

If he had stayed healthy through the playoffs, he might have won a title finally.
   34. Babe Adams Posted: January 11, 2009 at 12:47 PM (#3048796)
Oh, just about everyone spends some time with the A's when they get close to age 40.


All three Alou brothers.
   35. Craig Calcaterra Posted: January 11, 2009 at 01:13 PM (#3048803)
Frank Robinson: Dodger and Angel always struck me as odd.
   36. Dr Love Posted: January 11, 2009 at 02:51 PM (#3048814)
Wayne Gretzky, St. Louis Blue is more appropriate. He spent, what, five games with them?


He was there for about a 1/4 of the season, which is a 10 times longer stint than:

Mike Piazza: Florida Marlin!
   37. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: January 11, 2009 at 03:00 PM (#3048815)
John Smoltz: Boston Red Sox!
We have a winner!
   38. Avoid Running At All Times- S. Paige Posted: January 11, 2009 at 03:21 PM (#3048819)
Reggie Sanders: Braves
   39. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:00 PM (#3048833)
No mention of Juan Marichal: Dodger!?
   40. The Original SJ Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:05 PM (#3048835)
If I had a young staff, bringing in Pedro on the cheap would be something on my list. He could show the young kids the proper time to throw at rivals when the out pitches just aren't working.
   41. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:12 PM (#3048838)
If I had a young staff, bringing in Pedro on the cheap would be something on my list. He could show the young kids...
And here I thought you would follow that with something that wasn't stupid, or maybe something that actually happened at some point.
   42. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:18 PM (#3048841)
I wasn't old enough to remember it, but the one I find most historically disappointing is Eddie Mathews: Astro/Tiger. The lone Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta player should have been a lifelong Brave.
   43. The Most Interesting Man In The World Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:25 PM (#3048843)
I often forget this one: Willie McCovey, Oakland Athletic

But, as mentioned above, almost everybody spends time there.
   44. Quinton McCracken's BFF Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:36 PM (#3048847)
Joe Carter - San Francisco Giants

I always remember Joe Carter's pop-flyout in foul territory to end his career as a San Francisco Giant.

Others:

Dale Murphy - Colorado Rockies
Dutch Daulton - Florida Marlins

Not counting odd looking retirements during Spring Training, like Roberto Alomar's Devil Rays, Juan González's St. Louis Cardinals or Javy Lopez's Colorado Rockies
   45. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:42 PM (#3048848)
OK, all time "WTF Were They Doing in that Uniform? " Baseball Team:

C - Mike Piazza - Marlins
C - Yogi Berra - Mets
1B - Jimmie Foxx - Cubs
2B - Robbie Alomar - Diamondbacks
2B - Nellie Fox - Astros
SS - Lou Boudreau - Red Sox*
3B - Ron Santo - White Sox
3B - Wade Boggs - Devil Rays
OF - Dave Winfield - Indians
OF - Babe Ruth - Braves
OF - Duke Snider - Giants
OF - Ken Griffey Jr. - White Sox
OF - Paul Waner - Yankees
DH - Harmon Killebrew - Royals

SP - John Smoltz - Red Sox
SP - Lefty Gomez - Senators
SP - Juan Marichal - Dodgers
SP - Steve carlton - Giants
SP - Phil Niekro - Blue Jays

RP - Goose Gossage - Mariners
RP - Trevor Hoffman - Brewers
RP - Lee Smith - Yankees
RP - Dan Quisenberry - Giants
RP - Roy Face - Expos
RP - John Franco - Astros

MGR - Jim Leyland - Rockies

*Tough fining a SS. More than any other position, it seems the greats stay with their same team, or at most are closely associated with no more than 2:

Ripken
Yount
Ozzie
Banks
Appling
Trammell
Larkin
Rizzuto
Reese
Cronin
Vaughan
Sewell
Concepcion
Wagner

Edit: Fixed Smoltz
   46. "Catching Dianetics" by Dr. L. Ron Karkovice Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:43 PM (#3048849)
My contributions:

Bo Jackson: California Angels
Keith Hernandez: Cleveland Indians
Gaylord Perry: Yankees/Braves/Mariners/Royals
Maury Willis: Montreal Expos
Tim Raines: Baltimore Orioles/Florida Marlins
Eddie Murray: Anaheim Angels
Yogi Berra: NEw York Mets
Duke Snider: San Fran. Giants
Jackie Robinson: NY Giants (Okay, he never played)
Harmon Killebrew: KC ROyals
Pete Rose: Montreal Expos
Ernie Banks: San Diego Padres
Ted Williams: Kansas City Atheletics
Larry Csonka: Memphis Southmen
Gordie Howe: Houston Aeros
   47. Darren Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:44 PM (#3048851)
If I had a young staff, bringing in Pedro on the cheap would be something on my list. He could show the young kids the proper time to throw at rivals when the out pitches just aren't working.


Yeah, but it's hard to teach the kind of control that allows you to hit opposing batters in the hands. :)
   48. Darren Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:48 PM (#3048855)
I don't know which AL East team offered him $7 mil, but it seems like a bad gamble. He'd be destroyed.
   49. Jay Seaver Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:48 PM (#3048856)
Dwight Evans, Oriole
   50. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:52 PM (#3048857)
Ernie Banks: San Diego Padres


Say what? I know he never played for them, but I have never heard that he signed or even attempted to sign with them, or that the Cubs traded, or attempted to trade him. Immediately upon his retirement he was hired by the Cubs as a coach, and actually became the first black man to manage in a game (in 1973 when manager Whitey Lockman was ejected)
   51. "Catching Dianetics" by Dr. L. Ron Karkovice Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:55 PM (#3048858)
The Ernie Banks-Padres and Ted Williams-A's were just thrown in their for fun and misinfotainment.
   52. TugMcGraw Posted: January 11, 2009 at 04:59 PM (#3048861)
Willie Mays: New York Met


Curious if you were alive when Willie called Shea Stadium home.

For younger New Yorkers like me it was a thrill to see him play. Unlike the last year of Mickey Mantle, when you could see playing was not only physically but mentally trying beyond words, Willie's last year celebrated his innate skills. There are those things that simply cannot be captured by statistics and watching a 40-something actually improve the play of the team (well, in 1972, anyways) not only by his output but how he played the game was something to treasure.
   53. Avoid Running At All Times- S. Paige Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:00 PM (#3048862)
Jon Lovitz: News Radio

The Red Sox might as well sign Pedro to make the off-season that more interesting and low-risk high rewardy.
   54. Tom Nawrocki Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:18 PM (#3048869)
it shouldn't be surprising to see ANYONE in an Oakland uniform.

Even the Yankee Clipper.

Wilt Chamberlain: San Diego Conquistador
Jimmy Wynn: Milwaukee Brewer
Bobby Bonds: Chicago Cub
George Foster: Chicago White Sox
Carlos Baerga: Washington National
   55. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:20 PM (#3048871)
My entry in the "Not Yet Playing Out the String" division...

Reggie Jackson: Baltimore Oriole
   56. Random Transaction Generator Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:38 PM (#3048880)
A couple that always bothered me:

Borje Salming - Detroit Red Wings
Darryl Sittler - Detroit Red Wings

Seeing my childhood heroes playing for (at the time) a hated rival was a punch in the gut for me.
   57. "Catching Dianetics" by Dr. L. Ron Karkovice Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:41 PM (#3048882)
Wilt Chamberlain: San Diego Conquistador

Wilt was listed as a "player-coach" and practiced with the team but never suited up for a game. I believe the Lakers still had him covered under an earlier contract and were threatening to sue Chamberlain, the ABA and the Conquistadors if Chamberlain played in a game. He did make it onto a 1974-1975 Topps Card as a Conquistador Center/Coach
   58. The Original SJ Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:54 PM (#3048885)
And here I thought you would follow that with something that wasn't stupid, or maybe something that actually happened at some point.

He knows who Karim Garcia is. I thought I had let that go, but apparently, I had not.
   59. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: January 11, 2009 at 05:57 PM (#3048886)
*Tough fining a SS. More than any other position, it seems the greats stay with their same team, or at most are closely associated with no more than 2:

Omar Vizquel, Mariners? I assumed he had been a lifelong Indian until he signed with the Giants and I went to see if it was true or not.

Although it wasn't odd at the time, only in retrospect, so maybe it shouldn't count. Like Trevor Hoffman, Marlin. Or Bob Abreu, Houston Astro.

SP - John Smoltz - Red Sox
SP - Lefty Gomez - Senators
SP - Juan Marichal - Dodgers
SP - Steve carlton - Giants
SP - Phil Niekro - Blue Jays


Orel Hershiser, Giants would be battling for the 5th spot. And David Cone, Red Sox was totally bizarre, either from a Royals, Mets or Yankees point of view.
   60. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: January 11, 2009 at 06:01 PM (#3048888)
I found a shortstop. Mark Belanger.

Maury Wills, Expos was also mentioned.
   61. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: January 11, 2009 at 06:05 PM (#3048890)
SP - John Smoltz - Red Sox
SP - Lefty Gomez - Senators
SP - Juan Marichal - Dodgers
SP - Steve carlton - Giants
SP - Phil Niekro - Blue Jays

Orel Hershiser, Giants would be battling for the 5th spot. And David Cone, Red Sox was totally bizarre, either from a Royals, Mets or Yankees point of view.


I need to address a glaring omission to that rotation:

Tom Seaver - Red Sox
   62. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: January 11, 2009 at 06:06 PM (#3048892)
My entry in the "Not Yet Playing Out the String" division...

Reggie Jackson: Baltimore Oriole


Dennis Eckersley - Cubs
   63. The Bones McCoy of THT Posted: January 11, 2009 at 06:17 PM (#3048897)
RTG reminded me of a rather unnerving sight: Davey Keon--Hartford Whaler! Even though he had been in the WHA for a few years I couldn't adjust to watching him not wearing the blue and white. Great call on No. 27 BTW.

Of course, seeing guys like Howe, Hull etc. in the WHA was pretty unsettling.

Best Regards

John
   64. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: January 11, 2009 at 06:21 PM (#3048899)
Tom Seaver too? Might as well just make it an all-Red Sox and A's team.

C - Mike Piazza, A's
1B - Frank Thomas, A's
2B - Joe Morgan, A's
3B - Ron Cey, A's
SS - Luis Aparicio, Red Sox
OF - Andre Dawson, Red Sox
OF - Rickey Henderson, Red Sox
OF - Tim Raines, A's

c - Javy Lopez, Red Sox
if - John Olerud, Red Sox
if - Steve Sax, A's
of - Jack Clark, Red Sox
of - Dave Parker, A's
of - Don Baylor, A's
DH - Don Baylor, Red Sox

SP - Don Sutton, A's
SP - Tommy John, A's
SP - Tom Seaver, Red Sox
SP - David Cone, Red Sox
SP - John Smoltz, Red Sox
SP - David Wells, Red Sox

RP - Dennis Eckersley, Red Sox
RP - Eric Gagne, Red Sox
RP - Todd Jones, Red Sox
RP - Dave Righetti, A's
RP - Goose Gossage, A's
   65. Elvis Posted: January 11, 2009 at 06:22 PM (#3048900)
Warren Spahn - Mets or Giants
   66. Every Inge Counts Posted: January 11, 2009 at 07:16 PM (#3048918)
some more NFL:

Art Monk-Philadelphia Eagles
Thurman Thomas: Miami Dolphins
Reggie White: Carolina Panthers
Franco Harris: Seattle Seahawk
   67. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: January 11, 2009 at 07:27 PM (#3048922)
Gary Carter, San Francisco Giant and Los Angeles Dodger.
   68. Mike Emeigh Posted: January 11, 2009 at 07:27 PM (#3048923)
Dave Parker - Toronto Blue Jays. Even I'd forgotten that.

Jim Bouton - Atlanta Braves was one that was always rather interesting to me.

-- MWE
   69. OCF Posted: January 11, 2009 at 07:34 PM (#3048924)
Warren Spahn, Tulsa Oilers? Although that sort of thing used to be more common.
   70. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 11, 2009 at 07:43 PM (#3048929)
Rotoworld is saying the Marlins don't have any plans to engage in serious talk with Pedro. So much for that.
   71. Quinton McCracken's BFF Posted: January 11, 2009 at 07:48 PM (#3048932)
Although it wasn't odd at the time, only in retrospect, so maybe it shouldn't count. Like Trevor Hoffman, Marlin. Or Bob Abreu, Houston Astro.

That's a whole other thread, players who had limited appearances their ML debut team and then moved on to nice careers elsewhere.

So many you could nominate that way:

Pedro Martinez - Dodgers
Ryne Sandberg - Phillies
Jay Buhner - Yankees
Doug Drabek - Yankees
Derek Lowe - Mariners
Moises Alou - Pirates
Bobby Bonilla - White Sox
Jason Schmidt - Braves
Mike Hampton - Mariners
   72. "Catching Dianetics" by Dr. L. Ron Karkovice Posted: January 11, 2009 at 07:52 PM (#3048936)
Art Monk-Philadelphia Eagles
Thurman Thomas: Miami Dolphins
Reggie White: Carolina Panthers
Franco Harris: Seattle Seahawk


Don't forget Earl Campbell on the New Orleans Saints

That's a whole other thread, players who had limited appearances their ML debut team and then moved on to nice careers elsewhere.

So many you could nominate that way:

Pedro Martinez - Dodgers
Ryne Sandberg - Phillies
Jay Buhner - Yankees
Doug Drabek - Yankees
Derek Lowe - Mariners
Moises Alou - Pirates
Bobby Bonilla - White Sox
Jason Schmidt - Braves
Mike Hampton - Mariners


Buhner doesn't belong here as his trade made for a well known Seinfeld epsiode! Also, Hanley on the Marlins (and hopefully Maybin too) also deserves mention.
   73. The District Attorney Posted: January 11, 2009 at 08:10 PM (#3048944)
I don't see how the "he looks SO WEIRD in that uniform!!" factor applies to Pedro, who has already had significant stints with three different teams (and that's if we don't include a pretty good rookie year with the Dodgers). Not at all the same thing as Willie Mays on the Mets or Patrick Ewing on the Sonics, IMO.
   74. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: January 11, 2009 at 08:21 PM (#3048948)
That's a whole other thread, players who had limited appearances their ML debut team and then moved on to nice careers elsewhere.

Julio Franco -- Ft. Wayne Kekiongas
   75. Kyle S Posted: January 11, 2009 at 09:36 PM (#3048971)
Rasheed Wallace - Hawks is a good one. Akin to Piazza on the Marlins.
   76. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: January 11, 2009 at 10:14 PM (#3048986)
Steve McManaman at Man City.
   77. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: January 11, 2009 at 10:18 PM (#3048988)
It can't be wrong to have someone named "McManaman" at Man City. In fact, he should have changed his name to Man ManManaman.

That's why nobody in this thread has said "Johnny Podres with the Padres".
   78. BaseballObscura Posted: January 11, 2009 at 10:28 PM (#3048994)
Julio Franco -- Ft. Wayne Kekiongas


I'm pretty sure he had a brief stint on Jim Creighton's great Brooklyn Excelsiors.

Hakeem Olajuwon - Toronto Raptors
Chauncey Billups - Toronto Raptors
Curtis Joseph - Calgary Flames
Bobby Hull - Hartford Whalers
Mark Messier - Cincinnati Stingers/Indianapolis Racers
Marcel Dionne - New York Rangers
Guy Lafleur - New York Rangers/Quebec Nordiques
Steve Shutt - L.A. Kings

How about Cap Anson managing the Giants in 1898? That one struck me as very odd when I first read it. Ted Williams managing the Rangers/Senators has a similar feel.
   79. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: January 11, 2009 at 10:33 PM (#3048997)
It can't be wrong to have someone named "McManaman" at Man City. In fact, he should have changed his name to Man ManManaman.
There was a coach named Wolfgang Wolf. Yes, he became coach of Wolfsburg. Talk about a match made in heaven. But they fired him really quickly. One of those decisions I will never understand.
   80. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: January 11, 2009 at 10:38 PM (#3048998)
   81. Nolan Giesbrecht Posted: January 11, 2009 at 11:02 PM (#3049012)
OK, all time "WTF Were They Doing in that Uniform? " Baseball Team


My many years reading Baseball Digest as a kid taught me that Sal Maglie of the Giants finding his way over to pitch for hated rivals Brooklyn was worse than bizarre. It was an outrage, a blemish on all that was holy and just about the game. Or so I was told...
   82. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: January 12, 2009 at 12:16 AM (#3049047)
His supposed long-standing desire to be there notwithstanding, Roy Keane at Celtic was pretty weird. Peter Schmeichel at Man City, too.

I wonder if Randy Johnson: San Francisco Giant might be on this list someday.
   83. Dock Ellis Posted: January 12, 2009 at 12:31 AM (#3049050)
Julio Franco was a Phillie once upon a time. Carlos Beltran was an Astro.

I would also add Jamie Moyer to the post above regarding all-time WTF Red Sox/A's roster.
   84. Dock Ellis Posted: January 12, 2009 at 12:36 AM (#3049052)
I wonder if Randy Johnson: San Francisco Giant might be on this list someday.

Hmm. He's already been an Expo, Mariner, Diamondback and Yankee. I think Randy Johnson: Astro would be better.
   85. Alex meets the threshold for granular review Posted: January 12, 2009 at 12:40 AM (#3049054)
Isaac Bruce: San Francisco 49er

That one is depressing beyond words to me.
   86. PreservedFish Posted: January 12, 2009 at 01:18 AM (#3049084)
Carlos Beltran was an Astro
Randy Johnson: Astro


These belong on a sort of opposite list, of players that made the biggest possible splash in a short period of time. Johnson was unbeatable as an Astro (off the top of my head, he was something like 8-0 with a 1.30 ERA) and Beltran had one of the most miraculously dominant postseasons in baseball history.
   87. 1k5v3L Posted: January 12, 2009 at 01:22 AM (#3049087)
Interpretation: Pedro is desperate for Omar's attention, so he's flirting with the Marlins to get noticed.
   88. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: January 12, 2009 at 01:45 AM (#3049100)
Carlos Beltran was an Astro
Randy Johnson: Astro



These belong on a sort of opposite list, of players that made the biggest possible splash in a short period of time. Johnson was unbeatable as an Astro (off the top of my head, he was something like 8-0 with a 1.30 ERA) and Beltran had one of the most miraculously dominant postseasons in baseball history.


Johnson was 10-1 1.28 in 11 starts and got MVP and CYA love for 1/3 of a season. Both belong in the Reggie Jackson Oriole division.
   89. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: January 12, 2009 at 01:50 AM (#3049101)
Also known as the Juan Gonzalez Indian division, or the Ivan Rodriguez Marlin division.
   90. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: January 12, 2009 at 01:54 AM (#3049104)
Also known as the Juan Gonzalez Indian division, or the Ivan Rodriguez Marlin division.


Well, Pudge was a key and very visible member of a World Series winner, so I'm not sure he qualifies.
   91. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: January 12, 2009 at 01:55 AM (#3049106)
Johnson and Beltran weren't "very visible" in their teams' playoff runs?

I just mean a player who made the absolute most of his one anomalous season with a team in the middle of his career.
   92. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: January 12, 2009 at 02:07 AM (#3049108)
Sorry. I was referring in #90 to #57:

My entry in the "Not Yet Playing Out the String" division...

Reggie Jackson: Baltimore Oriole


As in a guy best know for 2 teams but has a largely forgotten stint in between with a third.

You are free to make up any category you want.
   93. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: January 12, 2009 at 02:17 AM (#3049111)
As in a guy best know for 2 teams but has a largely forgotten stint in between with a third.


Captain is Mike Piazza: Marlin!
   94. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: January 12, 2009 at 02:22 AM (#3049115)
As in a guy best know for 2 teams but has a largely forgotten stint in between with a third.
I wonder if A-Rod's Texas stint will someday enter that phase. I guess the contract being so large will stop that from happening.

Also, Sabathia's time in Milwaukee obviously goes into the "Big impact, small time" department.
   95. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 12, 2009 at 02:46 AM (#3049122)
Isaac Bruce: San Francisco 49er

That one is depressing beyond words to me.


It's depressing to me for different reasons. As a 49er fan, it's depressing because he was far and away their best receiver this season.
   96. Iwakuma Chameleon (jonathan) Posted: January 12, 2009 at 03:13 AM (#3049131)
Oh, just about everyone spends some time with the A's when they get close to age 40. Billy Williams, Dick Allen, Davey Lopes, Joe Morgan, Mike Torrez, Dusty Baker, Don Sutton, Tommy John, Ron Cey, Don Baylor, Dave Parker, Ken Phelps, Willie Randolph, Willie Wilson, Eric Show, Goose Gossage, Steve Sax, Dave Righetti, Tim Raines, Mike Stanley, David Justice, Erik Karros, Frank Thomas, Mike Piazza, Mike Sweeney...it shouldn't be surprising to see ANYONE in an Oakland uniform.



It's funny, because given the state of the rotation, I could see where Pedro on the A's would make sense.


It's depressing to me for different reasons. As a 49er fan, it's depressing because he was far and away their best receiver this season.


Ditto. (And Isaac Bruce, 49er cannot touch how depressing Jerry Rice: Raider, Seahawk, Bronco was.)
   97. The George Sherrill Selection Posted: January 12, 2009 at 03:33 AM (#3049138)
Mark McLemore needs to be on the A's team as well.
   98. Dock Ellis Posted: January 12, 2009 at 03:35 AM (#3049139)
Mark McLemore needs to be on the A's team as well.

Does Reggie Jackson - Part II count?
   99. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: January 12, 2009 at 03:36 AM (#3049142)
Does Reggie Jackson - Part II count?


No more than Dennis Eckersley Part II does.
   100. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: January 12, 2009 at 03:49 AM (#3049152)
Sorry, I said Mike Torrez without realizing he was a Part II too.

The Red Sox and A's tradition of hiring 40-year-old HOFers or near-HOFers just before retirement is far preferable to the Pirates and Twins tradition of hiring 34-year-old Rondell Whites and Chris Styneses just before retirement.
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