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Sources: Atlanta Braves, RHP Charlie Morton agree to 1-year, $15 million deal

Charlie Morton is in agreement on a one-year, $15 million deal with the Atlanta Braves, sources told ESPN’s Jeff Passan.

Morton is headed back to the team that drafted him in 2002—and gets the same money that Tampa Bay turned down when it declined its club option last month.

Morton, who led the Rays to the World Series with a Game 7 victory over the Houston Astros in the ALCS, became a free agent after Tampa Bay declined a $15 million option for the 2021 season.

Morton doesn’t have any no-trade protection or incentive clauses built into his deal with the Braves, sources told ESPN’s Buster Olney.

 

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 24, 2020 at 09:56 AM | 22 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 24, 2020 at 10:12 AM (#5990950)
   2. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: November 24, 2020 at 10:29 AM (#5990952)
#1: I thought for a moment that was a Gordon Hayward reference.
   3. Mike Webber Posted: November 24, 2020 at 10:45 AM (#5990955)
With so many young live arms this surprises me a little bit.
Name Age 2021 GSin'20
Max Fried 27 11
Kyle Wright 25 8
Ian Anderson 23 6
Touki Toussaint 25 5
Huascar Ynoa 23 5
Bryse Wilson 23 2
Mike Sorka 23 3

Jared Shuster - 2020 1st rounder from college - plus college pitcher in rnd 4 and 5 last season.

Sean Newcomb 28 4

They flipped Joey Wentz to Detroit last winter - 2016 supplemental 1st rounder out of HS - seems like there is going to be some more of that
   4. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 24, 2020 at 11:19 AM (#5990958)

With so many young live arms this surprises me a little bit.


They also signed Drew Smyly. Their starters had a 5.51 ERA last year, 3rd worst in baseball. They have some promise, but they are ready to contend now and don't have time to let Touki Toussant and Bryse Wilson figure things out. I bet you're right, I can see a few guys dealt, perhaps for cheap, just to clear some 40-man roster spots.
   5. CFBF's Results are Certified Posted: November 24, 2020 at 11:24 AM (#5990959)
The Braves are sort of fighting the last war -- they basically had a tornado tear through their rotation, and Anthopolous seems intent on never having to rely on the Robbie Erlins of the world again.
   6. JRVJ Posted: November 24, 2020 at 12:05 PM (#5990960)
I certainly did not see the Braves as being an active player in this off-season.

I do not like the Braves, but its good to see them trying to get better for 2021.
   7. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 24, 2020 at 12:55 PM (#5990965)
FWIW, the Rays had a $15M option on Morton and declined it!
   8. Walt Davis Posted: November 24, 2020 at 04:35 PM (#5991003)
You can never have too much starting pitching. They may be following the Dodgers "give me 7 good starters, I don't care how fragile they are" approach. And young pitchers break your heart and having a guy like Morton around is usually a plus.

Another example of AAV not taking a hit but a short-term commitment.
   9. bfan Posted: November 24, 2020 at 05:14 PM (#5991014)
I certainly did not see the Braves as being an active player in this off-season.

I do not like the Braves, but its good to see them trying to get better for 2021


I do like the Braves. They have to do something to replace Orsuna and Hamels, who come off 1 year deals. They are replacing an aging vet (Inciarte) with a younger, cheaper (for now), better player (Pache), but that will be treading water at that position.

If the Mets begin to act as a New York market team, this division starts to look very tough, with the Phillies president bragging about spending money stupidly, Lerner's Nats trying to squeeze one more win in his lifetime, and the Braves looking healthy economically again.
   10. Sweatpants Posted: November 24, 2020 at 06:20 PM (#5991019)
So weird to hear him talked about as a coveted starter (well, not by the Rays). I remember him as part of the Braves' unsuccessful quest to find a fifth starter from 2006-08. Morton, Lance Cormier, Kyle Davies, Jo-Jo Reyes, Mark Redman - with a 6.15 ERA as a Brave, Morton is tied with Davies for second-best among that lot.

Actually, he's had a really weird career. With the Pirates you'd hear about how he was turning things around with his new Halladay-esque delivery, but he wasn't really good there, either. Through age 31, he had an ERA+ of 84, with only one relief appearance in his 158 games pitched. You'd think that he'd have washed out, or at least been tried in the bullpen, but even after that teams kept giving him a shot in the rotation, and he actually turned into a quality starter with Houston. Now that ERA+ is all the way up to 98. Apparently a lot of people saw something in him and he finally proved them right.

I guess that was the dream scenario for pitchers like Jamey Wright and Brian Moehler, the guys who kept getting starting jobs for years, to the confusion of everyone watching. Even those two were better than Morton through 31, though, so it really has been a remarkable turnaround that he's had.
   11. Walt Davis Posted: November 24, 2020 at 08:27 PM (#5991033)
I believe he was one of the guys who magically added 75,000 RPM of spin when they got to Houston. But he seemed to carry it through to TB as well. Given his terrible handful of innings in 2020, it's perhaps a bit surprising he could still get $15 M but it was just a handful.
   12. flournoy Posted: November 24, 2020 at 09:35 PM (#5991046)
I really like the Braves' rotation. Soroka will probably miss the first couple weeks of the season, but when he returns, I'd put the rotation of Fried/Soroka/Anderson/Morton/Smyly up against anyone's. I'm a lot happier having Kyle Wright and Bryse Wilson as depth pieces rather than relying on them upfront. Both showed flashes of greatness late in the season, but they also both showed a lot of the opposite.

Some of the other names from post #3:
Touki Toussaint: Hopefully 2021 spells the end of Toussaint's bid to become a major league starting pitcher. Let's see how he does in the bullpen or for another team.
Huascar Ynoa: I don't think the Braves really view him as a starter. He started a lot of bullpen games, but was never actually expected to pitch like a starter.
Jared Shuster: This dude has pitched zero (0) professional innings and had a career collegiate ERA of 6.17. I'm in no hurry to see him in the Braves rotation.
Sean Newcomb: The Braves' handling of him indicates that he's no longer in their plans. He'll probably get a shot to compete for a bullpen spot.
   13. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: November 24, 2020 at 09:51 PM (#5991049)
Soroka throwing on flat ground now. Achilles can be slow to come back from, but shouldn't have much of a long term effect on him.
   14. Padraic Posted: November 24, 2020 at 10:19 PM (#5991052)
FWIW, the Rays had a $15M option on Morton and declined it!


Not nearly as bad as the Phillies paying Morton $7M for 17 innings in 2016, paying a $1M buyout rather than pick up a 9.5M 2017 option, and then watching the Astros sign him for $7M and pitch 146 excellent innings.
   15. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: November 24, 2020 at 11:27 PM (#5991055)
Given his terrible handful of innings in 2020, it's perhaps a bit surprising he could still get $15 M but it was just a handful.

He had a 3.45 FIP in 2020, not as good as last season but very much in line with his Houston years. I think he’ll be just fine next season and wish the Mets could have signed him to this deal.
   16. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: November 25, 2020 at 12:43 PM (#5991106)
That was so maddening, his time with the Phillies. He had already transformed into a really good pitcher. The Phillies got him on a bargain. They were going to trade him at the deadline. Then he got a season-ending injury in April.

I think the same thing had happened with Clay Buchholz and Jeremy Hellickson in the couple years before that, too.
   17. Walt Davis Posted: November 25, 2020 at 05:28 PM (#5991180)
Fair point on the FIP. Weird 38 innings -- which is what 38 innings are for -- but with no winter meetings, we need something to wildly speculate about. His H/9 went up a lot last year and that despite playing in front of a defense that b-r rates as +0.42/9 -- which kills his bWAR to below-replacement. But for sure K, BB and HR rates all still looked very good so unless he's aged into Glendon Rusch, he should be at least average.
   18. Sweatpants Posted: November 25, 2020 at 05:41 PM (#5991182)
That was so maddening, his time with the Phillies. He had already transformed into a really good pitcher. The Phillies got him on a bargain. They were going to trade him at the deadline. Then he got a season-ending injury in April.
This is the kind of thing I could never wrap my head around with regard to Morton. When the Phillies signed him, he was coming off these three seasons (most recent one listed last):

116 IP, 109 ERA+
157 IP, 97 ERA+
129 IP, 81 ERA+

Little difference between FIP and ERA over that period. Then he had four starts with the Phillies and looked good. I'd have described him as a passable starter whose body couldn't hold up over 30 starts. Instead he was regarded as an asset even then. I never understood it, but he kept getting shots and eventually became the pitcher people said he was and then some.
   19. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 25, 2020 at 05:49 PM (#5991184)
Little difference between FIP and ERA over that period. Then he had four starts with the Phillies and looked good. I'd have described him as a passable starter whose body couldn't hold up over 30 starts. Instead he was regarded as an asset even then. I never understood it, but he kept getting shots and eventually became the pitcher people said he was and then some.

Of course there are lots of those "assets" that keep getting chances and never become good.
   20. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: November 26, 2020 at 12:40 AM (#5991233)
Beware pitchers that the Rays give up on.
   21. DFA Posted: November 26, 2020 at 12:50 AM (#5991234)
I wonder what the Rays could have received from the Braves had they simply exercised his option?
   22. Snowboy Posted: November 26, 2020 at 01:46 AM (#5991236)
Beware pitchers that the Rays give up on.


That might be true, but maybe this is just the Rays being the Rays?
They're always in the running for lowest payroll. They have about $29M committed to four players, plus it seems like $2M going to Evan Longoria to play elsewhere, and an option to decide about for Mike Zunino ($4.5M 2020) At $15M, Morton would have been 37yo, and $5M more than Blake Snell, slotting in at #2, or #3? Note Rays this week also DFA OF Hunter Renfroe, who was their 6th most expensive player last year.

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