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Saturday, December 03, 2022

Sources: Bryan Reynolds requests trade from Pirates as his situation takes odd turn before Winter Meetings

Bryan Reynolds’ standing with the Pirates took an odd and unexpected turn on Saturday afternoon, as sources confirmed to the Post-Gazette that the outfielder has requested a trade.

The sticking point, of course, remains what happens now.

The Pirates can obviously acquiesce to the demand and trade Reynolds, who remains under contractual control through 2025. They can also decide to keep him and proceed with the offseason as normal. At this point, per a Pirates statement issued by a team spokesman shortly after the story broke, it’s the latter more than the former.

Describing the news as “disappointing,” the Pirates said Reynolds’ request will have “zero impact on our decision making in this offseason or in the future.”

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 03, 2022 at 04:18 PM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. JRVJ Posted: December 03, 2022 at 04:36 PM (#6107793)
Don't really understand these "demands to be traded".

I mean, sure, all players want to play for the elite teams while in their prime, but that's not how it works.
   2. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 03, 2022 at 04:45 PM (#6107795)
Don't really understand these "demands to be traded".

Agree. What is he going to do? Hold out?
   3. DCA Posted: December 03, 2022 at 05:40 PM (#6107800)
Shutdown
   4. sanny manguillen Posted: December 03, 2022 at 06:30 PM (#6107808)
Reynolds may just be reminding the team he's there, now that they spent some money on Choi and Santana and looked into Kyle Gibson.
   5. danup Posted: December 03, 2022 at 06:41 PM (#6107810)
Seems like the Rangers would make a lot of sense here. Outfield is one of the spots where they could maybe make up enough wins to sneak deGrom into the postseason, given how bad Calhoun was last year.
   6. Walt Davis Posted: December 03, 2022 at 07:20 PM (#6107815)
It seems to me these "demands" work for the player often enough. While there's nothing he can do besides hold out (which also seems to often work), a public declaration of "I don't really want to be here" is pretty strong stuff, puts pressure on the team (and the player) and I suspect only comes after quieter attempts to make something happen have failed. Plus I'd be surprised if the Pirates didn't have this trade already scheduled for either this deadline or next offseason. Besides, he's got 3 years control left and everybody is desperate for a decent CF right now -- the Pirates probably should have been looking to trade him.

Now whether it really works for the player who may get the rep as a malcontent (hurting future earnings) or feel the wrath of his current fans, I'm not so sure.
   7. bookbook Posted: December 03, 2022 at 07:32 PM (#6107817)
Do the Rangers have enough prospect capital to make a trade work? Will they be locking themselves in to an all free agent future if they do make this move?
   8. The Duke Posted: December 03, 2022 at 09:19 PM (#6107831)
The pirates reply seemed quite unprofessional. Has Reynolds done/said something publicly to warrant the FU public response from them?
   9. Howie Menckel Posted: December 03, 2022 at 09:42 PM (#6107835)
fwiw, Reynolds in October made comments about how much he likes being there as part of the next generation, yada yada yada

not sure what has changed since then
   10. DFA Posted: December 03, 2022 at 10:05 PM (#6107838)
Is it really an "odd turn"? I mean, the shelf life of baseball players is not very long, and I bet he has a real appreciation for the situation he finds himself. (And I say this as a fan of a similarly terrible team.)
   11. The Yankee Clapper Posted: December 03, 2022 at 11:52 PM (#6107849)
not sure what has changed since then
Unsuccessful negotiations for a long term extension. Also, FWIW, Reynolds didn’t ‘demand’ a trade, he ‘requested’ one.
   12. It's regretful that PASTE was able to get out Posted: December 03, 2022 at 11:56 PM (#6107850)
Now whether it really works for the player who may get the rep as a malcontent (hurting future earnings) or feel the wrath of his current fans, I'm not so sure.


No worries there! The Pirates don't have any of those.

The pirates reply seemed quite unprofessional. Has Reynolds done/said something publicly to warrant the FU public response from them?


Another possible interpretation is that it won't affect their decision making because they'd already decided to trade him.
   13. Nasty Nate Posted: December 04, 2022 at 10:25 AM (#6107863)
This trade request could alter his HOF chances!
   14. cardsfanboy Posted: December 04, 2022 at 01:11 PM (#6107877)
The pirates reply seemed quite unprofessional. Has Reynolds done/said something publicly to warrant the FU public response from them?


The Pirates reply is about the most professional thing about this. It's exactly what I would want my organization to do and say. (Unless I missed a comment where they dissed him) The Blues hockey team best scorer and probably top two player on the roster requested a trade at the beginning of last season and a year and a half later he's still on the team chugging along (a good year last year, slow start this year) but I wouldn't trade a player for less value than he's worth to the team just because he asked, and it doesn't affect my future roster management, other than knowing I'll probably have almost no chance to sign him.

   15. DCA Posted: December 04, 2022 at 05:07 PM (#6107892)
fwiw, Reynolds in October made comments about how much he likes being there as part of the next generation, yada yada yada

not sure what has changed since then


Maybe he didn't realize that the next generation was Ji-Man Choi and Carlos Santana.
   16. Cris E Posted: December 04, 2022 at 08:06 PM (#6107900)
The message might be to 29 other teams, letting them know to start pressing and not wait for some sort of sign from the Bucs. They're not well-enough run for Reynolds to count on good timing, so he might just be trying to get the ball rolling for them. Y'know, helpful like.
   17. KronicFatigue Posted: December 04, 2022 at 08:25 PM (#6107906)
I love the fluidity of player movement in soccer. As soon as a player wants to move on, the club will almost always immediately make that happen. I don't know about this current situation, but I'm perfectly fine with a player requesting a trade. The "what's he going to do, hold out?" is immeterial. If the Pirates want to be known as an organization that doesn't honor players' wishes, that's on them. Good luck trying to sell his jersey or tickets to go watch him play.

It's better for everyone involved if players are happy with their teams and vice versa.
   18. Ron J Posted: December 05, 2022 at 10:49 AM (#6108000)
#17 But soccer's got the "sell players" economy. Any time a team gets their price on a player he's gone.
   19. Russ Posted: December 05, 2022 at 01:41 PM (#6108056)
Maybe he didn't realize that the next generation was Ji-Man Choi and Carlos Santana.


BINGO
   20. Karl from NY Posted: December 05, 2022 at 03:24 PM (#6108102)
Don't get sucked into overreading the word "demand". That's headline clickbait hyperbole. This was likely as simple as saying "hey, if you can work out a decent trade for me, I'd appreciate it." It's not at all "trade me now you f*ckers."

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