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Wednesday, March 06, 2019

Sources: MLB All-Star ‘Election Day’ planned

As part of sweeping changes to the collective-bargaining agreement increasingly likely to be ratified by Major League Baseball and the MLB Player Association, the sides are planning to overhaul All-Star voting and create an Election Day for fans to pick the starters, major league sources familiar with the plan told ESPN.

The parties also are discussing increasing prize money for Home Run Derby participants in hopes of convincing the game’s biggest stars to participate, according to sources.

The larger deal would include an expansion of rosters to 26 players with a 13-pitcher limit as well as a three-batter-minimum rule for pitchers to be implemented in 2020. MLB and the union also are committing to discuss more complicated economic issues in the midst of the current agreement, which runs through December 2021, and potentially extend the deal, sources told ESPN.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 06, 2019 at 10:57 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Walt Davis Posted: March 06, 2019 at 03:37 PM (#5820758)
I think a 2-batter (or end of inning) limit accomplishes what they want. If the pitcher is effective, there's probably not going to be much of a difference, he'll be left in for the 3rd batter anyway. If he's not effective, do we really want to force teams to use ineffective pitchers. Also, assuming there is the "end of inning" out-clause, it won't stop the first mid-inning change so ... how many innings are there two mid-inning changes with the middle guy not facing 2-3 batters?

I'm not sure what to make of them discussing all these mid-contract changes.
   2. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: March 06, 2019 at 03:44 PM (#5820764)
So an extra roster spot, but it's not tied to a universal DH?

Election day thing - sure, why not.
   3. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 06, 2019 at 03:50 PM (#5820771)
We're never going to get a pitch clock, are we?
   4. Bhaakon Posted: March 07, 2019 at 02:13 AM (#5820904)
Well, you can always just buy a seat behind home plate and bring your own clock.
   5. QLE Posted: March 07, 2019 at 03:38 AM (#5820906)
We're never going to get a pitch clock, are we?


Am I going insane, or did we have a thread on that subject vanish without a trace?
   6. villageidiom Posted: March 07, 2019 at 08:29 AM (#5820917)
You are going insane.

Or maybe not. There were two different threads submitted back-to-back on the same topic (Scherzer's comments). One of them - the one you submitted - was closed.
   7. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: March 07, 2019 at 08:47 AM (#5820923)
I'm not sure what to make of them discussing all these mid-contract changes.

I think it's just a PR push. Between pace of play stories and the free agency is broken narrative, MLB had to do something to put it in a better light.
   8. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: March 07, 2019 at 11:22 AM (#5820980)

Will the 13-pitcher limit mean that if you run out of pitchers, a position player will no longer be allowed to pitch?
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 07, 2019 at 11:26 AM (#5820982)
If he's not effective, do we really want to force teams to use ineffective pitchers.

Yes. That's the risk you take when you use 6 pitchers in a game. One of them is likely to be ineffective, and you should suffer for that.
   10. Greg Pope Posted: March 07, 2019 at 11:52 AM (#5820990)
If he's not effective, do we really want to force teams to use ineffective pitchers.

Yes. That's the risk you take when you use 6 pitchers in a game. One of them is likely to be ineffective, and you should suffer for that.

I think that should be the rule, but I doubt that they'll put it in. Instead, they'll just try to enforce that the 13 other players on the roster are "real" position players. Whether they can codify this with rules that have been suggested here, or it's a guy in the league office approving roster moves, I don't know. Also not sure how Ohtani fits into this. Does MLB want him to be considered one or the other?
   11. QLE Posted: March 07, 2019 at 12:29 PM (#5821003)
#6-

No, there was yet another on the subject that vanished over the weekend- I recall comments in it that aren't in either of those two threads.
   12. villageidiom Posted: March 07, 2019 at 03:24 PM (#5821073)
I think you're right. The Wayback Machine for Saturday has in the Hot Topics bar a thread titled "Rule changes could end MLB's August trades". There is no record of it anywhere now. Adapting from what Wayback had for a link, this would have been the link to the thread. But nothing is there.

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