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Sources: MLB Won’t Adjust the Pitch Clock for the Postseason

The pitch timer in postseason play will remain unchanged from regular-season play. After a meeting of its Executive Council, MLB informed the Competition Committee on Friday afternoon that it will not be presenting any proposals to amend rules for postseason play this year, according to a league official.

The notification is an indication that owners are satisfied with its pace-of-play initiatives and how players have adapted to the new rules. Thanks largely to a timer, which requires a pitch within 15 seconds with the bases empty and 20 seconds with runners, the average time of game has been cut from 3:03 to 2:39.

As hitters have grown more comfortable in using one timeout per plate appearance, time of game has crept up from 2:37 in April to 2:41 in August.

There had been some discussion among players that postseason play could benefit from more time on the clock between pitches, given the importance of the games. Data from MLB indicates that players have adjusted well over the course of the season to playing with the clock.

According to that data, pitches with the bases empty are thrown with an average of 6.5 seconds remaining on the timer and 7.4 seconds remaining with runners on. Violations have declined from 0.71 per game in April to 0.29 per game in August.

Last month 75.4% of all games were played without a pitch-timer violation, including all 15 games on Aug. 25.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 01, 2023 at 03:30 PM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. John Northey Posted: September 01, 2023 at 03:46 PM (#6140290)
Good. Keep the rules the same for the full season. Players have adjusted to it and those who refuse to, well, screw them. I've seen some pitchers accept a ball called when they just need a breather - they let the clock tick down to zero, ump calls a ball, and then the pitcher is ready to get going again. It is all strategy and those who use it wisely win.
   2. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: September 01, 2023 at 03:49 PM (#6140292)
Blind squirrel, nut ... but BRAVO!
   3. Obo Posted: September 01, 2023 at 03:49 PM (#6140293)
Was going to comment but have nothing to add to #1. Agreed on all points.
   4. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: September 01, 2023 at 06:20 PM (#6140300)
Feels weird to be in complete agreement with an announcement from The Office of the Commissioner of Major League Baseball.
   5. Tony S Posted: September 03, 2023 at 03:35 PM (#6140400)
And no Manfred Man in the playoffs. So they're keeping the good idea and ditching the bad one.

Whatever they were smoking, they should have some more.
   6. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: September 04, 2023 at 09:12 AM (#6140432)
Re 5: Thanks to the name change, there are no more "Indians in the summer"...
   7. BDC Posted: September 04, 2023 at 09:29 AM (#6140434)
There had been some discussion among players that postseason play could benefit from more time on the clock between pitches, given the importance of the games


Does any other sport do something like that? One actually hears the opposite: that officials "swallow their whistles" so that the pace is faster in the playoffs. This may not be true, but they don't seem to slow things down, either.

If postseason games take longer (do they?), it's probably a matter of more commercial time, which is extraneous.
   8. NaOH Posted: September 04, 2023 at 02:21 PM (#6140445)
If postseason games take longer (do they?), it's probably a matter of more commercial time, which is extraneous.

From yesterday's Sunday Notes column at FanGraphs:
The average time of a nine-inning MLB game this season is 2:39, down from 3:04 a year ago. Nine-inning postseason games averaged 3:23 last year.
   9. BDC Posted: September 04, 2023 at 03:34 PM (#6140454)
Thanks – I thought I'd remembered that postseason games do take longer, and also that the commercial breaks were longer. It's hard to fathom that the pace of actual play could have been 19 minutes slower than a crawl last year :)
   10. It's regretful that PASTE was able to get out Posted: September 04, 2023 at 04:43 PM (#6140459)
Game times have been very slowly creeping up over the year, and I think it's because pitchers are more commonly using the entire clock and starting their motion with the clock on about 0.5 seconds, and the times they don't actually pitch in time the umpires are giving a little more leeway.

But despite gradually relaxed enforcement of the pitch clock, the game time hasn't actually moved very much. I've come to believe that most of the saved time is due to the two disengagement limit for the pitcher and the one stepout limit for the batter--not so much the pitch clock itself. As long as those rules remain enforced, I think the average game time will likely level off in the 2:40 to 2:45 range, 3:00 to 3:05 in the playoffs with the increased ad time.
   11. Cris E Posted: September 04, 2023 at 06:07 PM (#6140472)
The playoffs do feature quite a bit more deep inhaling and exhaling. And the deep, meaningful eye locks between pitcher and catcher, oh they gotta keep every hour of those. Well, if they won't make changes then I suppose we'll get a lot of requests for a new ball. A guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do to get on Fox.
   12. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 04, 2023 at 06:56 PM (#6140475)
Well, if they won't make changes then I suppose we'll get a lot of requests for a new ball.

Since I'm fond of totally useless information, I'd love to see a graph that showed the average number of baseballs used per game, from the dead ball era through today. The Baseball Bible estimates that 84 to 120 balls are used in an average 9 inning game, but that figure seems kind of low. Just last night in the Houston - Yankees game, the Astros fouled off 41 pitches in only 4 innings off Severino, and fouling off "pitchers' pitches" in general is getting to be an art form for many batter.
   13. Greg Pope Posted: September 04, 2023 at 08:12 PM (#6140481)
But despite gradually relaxed enforcement of the pitch clock, the game time hasn't actually moved very much. I've come to believe that most of the saved time is due to the two disengagement limit for the pitcher and the one stepout limit for the batter--not so much the pitch clock itself. As long as those rules remain enforced, I think the average game time will likely level off in the 2:40 to 2:45 range, 3:00 to 3:05 in the playoffs with the increased ad time.

I'm not sure why you would think that. To me the pace of the game seems way, way better. I'm less concerned with game duration and more concerned with pace. Pace has noticeably picked up with the pitch clock.

Glad to hear MLB isn't changing rules for the playoffs.

As for batters and pitchers adjusting, it's fine. If pitchers figure out how to pitch at the end of the clock without a violation, it will still be better. And if batters use their timeout in every at bat, well, it's only once per at bat instead of every pitch. I'd prefer zero timeouts without reason, but whatever. Not ideal but way better.
   14. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 04, 2023 at 10:38 PM (#6140501)
FTR I've been charting game times and average attendance beginning with the morning of April 5th. The average game time settled at 2:41** on August 14th and has remained there from that point on. In 2022 that average game time was 3:06, or 25 minutes more than it's been this year.

And the average game attendance is up 10%, although by the end of the year the gap will likely shrink a little.

** Or 2:39 / 9 innings, and 3:03 in 2022
   15. sunday silence (again) Posted: September 05, 2023 at 12:57 AM (#6140504)
Hi ANdy: as pointed out by primates in another thread, there was still lingering effects of Covid on attendance as recently as last year. Given the slight drop we should see in Sept. attendance figures this year will probably be very similar to pre Covid norms. So its difficult to associate the faster games with an increase in attendance, as there's several factors to account for.
   16. ReggieThomasLives Posted: September 06, 2023 at 08:52 PM (#6140638)
So its difficult to associate the faster games with an increase in attendance, as there's several factors to account for.


I would think that attendance increases from this change are mostly going to be seen over future years, because fans who stopped or greatly reduced their attendance (in a large part) because they disliked the pace are going to need time to discover the the improvement. Some might not watch baseball at all anymore. Others may only find out mid-season, decide to attend a game or two and if they really enjoy the change buy season tickets for next year.
   17. sunday silence (again) Posted: September 07, 2023 at 12:43 AM (#6140643)
I do agree with you Reggie. Thats how I feel. Am very much looking forward to playoffs.

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