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Thursday, December 22, 2022

Sources: Reds, Wil Myers reach 1-year deal, with ‘24 option

Also, the Reds brought back Curt Casali and have DFA’d Mike Moustakas with $22M left on his deal.

Wil Myers and the Cincinnati Reds are in agreement on a one-year, $7.5 million contract, a source told ESPN’s Jeff Passan on Thursday.

The deal, which includes a mutual option for 2024, could reach $9.5 million this season based on playing time or if he’s traded, sources told ESPN.

The 32-year-old Myers, who has played all three outfield spots and also at first base and third base, became a free agent after the San Diego Padres declined a $20 million option for the 2023 season.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 22, 2022 at 02:14 PM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 22, 2022 at 02:40 PM (#6110560)
Moose signed a $64M contract with the Reds and was worth -1.8 rWAR with them in 184 games.
   2. Walt Davis Posted: December 22, 2022 at 03:20 PM (#6110567)
The Cubs were reportedly looking at Casali and I think they should also have been looking at Myers. There's not much left out there for filling holes at C and 1B.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 22, 2022 at 03:34 PM (#6110571)
The Cubs got Tucker Barnhart instead.
   4. TDF, trained monkey Posted: December 22, 2022 at 04:15 PM (#6110581)
2 good moves by the Reds here. I'm especially surprised they're willing to eat Moose's contract.
   5. DCA Posted: December 22, 2022 at 04:46 PM (#6110583)
In the Reds position, I'd have just stuck with Moose. The Reds are a bad team, and they won't be good again for a while.

Myers is better than Moustakas, but those 2 wins aren't going to matter in 2023, and in 2024 they will both be free agents. If the Reds need a temporary warm body for 1B/DH, they already had Moose on the roster.
   6. BDC Posted: December 22, 2022 at 04:50 PM (#6110584)
Myers made four pitching appearances last year. Gave up two HR in the first, but after that had an ERA 3.38 (one additional HR) in 2-2/3 innings; so, 3-2/3, 7.36 overall. No walks, no strikeouts.

Not exactly Mitch Moreland out there on the mound, but given current tactics, maybe worth a little extra to a team. And maybe not.
   7. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: December 22, 2022 at 04:57 PM (#6110586)
$7.5M? Yikes, how close have the Reds come to crossing the luxury tax point of no return?
   8. TDF, trained monkey Posted: December 22, 2022 at 04:58 PM (#6110587)
In the Reds position, I'd have just stuck with Moose. The Reds are a bad team, and they won't be good again for a while.

Myers is better than Moustakas, but those 2 wins aren't going to matter in 2023, and in 2024 they will both be free agents. If the Reds need a temporary warm body for 1B/DH, they already had Moose on the roster.
Ah, but the context - this is the "where else you gonna go?" franchise.

They may not be going anywhere soon, but at least it looks like they aren't OK with losing 100 games again.
   9. Walt Davis Posted: December 22, 2022 at 06:17 PM (#6110596)
The Cubs got Tucker Barnhart instead.

OK. I did look to see if there'd been a move but the transaction list I saw didn't have aything from the Cubs. I think I'd rather have Casali but tomato-Roberto Perez.
   10. The Duke Posted: December 22, 2022 at 06:21 PM (#6110598)
Why spend $7.5 million ? Was there a big demand for him ?
   11. John Reynard Posted: December 23, 2022 at 05:37 AM (#6110650)
Would Myers be worth his contracts if he'd stayed a passable catcher like he was in the minors?
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 23, 2022 at 10:04 AM (#6110673)

Why spend $7.5 million ? Was there a big demand for him ?


He has been league average, is only 32, I would guess the bottom feeders had some demand in him as a legit bat. $7.5M is like the vet minimum now for a non-terrible hitter. If Carlos Santana is worth $6.7M, then Myers is easily worth $7.5M.
   13. Walt Davis Posted: December 23, 2022 at 02:17 PM (#6110715)
Why spend $7.5 million ? Was there a big demand for him ?

This is roughly 1.5 WAR or a bit less money. I wouldn't be surprised if 2/3 of the teams couldn't have used Myers at this price. He's a consistent 110 OPS+ bat who plays an average LF, above-average 1B and isn't a laughable DH in the universal DH era. There aren't many teams that have a better player than Myers at all three spots and, even if they do, he's probably better than their current 4th OF.

My question then is how did this guy end up on the Reds? As near as I can tell, at the moment the Giants 1B/DH/4th OF is some combo of Wilmer Flores, Tommy LaStella, JD Davis and LaMonte Wade Jr. The Ms have a 1B but looks like they could sure use a 450-PA LF/DH guy. He'd be a better fit if he was LHB but the O's could use a guy like this. Which isn't to deny he's quite fungible -- he's Mitch Moreland with the extra ability to play a passable LF and lots of teams will have a 25-yo who costs nothing and isn't much worse than Myers (and might prove themselves to be better). Come July he might find himself on a contender.

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