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Wednesday, January 27, 2021

Sources: Toronto Blue Jays finalizing trade for New York Mets’ Steven Matz

The Toronto Blue Jays are finalizing a trade to acquire starter Steven Matz from the New York Mets for three prospects, sources familiar with the deal told ESPN’s Jeff Passan on Wednesday.

Matz, a 29-year-old left-hander, agreed to a $5.2 million, one-year deal with the Mets in December.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 27, 2021 at 09:52 PM | 28 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 27, 2021 at 10:42 PM (#6002339)
Does these mean Bauer is going to be a Met?

I don't think this is going to go well for Matz in the AL East. He has given up 1.7 HR/9 the last 4 seasons in the NL East, in a park that's not particularly prone to homers. He's got some solid stuff but I don't think he's especially likely to be average next year.
   2. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: January 27, 2021 at 10:59 PM (#6002343)
I agree with you, but I hope we're wrong. I always liked him.

Alternatively, I'm not sure I can root for Trevor Bauer. Hopefully if they sign him his contract includes a Twitter/media ban.
   3. Howie Menckel Posted: January 27, 2021 at 11:37 PM (#6002358)
Matz is a little unusual in that:

- Mets fans generally like(d) him and
- they'll be happy about this deal even if all the Mets got was a vintage Rance Mulliniks bobblehead.

Long Island native, and the whole family was in the stands in his debut at Citi Field where he won and I think knocked in 4 runs for some sort of record. iirc he lived at home at least through his rookie season.

showed some promise, never seems to have said or did anything stupid.

Matz just never panned out, and it was time to shuffle the deck. Mets fans will wish him well - and not miss him all the same. now, if he shuts down the Yankees here and there (!), all the better.

:)
   4. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: January 28, 2021 at 02:07 AM (#6002372)
Yep, I just came to say that I wish Matz well if this deal is indeed happening.

I would be surprised if this is a meaningful indicator about Bauer because the Mets would have been foolish to enter 2021 expecting any meaningful contribution from Matz.
   5. Adam Starblind Posted: January 28, 2021 at 04:57 AM (#6002375)
Re: Bauer, this does clear $5.2 million in salary below the cap.
   6. Lassus Posted: January 28, 2021 at 08:38 AM (#6002379)
Not surprising, but still a bit personally sad. I've always liked Matz.

And now he REALLY can't get a chance to hit. Batted .228 in 61 PA in 2019.
   7. Random Transaction Generator Posted: January 28, 2021 at 08:39 AM (#6002380)
The three prospects are Sean Reid-Foley (AAAA pitcher), Yennsy Diaz (29th ranked prospect in the Jays system with one MLB appearance), and Josh Winckowski (some kid in who has spent 5 years (4 seasons) in the minors and is still at A+ ball).

This is more about the Jays freeing up a 40-man spot (lose two, gain one) for Marcus Semien, and Pete Walker getting another arm to tinker with.

If Matz grabs the #5 spot in the rotation, that's a win for the Jays as neither of the two MLB pitchers were going to grab it.
   8. Lassus Posted: January 28, 2021 at 08:50 AM (#6002381)
Sean Reid-Foley
Yennsy Diaz
Josh Winckowski
Mets gotta win this trade on names alone.
   9. asinwreck Posted: January 28, 2021 at 08:54 AM (#6002383)
I will not miss the regular post-game interview on SNY from the past two years.

Steve Gelbs: Steven, what happened?

Steven Matz: I've gotta do better. I can't let that happen.

Regarding Bauer, should the Mets sign him and he gets into a Twitter beef with the team owner, that could keep the Daily News in business an extra year or two.
   10. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 28, 2021 at 09:07 AM (#6002384)
This is more about the Jays freeing up a 40-man spot (lose two, gain one) for Marcus Semien, and Pete Walker getting another arm to tinker with.

I don't think you spend $5M on a guy to free a 40-man spot, and tinker. They must think Matz has a good shot of contibuting.

If they just wanted the spot, they would have cut Foley.

Per MLBTR, the Mets have made Bauer a four-year offer, but there are still multiple teams in the mix.
   11. John Northey Posted: January 28, 2021 at 09:56 AM (#6002395)
Worst case for the Jays is Matz is a decent reliever - right now they only have one LH reliever on the likely roster. At $5 mil not a bad risk with his live arm (over 10K/9 IP with under 3 BB/9 last year - just gotta watch out for those home runs). Worth the risk of giving up on 3 guys who weren't in the plans for 2021 or 2022 probably except as depth pieces kept in AAA.
   12. reech Posted: January 28, 2021 at 10:36 AM (#6002403)
Especially in 2020, Matz looked completely lost and often on the verge of tears on the mound.
He might do better in a new environment- but I am glad the Mets got rid of him.
   13. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: January 28, 2021 at 11:57 AM (#6002427)
He's also changing his name to Steven Blue Jeyz.
   14. The Yankee Clapper Posted: January 30, 2021 at 11:14 AM (#6002855)
Regarding Bauer, should the Mets sign him and he gets into a Twitter beef with the team owner, that could keep the Daily News in business an extra year or two.
The Bauer signing may be imminent, since Mets owner Steve Cohen deleted his Twitter account last night. Must be an attempt to avoid conflict with his newly acquired star, no?
   15. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 30, 2021 at 12:29 PM (#6002861)
The Bauer signing may be imminent, since Mets owner Steve Cohen deleted his Twitter account last night. Must be an attempt to avoid conflict with his newly acquired star, no?

Or to avoid extra attention from the SEC.
   16. manchestermets Posted: January 30, 2021 at 07:27 PM (#6002937)
Or to avoid extra attention from the SEC.


For what? I saw he'd chipped into the hedge fund bailout over Gamestop, but was there more than that?
   17. Howie Menckel Posted: January 30, 2021 at 07:37 PM (#6002940)
Cohen says his family was threatened on Twitter for issues not related to the Mets.

anybody within a country mile of anything GameStop is getting harassed - at minimum.
   18. Adam Starblind Posted: January 30, 2021 at 07:39 PM (#6002942)
For what? I saw he'd chipped into the hedge fund bailout over Gamestop, but was there more than that?.


But he did it trying to make money! There ought to be a law.
   19. The Yankee Clapper Posted: January 30, 2021 at 09:01 PM (#6002946)
For what? I saw he'd chipped into the hedge fund bailout over Gamestop, but was there more than that?
Reportedly, Cohen’s own hedge fund, which is said to be down 15% of late, also shorted GameStop. If reports that ~ 140% of the GameStop stock was shorted are accurate, it would seem that not everyone may have been complying with the requirement to acquire the stock being shorted. ‘Naked shorting’ is supposedly illegal, although some say hedge funds flout such restrictions. There’s also a question as to whether anyone leaned on the brokerages to restrict trading on GamesStop to protect their own position. Lots to sort out, and I’m not suggesting there is actual evidence of wrongdoing at this point, but deleting one’s twitter account might cause some to wonder if any of the direct messages might be of interest to the SEC.
   20. phredbird Posted: January 30, 2021 at 09:57 PM (#6002947)

is anybody having trouble with BBTF?

when i try to jump to the last page of a thread, screen goes blank.
   21. Adam Starblind Posted: January 30, 2021 at 10:01 PM (#6002950)
. deleting one’s twitter account might cause some to wonder if any of the direct messages might be of interest to the SEC.


Deactivating your Twitter account would keep those messages out of the hands of the SEC how?
   22. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 30, 2021 at 10:30 PM (#6002957)
Reportedly, Cohen’s own hedge fund, which is said to be down 15% of late, also shorted GameStop. If reports that ~ 140% of the GameStop stock was shorted are accurate, it would seem that not everyone may have been complying with the requirement to acquire the stock being shorted. ‘Naked shorting’ is supposedly illegal, although some say hedge funds flout such restrictions. There’s also a question as to whether anyone leaned on the brokerages to restrict trading on GamesStop to protect their own position. Lots to sort out, and I’m not suggesting there is actual evidence of wrongdoing at this point, but deleting one’s twitter account might cause some to wonder if any of the direct messages might be of interest to the SEC.

Right. People have suggested collusion among the shorts initially, and then collusion to lean on Robinhood and other brokerages once the short squeeze got serious.

Given Cohen's history, unethical, if not illegal, behavior wouldn't be surprising. He's been fined the GDP of small countries by the SEC in the past.
   23. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: January 31, 2021 at 12:12 AM (#6002972)
Worst case for the Jays is Matz is a decent reliever

How is that the worst case? I like Matz and want him to succeed but the guy allowed 14 HR in 30 IP last season.
   24. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 31, 2021 at 10:47 AM (#6002989)

How is that the worst case? I like Matz and want him to succeed but the guy allowed 14 HR in 30 IP last season.


The worst case scenario for a pitcher is always catastrophic injury in his next outing and never throws another pitch again.
   25. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: January 31, 2021 at 10:49 AM (#6002991)
If reports that ~ 140% of the GameStop stock was shorted are accurate, it would seem that not everyone may have been complying with the requirement to acquire the stock being shorted.

There are theoretically ways this can happen even if everyone is abiding by the rules.
   26. TJ Posted: January 31, 2021 at 12:57 PM (#6003008)
they'll be happy about this deal even if all the Mets got was a vintage Rance Mulliniks bobblehead.


This trade would only work if the Mets already had a vintage Garth Iorg bobblehead to platoon on the shelf with Mulliniks...
   27. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: January 31, 2021 at 03:04 PM (#6003018)
The worst case scenario for a pitcher is always catastrophic injury in his next outing and never throws another pitch again.

I would think worst case for a bullpen guy you sign on a 1-year deal looks more like Edwin Diaz 2019. He blows 5-7 games for you before you take him out of the role.
   28. JJ1986 Posted: January 31, 2021 at 06:09 PM (#6003047)
Cohen deleted his Twitter because fans of a totally normal sports site threatened his family.

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