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Thursday, July 13, 2006

SP Times: Ex-pitcher has yet to lose passion for quixotic quest

Dr. Mike Marshall, and his plan for rebuilding pitchers…even Jim Bouton thinks he deserves a shot.

“I haven’t studied what Mike is proposing, but I just know that Mike has always been way ahead of baseball,” Bouton says. “When we were with the Pilots together, they dismissed Mike and he wound up in the minors because baseball couldn’t tolerate somebody like Mike Marshall, somebody who was different. They didn’t like his personality - and then he went on to become a Cy Young Award winner. He’s a guy who thinks outside of the box, and the guys in power are very much inside the box.”

Repoz Posted: July 13, 2006 at 12:39 PM | 9 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: July 13, 2006 at 01:43 PM (#2097451)
I would love to see Mike Marshall work with Professor Rick.
   2. Cris E Posted: July 13, 2006 at 04:22 PM (#2097567)
I thought THIS was the "Canseco searching for druggies" thread...
   3. Steve Treder Posted: July 13, 2006 at 04:39 PM (#2097590)
Had a great time watching and listening to Marshall in two different panel discussion forums at the SABR convention in Seattle a couple of weeks ago. He is a fascinating character: at once highly intelligent, yet almost laughably self-important, and (as Aaron Gleeman put it) curmudgeonly.

His theories may well be the breakthrough baseball has long been waiting for. But frankly, I highly doubt it, and moreover the reason nobody will hire him isn't any of the "outside the box" stuff so much as it's clearly that Marshall undoubtedly drives everyone around him nuts within about a half an hour.
   4. VG Posted: July 13, 2006 at 04:54 PM (#2097602)
I'd love to watch his DVD just to try to understand what he's talking about. The written descriptions of his pitching motion just don't give me a good mental picture, and, while I probably did see him pitch when he went to the AL, it was just as I was starting to watch baseball, and I don't recall his motion at all.
   5. Steve Treder Posted: July 13, 2006 at 05:35 PM (#2097653)
while I probably did see him pitch when he went to the AL, it was just as I was starting to watch baseball, and I don't recall his motion at all.

I saw him pitch a ton when he was in the NL. Did he change his motion after going back to the AL in the late 70s?

The motion he had in the NL was simplicity itself: almost no windup; just kind of rock back and fire, very low leg kick, quite upright, well-balanced follow-through. The irony of it all, of course, is that despite his staggering achievements of in-season durability, in between his big years he did get hurt quite a bit.
   6. jmac66 Posted: July 13, 2006 at 07:25 PM (#2097772)
passion for quixotic quest

it's a short drive from there to obsession followed by lunacy
   7. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: July 13, 2006 at 09:02 PM (#2097933)
I would love to see Mike Marshall work with Doctor Nick.
   8. Smelly is a Firework Posted: July 13, 2006 at 10:55 PM (#2098068)
Teams turn guys away if they have a bad motion? I can see not encouraging a pitcher to change his motion at the major league level. But in the minors, what is the harm in letting these guys in and seeing if they can get people out?

the cubs should be throughing money at this guy.
   9. Smelly is a Firework Posted: July 13, 2006 at 11:28 PM (#2098101)
oh, and by "througing" I mean throwing.

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