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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Tuesday, May 18, 2021Spike Lee to Executive Produce Derek Jeter Docuseries for ESPN
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Posted: May 18, 2021 at 02:12 PM | 57 comment(s)
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1. Tin Angel Posted: May 18, 2021 at 03:30 PM (#6019428)Make room for me.
Can it?
It'd be interesting to hear him be candid about his time in the league. Even if it's just his least favorite and favorite pitchers to face or his favorite contemporary ballplayers. It'd also be interesting to see if he has anything to say about race, which he's basically been silent on, given the times.
I wouldn't expect any of that, but if Jeter were willing to open up (and he's clearly not!) I'm sure it would be interesting. Dude played MLB for 20 years and is now running a team.
Well said
Can't agree with you there, every Lee film I've seen has been worth watching, he's a terrific director.
Unless Jeter opens up there’s nothing of interest for me.
Yeah, we wouldn't want pathetic fanboys around.
I've got nothing against Jeter. Hell of a player. Seems like a nice enough bloke. But at no point in his 20-plus years in the public eye has he said anything remotely interesting or thoughtful, nor has he given any hint there's something deeper lurking. Now, perhaps he's managed to keep this real Jeets hidden from view for a quarter century, but that would be monumentally good job at keeping that self tamped down.
OTOH, look at that all that shiny bling. Wow, fascinating.
I feel you but I don't have the same take away. That perpetual wall is part of what I think would make it interesting if he ever opened up and I think there is at least something in there that would be surprising. I remember reading a DiMaggio biography when I was young that was "controversial" and supposedly uncovered some compelling personal motivations that were (again, as someone who was maybe 13 at the time and with no other context about the story, supposedly) totally hidden during DiMaggio's time alive. I've always suspected there was something like that in Jeter.
IDK, not like we're ever going to find out.
Hey now! Show some RE2PECT, why don't ya?
Wipe your chin. Jesus.
Last thing of his I watched was the documentary Four Little Girls, which was profoundly moving. Otherwise, I think I've seen only She's Gotta Have It (solid debut), Do the Right Thing (extermely good), Malcolm X (one of my favorites of that decade) & the pathetic Summer of Sam. Can't win 'em all.
Link Goes Right To The Key 1-minute Segment of the Video
What's that got to do with the fact that this is going to be insanely boring?
A lot of his work in the past decade-plus is "meh" at best.
They had barely won 22 World Series by the time Jeter joined!
AFAIC Jungle Fever is the best thing Lee's ever done, on many different levels. At his best, Lee has the ability to make movies with intense racial undertones without smothering them with politically correct cliches.
As for the Jeter documentary, I won't deliberately avoid it, but since I almost never watch ESPN I probably won't even be aware of it when I'm watching a ball game or a movie.
Yes, 100% agreed (as a lifelong Yankees fan).
I'd also like to point out that Jeter was like half as good as DiMaggio was. WAR/650 PA DiMaggio 6.7, Jeter 3.7, WAA/650 PA DiMaggio 4.7, Jeter 1.5. He's discussed with the Yankees inner circle greats, but doesn't belong there.
Yeah, but it's obvious why he's in those discussions. He's the Yankees' all-time greatest shortstop, he got more national TV exposure than any player in his era, he upped his game in the postseason, he's on a zillion highlight videos, he never says anything deliberately offensive, 99% of fans pay no attention to the range factor metric that throws a spotlight on his one major weakness, and except for one freak injury he was about as durable as any player this side of Cal. He wasn't Honus Wagner or Cal Ripken, but when it comes to Yankees shortstops his only competition is Phil Rizzuto.
Sure.
He's the Yankees' all-time greatest shortstop,
I think it's the guys they made play 3B.
Jeter played in 158 postseason games, and his postseason line looks exactly like a normal Derek Jeter Season. He hit .308/.374/.465 in the postseason, and .310/.377/.440 in the regular season. His postseason line is nearly identical to his 2001 season.
That's to his credit, of course, since you're generally facing better pitching in October.
The Last Dance wasn't just a hagiography, Jordan came off like kind of a lunatic (but in the way that he wanted to). So I'm curious.
People dismissing the career of Spike Lee are ludicrous, though he's not the authorial voice on this.
The director is Randy Wilkins.
Jeter in the minors (463 games) is also very much a normal Derek Jeter Season: .308/.386/.416
Jeter played in 158 postseason games, and his postseason line looks exactly like a normal Derek Jeter Season. He hit .308/.374/.465 in the postseason, and .310/.377/.440 in the regular season. His postseason line is nearly identical to his 2001 season.
That's to his credit, of course, since you're generally facing better pitching in October.
Which is why players have to "up their game" in October (and now November), because if they don't they wind up looking like ARod for most of his Yankees' postseason career.
Right, Jordan has a personality. And is the greatest of all time in his sport and was at one point likely the most famous person on the planet. And the series didn't focus solely on him.
I could see a one-off piece about Jeter's biography, or a series revisiting the Yankees of that era. But I really don't see how there's any 'there' there for a long profile on Jeets.
Just wait until the 12-part Ken Burns mini-series where Billy Crystal, Bob Costas, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Al Sharpton, John Goodman, Andrew Cuomo, George Will, Barack and Michelle Obama, Garrison Keillor, Lorne Michaels, Alec Baldwin, Bald Vinny, Jay-Z, Noam Chomsky, Alan Dershowitz, Wynton Marsalis, Jennifer Lopez, and more surprise talking heads regale us with tales of Jeter's importance to the Yankees, Major League Baseball, and America for 36 hours.
Clapper would die from chafing &/or dehydration.
That was fun reading there.
I don't think I've ever been more disappointed in a movie than in Summer of Sam. A great director making a film about a fascinating time and place that occurred in my lifetime...shoulda been great, instead it was dreck. (And until BlacKkKlansman, nearly 20 years later [!!], Lee made exactly one good movie in 25th Hour. Yikes!)
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