Another 1/$10 deal

Is there something wrong with Simmons that he got only 3 mil more than Profar?

Profar is four years younger, has more positional versatility, and has been a better hitter the last two years.

Positional versatility? Profar is not a good 2B (see 2019); he can play OF(had serious injury a few years ago, shoulder?), but so?;
Simmons could presumably play 2b or OF also given how well he plays SS.

Maybe Simmons has lost something; he is on wrong side of 30, but supposedly one of the best defensive SS of all time, that would seem to be worth more than a player who has been disappointing his entire career.

But, maybe Simmons' hitting has regressed?

I have nothing to add here except to say that Simmons is an extraordinary player to watch. To call his fielding "poetry in motion" is to insult his fielding. Humans just can't do what he does. Enjoy this Minnesotans, you've got a really special player here.

Profar..... has more positional versatility

It hasn't been tested, but I'd be very surprised if one of the top 5 fielding SS of all time(not career, but DWAR per year) couldn't play any other position on the diamond exceedingly well(catcher excepted of course).

This seems like a steal to me.

6 Yes, again, unless Simmons has some injury going forward that is going to impede him, maybe he does, but seems like a good deal for MN

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#6 I'm aware of only one good defensive SS who had the contemporary reputation of not being able to handle second. Gene Alley.

And his defensive stats at second look perfectly fine to me. The major issue there is that he's have been subbing for Mazeroski and let's face it, not as good as Maz is not the same thing as bad.

Is there something wrong with Simmons that he got only 3 mil more than Profar?

I think the Profar contract was just an over-pay.

The guys a barely average hitter who doesn't really have a position.

7. baxter Posted: January 27, 2021 at 12:51 AM (#6002066)
6 Yes, again, unless Simmons has some injury going forward that is going to impede him, maybe he does, but seems like a good deal for MN

It's a good deal for MN in that it's only one season, and it's a chance for Simmons to reestablish himself and hope to get a longer contract next offseason. Simmons is a guy who hit like Vizquel but fielded like Ozzie his first four seasons, and that's a great player. Then at 27 and 28 he found a way to become a bit above average, not by much, with the bat, and he was playing like a HOF shortstop. However, in 2019 he was injured, missed quite a bit of time, and hit like Vizquel again, and in 2020 he also missed quite a bit of time although the bat came back a bit. He's now on the wrong side of 30, which usually means, even for an excellent shortstop, that defense is on the decline. I'm not at all surprised he took a one year bargain deal to try to show he's healthy and able to be highly productive again. I hope he will, it's so fun to watch someone glide across the diamond at short making plays look so easy, and making plays almost no one else can make.

I would have thought Polanco was a better fit for the super-utility guy and leave Arraez at second, but I assume they know what they are doing better than internet guy.

hit like Vizquel again

A guy who hits like Vizquel but fields like Simmons is an excellent player, right? I mean, the guy who hit like Vizquel and fielded like Vizquel is getting treated like a borderline Hall of Famer.

He's had some injury trouble the last two years, in one of which it appears to have affected his bat. But if this is what Andrelton Simmons costs, a lot more teams should have been in on him.

Galvis for $1.5 mil. Simmons for $10 mil. Is there that much difference between the two? Galvis may hit better. Is Simmons has no injury issues, he is/was the superior fielder.

Galvis for $1.5 mil. Simmons for $10 mil. Is there that much difference between the two? Galvis may hit better. Is Simmons has no injury issues, he is/was the superior fielder.

??? Are you serious?

From 2015 to 2019 Simmons averaged 5.0 WAR, Galvis 1.5 WAR.

Simmons projects to 3 wins, Galvis to 0.7.

I mean, the guy who hit like Vizquel and fielded like Vizquel is getting treated like a borderline Hall of Famer.

Well, yes, but... there's a pretty big "yes, but" there. Vizquel is being treated that way as a career - not peak - candidate. Vizquel had 24 seasons, Simmons has 9 seasons (which, honestly, given 2020, is really 8).

I like the move. Infield defense matters and this should help a great deal. Health matters though of course, and will tell the tale of how good an idea this move was.

Not saying they are of equal value but is Simmons worth 8.5 million in your player budget? Not sure what happened to his health the last 2 seasons. The Angels replaced him with Jose Iglesias for quite a bit less $ as well.

If you believe Simmons is a 2 win player, then yes, he's worth it. You've got a lot of upside from there.

Galvis projects to a 75 wRC+, with average D. You don't really want him to play at all.

Even if Simmons gets hurt, they've got a bunch of depth with Polanco and Arraez. Someone as good as Galvis should always be available.