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Stark: Can Phillies make their payroll puzzle workable after Trea Turner mega deal? - The Athletic

But agents and teams they’ve spoken with get no sense whatsoever that the Phillies are nervous about how their payroll puzzle will fit together — in the short term or the long term. So let’s ask again: Should they be?

I posed that question to a few bright minds in rival front offices. It was a fascinating exercise.

One general manager had no second thoughts. None. He’s a fan of watching teams in his sport go “all-in” to win when they think it’s their time. So he used the word “awesome” to describe this.

I asked another executive if he thought the Phillies’ payroll structure was workable over the next few years. He, too, shot down concerns.

“All payroll structures are workable,” he said — assuming the owner’s overriding goal in life is to win.

jimfurtado Posted: December 07, 2022 at 09:41 AM | 4 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Stevey Posted: December 07, 2022 at 10:55 AM (#6108486)
I'm glad there were quotes shooting down any complaints about the Phillies roster.

Fans have become so damned conditioned to believe that the worst thing a franchise can do is overpay for a player, when really they should be far more upset about teams putting out crappy players just because they are cheap. There are no rings given out for having the most surplus value, or obtaining the best WAR/$. The goal is to put the best team on the field.
   2. Walt Davis Posted: December 07, 2022 at 02:59 PM (#6108564)
The Phils might be the closest to an "all FA" team. You've got now 8 (?) guys but still collectively they make about $165 a year, hardly a burden. They've got two more moderately paid guys in Nola ($16) and Kingery (oops, $8). Then it's just 7 arb guys -- Hoskins, Alvarado and Seranthony will get reasonable paydays but nothing to worry about. And while they have some useful pre-arb guys who might take that next step, as it stands there's nobody special in that group.

I'm sure they'd like to take the Castellanos deal back but otherwise the main threat to their future is not the payroll, it's the lack of young talent.
   3. /muteself 57i66135 Posted: December 07, 2022 at 03:33 PM (#6108570)
the phillies are a model application of republican economics:

"the excess revenue generated by cutting taxes winning games means that the tax cuts payroll will pay for itself."
   4. The Duke Posted: December 13, 2022 at 10:14 AM (#6109327)
Dombrowski is already a success. Getting to the Series means he's a made man now. He can put the finishing touches on the Phillies over the next 18 months and then move on another team to work his magic again. Arte Moreno should hire him as his last act. The Angels and Dombrowski were made for one another

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