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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Saturday, December 25, 2010Strubel: Tim “Terrific” Leary and the subtle danger of talentTurn on, tune in, flame out…a look back at Tim Leary.
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Posted: December 25, 2010 at 07:52 PM | 5 comment(s)
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1. Walt Davis Posted: December 26, 2010 at 12:43 AM (#3717889)Whoa! You usually have to work pretty hard to find a Cub name that doesn't even sound familiar. And this guy was an opening day 2B!
Man what a Metsian collection of 2B we had that year (1981 explaining the low PA totals):
Strain: 80 PA, 28 OPS+
Tabler: 117, 54
Dillard: 127, 70
Mike Tyson: 50, 45
Fletcher: 48, 55
Total: 193/249/269; 54?
I was in a APBA Card League for the 1990 season and I inherited a team in which the previous owner had an apparent fetish for relievers and switch-hitters. Sadly, Leary (ERA+: 97) was my second-best starter behind Bob Welch. I had such luminaries as Chuck Cary, Jim Abbott and Kevin Gross rounding out the rotation.
Fortunately, I had Eckersley, Randy Myers and Greg Harris (the good one) for a bullpen.
I found some of the old stat sheets from that league (amazing what you don't throw away), and was sadly reminded of what may have been the worst bench of all time. Alex Trevino, Cecil Espy, Junior Felix, Wayne Tolleson and the immortal Curtis Wilkerson.
According to baseball-reference.com Leary was born in March of 1958; making him 23; not 22, when he made his MLB debut in April of 1981. I think it's fair to say that 23 is not really all that "young" for someone making a MLB debut. Also in the article:
Just for reference's sake, also on the Mets roster in 1981 was 23 year old Neil Allen, who already had two MLB seasons under his belt (along with 13-20 MLB record, plus 30 MLB Saves). Ron Darling was 22 when he joined the big club in 1983. Darling would start 33 games for the Mets the next year, at the age of 23 (the same age Leary was in 1981). That same 1984 season, Sid Fernandez, at the age of 21, started 15 games for the Mets. And, of course (as mentioned in the article) there was Dwight Gooden, who made his MLB debut with the Mets in 1984 at the age of 19. So I'm not really sold on the idea the Mets GM Frank Cashen was "staunchly conservative in his approach to promoting young, developing arms" and was the type who needed to be "convinced" to promote a 23 year old pitcher to the MLB roster.
But more to the point, not mentioned in TFA is that Leary went on to pitch in 13 MLB seasons. Leary had three seasons where he pitched over 200 innings (1988, 1989 and 1990). He was the winner of the 1988 "Comeback Player of the Year" award, going 17-11 for the World Champion Dodgers (including this one-hitter against the Phillies). So while Leary's injury may have kept him from being the next Tom Seaver, a Major League career of 13 seasons and close to 1500 Innings Pitched is nothing to sneeze at.
DB
Especially if you're tripped out as #### on LSD the entire time.
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