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Friday, September 01, 2006

Sun-Sentinel: Hyde: Marlins president is a real crass act

A Samson and Delilah Knotty problem?

Recently, the Marlins’ team president gave another supposedly comic discourse on 790 The Ticket (WAXY-AM) that touched all the bases of women, sex and pornography. This isn’t uncommon. In the past, he has “joked” of having Porn Night at the stadium. He’s “joked” of having a sex toy in his car. He’s “joked” which players looked like porn stars. (Do you see the thread here? And are you laughing yet?)

...Samson said on Thursday the show is “done completely tongue in cheek. It is a show where movies are reviewed and conversations are had all for the purpose of humor. We absolutely do not intend to have anybody take anything that is said on the show seriously.”

He then gave this example: “We were talking of a [Marlins] promotion where strippers would give lap dances and I said, `No, it’s much funnier if you have them work the foul pole.’ If people think that is seriously a promotion ...”

What a moron he sounds like.

Repoz Posted: September 01, 2006 at 05:42 AM | 23 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. TerpNats Posted: September 01, 2006 at 06:39 AM (#2164398)
Occasionally, some Nationals fans say they wish that instead of the Expos moving to Washington, Jeffrey Loria should have been able to bring the Marlins to D.C. Certainly I wouldn't mind seeing Willis, Cabrera and some of the fine young players they have acquired in home uniforms at RFK.

Then I read this, and remember that this guy would also be part of the deal. Suddenly, I'm satisfied with the Lerners, Kasten, even Bowden, and a quasi-expansion team.
   2. Repoz Posted: September 01, 2006 at 06:40 AM (#2164400)
Bettie Paging Mr. Brattain.....Bettie Paging Mr. John Brattain
   3. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: September 01, 2006 at 07:12 AM (#2164407)
`No, it’s much funnier if you have them work the foul pole.’
He's right - that is funnier.

In the past, he has “joked” of having Porn Night at the stadium.
I've joked of holding BATF Night - first 10,000 fans get a pint, a pack and a piece.
   4. jwb Posted: September 01, 2006 at 08:13 AM (#2164412)
I've joked of holding BATF Night - first 10,000 fans get a pint, a pack and a piece.

That will certainly increase the attendance for batting practice.
   5. Ozzie's gay friend Posted: September 01, 2006 at 09:23 AM (#2164418)
So what, he has a sense of humor. I see no problem.
   6. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: September 01, 2006 at 11:23 AM (#2164429)
Anybody who talks about or even knows about sex should have his children taken away.
   7. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2006 at 11:30 AM (#2164430)
I think the point of the article is that he talks about strippers and porn all the damn time. Hyde is writing a fun little character-assassination piece, implying that Samson is himself a constant customer of the same. (My guess is that Hyde knows more than he's writing here, but that's hardly fair to Samson, who may have just pissed off the wrong reporter.)

I've known people who talked about strippers and porn all the damn time. They were, to a man, tremendously distasteful people. It's a pretty good indicator.
   8. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: September 01, 2006 at 12:16 PM (#2164444)
My favorite is how Hyde put quotes around "joked" every time. That's all very nefarious. It's like the music swell and camera angle when the Evil Man walks into a scene in a Lifetime movie.
   9. John Lowenstein Apathy Club Posted: September 01, 2006 at 12:56 PM (#2164458)
I can think of hundreds (probably thousands) or reasons to despise and detest Samson. This isn't one, other than just reinforcing that he's a moron.
   10. zfan Posted: September 01, 2006 at 01:19 PM (#2164479)
Does anyone else think this insight into the team president's mode of conversation might say something about the issues between Joe Girardi and the front office? Joe is a notorious Christian, and probably not averse to giving a stony glare when someone tries to get him to laugh at sexual innuendo. If the Marlins are some sort of "anti-Rockies" when it comes to the culture of the team, then maybe some of Joe's "clean image" rules might rub Samson and others (not just the players) the wrong way.
   11. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: September 01, 2006 at 01:33 PM (#2164494)
It's like the music swell and camera angle when <strike>the Evil</strike> any Man walks into a scene in a Lifetime movie.
   12. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: September 01, 2006 at 01:58 PM (#2164516)
Joe is a notorious Christian, and probably not averse to giving a stony glare when someone tries to get him to laugh at sexual innuendo.

It would be hard to believe that someone that straight-laced would be thought a fit for any major-league team.
   13. Rally Posted: September 01, 2006 at 02:25 PM (#2164546)
So what, he has a sense of humor. I see no problem.

I agree. It is a little weird to see a team president talking like Howard Stern. If I was the owner of a team that draws fans, I would have a problem with it from a business perspective - you need to be family friendly tomaximize your team's appeal.

But this is one more thing the Marlins can get away with, just like Beinfest can get away with slashing the payroll.

Media: Your foul mouth will drive away all the fans!

Samson: What fans?
   14. The Bones McCoy of THT Posted: September 01, 2006 at 02:39 PM (#2164559)
Bettie Paging Mr. Brattain.....Bettie Paging Mr. John Brattain


Heh, just follow any "David Samson" links in my Hardball Times columns and you'll come across all kinds of interesting stuff.

Most weeks I manage to sneak one thing in.

Best Regards

John
   15. bunyon Posted: September 01, 2006 at 02:40 PM (#2164563)
Anybody who talks about or even knows about sex should have his children taken away.

This was overlooked. Hilarios.
   16. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2006 at 02:41 PM (#2164565)
The point of this column is to say that Samson is a reprehensible jerk. It's got nothing to do with the marketing of the Marlins, it's just that this guy is an ass. It's a genre of a long and mildly respectable history, with roots back to ancient Greece, if not far earlier.
   17. The Bones McCoy of THT Posted: September 01, 2006 at 02:47 PM (#2164574)
The point of this column is to say that Samson is a reprehensible jerk. It's got nothing to do with the marketing of the Marlins, it's just that this guy is an ass.


Well a half-ass anyway.

Best regards

John
   18. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 01, 2006 at 02:49 PM (#2164576)
It would be hard to believe that someone that straight-laced would be thought a fit for any major-league team.
FWIW, when Giardi was with the Yankees, I remember there being a couple of stories about how he and Pettitte were the leaders of the heavily Christian faction of the team but that they got along well with the less religious gang, joking about having a prayer session as oppossed to extra BP, that kind of thing. I think the one who tended to stir the turd in that regard was Chad Curtis.
   19. Cris E Posted: September 01, 2006 at 03:02 PM (#2164589)
to stir the turd



I didn't need to read that...
   20. John Lowenstein Apathy Club Posted: September 01, 2006 at 03:03 PM (#2164590)
If I was the owner of a team that draws fans

The Marlins have no worries here whatsoever.
   21. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 01, 2006 at 03:06 PM (#2164593)
My understanding is that the marketing plan of Major League Baseball is to portray an image of being "family friendly".

This stuff clearly diverges from that marketing strategy. I would suspect that the VP of Marketing of MLB might be making a phone call to the Marlins office...........
   22. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 01, 2006 at 03:26 PM (#2164625)
In the past, he has “joked” of having Porn Night at the stadium.

This might get me to go down to their crappy stadium.
   23. cardsfanboy Posted: September 01, 2006 at 06:41 PM (#2164867)
I've always thought the mantra for marketing was "sex sells". If it increases attendence or even attention to the franchise they shouldn't be chatised. Of course a porn night would probably do more harm in the long term than help in the short term so I think that is why it was a "joke".

I've always stated that the nfl should have a picture in picture camera stationed on the cheerleaders until play resumes, and heck leave the picture and picture on when the commercials come on to keep people from flipping the channels, you know making those commercials have actual value(of course you could throw a loop of various cheerleaders into the pip because obviously those girls aren't working every minute of the game, if so they need to get paid a lot more than they do)

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