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Monday, March 05, 2018

Taking Back the Ballparks - St. Louis Cardinals

Now, it’s quite possible there is some obscure law in Missouri that says the home of the Cardinals must be named after the first family of bland American beer. But, screw it, let’s take some chances.

The National League’s most successful franchise has been playing in its current home for a little more than a decade, when new Busch replaced old Busch, which likely was the crème de la crème of the cookie-cutters, which is a complisult of the highest order. 

Nothing much has changed with the relocation a few hundred feet south. The Cardinals still win a lot of games there, because that’s what the Cardinals always do. The club’s fans love the team, and themselves. But they pack the place every year.

It’s unquestionably a great baseball town, and a great baseball town with a rich history warrants a stellar name for the old ballyard. Can anything supplant Busch?

Ballpark History
Built: 2006
Name: Busch Stadium 2006-present. 
Other ballparks used by club in its current city: Busch Memorial Stadium 1966-2005, Sportsman’s Park 1920-1966 (named changed to, you guessed it, Busch Stadium, 1953-1966), Sportsman’s Park II 1893-1920 (park also known as League Park, 1899-1911, Robison Field 1911-1917, Cardinal Field 1917-20, Sportsman’s Park (1882-1892). 
Distinctive Features:A better view of the city’s most famous landmark than the old, fully enclosed building once offered; outside Gate 3 is a duck-billed statue of Cardinals great Stan Musial, while odes to lesser St. Louis greats sit outside the team store; Gate 3 entrance designed to look like Eads Bridge over the Mississippi; so much red.

Ballpark Highlights:

In 2006, the year it opened, the home team returned to Busch with the World Series tied at one game apiece and rolled off three straight World Series victories to defeat the Detroit Tigers for the title. 

In Game 6 of the 2011 World Series, the Cards rallied from a two-run deficit in the ninth, then another two-run deficit in the 10th, before David Freese’s homer in the 11th sent the Fall Classic to a Game 7. The Cards went on to win their 11th championship one night later.

In one of the more bizarre endings to a World Series game in history, future terrible Red Sox player Allen Craig scored the game-winning run on an obstruction call on former terrible Red Sox third baseman Will Middlebrooks, allowing the home team to take a 2-1 series lead over Boston in the 2013 Fall Classic. P.S. – it was the right call.

In 2014, the Cardinals promoted Chris Correa to scouting director, choosing the internal option over Elliott Anderson, Julian Assange and several members of Anonymous.

Selections to Date
San Francisco Giants - China Basin

Texas Rangers - The Ballpark in Arlington

San Diego Padres - Mission Field

Boston Red Sox - Fenway Park

Washington Nationals - Nationals Park

Tampa Bay Rays - Suncoast Dome

Philadelphia Phillies - Citizens Park

Seattle Mariners - Cascadia Field

Pittsburgh Pirates - Allegheny Park

Kansas City Royals -Kauffman Stadium

New York Mets - Willets Point

Los Angeles Angels - Autry Field

SoSH U at work Posted: March 05, 2018 at 10:00 AM | 30 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: cardlinals, stadium names

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   1. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: March 05, 2018 at 12:01 PM (#5633802)
Gateway Park
   2. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: March 05, 2018 at 02:43 PM (#5633961)
Sportsman's Park
   3. Panik on the streets of Flushing! (Trout! Trout!) Posted: March 05, 2018 at 02:54 PM (#5633976)
Fred Bird Stadium
   4. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: March 05, 2018 at 03:01 PM (#5633986)
Best Park In Baseball
   5. Rusty Priske Posted: March 05, 2018 at 03:06 PM (#5633989)
Robison Field
   6. QLE Posted: March 05, 2018 at 04:03 PM (#5634059)
Rickey Park
   7. Dag Nabbit at Posted: March 05, 2018 at 04:14 PM (#5634075)
I like Gateway Park (or any variation on Gateway [something].

That said, Busch Field works, too. It's historic and Busch is one of the most well-known businesses long associated with St. Louis.
   8. BDC Posted: March 05, 2018 at 04:21 PM (#5634080)
Yes, I think it should stay Busch. Unlike some other cities, the older name (Sportsman's) is pretty uninspiring.
   9. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: March 05, 2018 at 05:10 PM (#5634113)
Seconding [4].
   10. Pujols Shot Ya Posted: March 06, 2018 at 01:42 PM (#5634546)
Stan the Man’s Park. With an accompanying renaming of the neighborhood/village/whatever to “The Land of Oz.”
   11. phredbird Posted: March 06, 2018 at 08:08 PM (#5634719)
Fred Bird Stadium

   12. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 06, 2018 at 08:17 PM (#5634721)
Musial Grounds
   13. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili (TeddyF.Ballgame) Posted: March 06, 2018 at 08:29 PM (#5634723)
SportStan's Park
   14. Tin Angel Posted: March 06, 2018 at 08:45 PM (#5634724)
Bud Light Lime of Anheuser-Busch Ballpark
   15. Greg Pope Posted: March 06, 2018 at 09:05 PM (#5634726)
I’ve been vehemently opposed to corporate names for this exercise. But this can really be considered to named after a person, so I’m ok with Busch Stadium. Same will go for the park on the north side of Chicago.

Gateway park is nice, too, though.
   16. cardsfanboy Posted: March 06, 2018 at 10:33 PM (#5634749)
Busch Stadium is the only option.
   17. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: March 06, 2018 at 11:38 PM (#5634751)
I can’t imagine not calling it Busch stadium.
   18. . . . . . . Posted: March 07, 2018 at 07:38 AM (#5634778)
   19. Perry Posted: March 07, 2018 at 12:44 PM (#5634945)
Like #15, it's not really a corporate name in the sense of some random company buying naming rights, so I'm fine with Busch.

According to Bill Veeck the brewery, personified by Augie Busch, saved the Cardinals for St. Louis by buying them in 1953 when they were on the verge of being sold to a group who planned on moving them to Houston. Veeck had figured he and his Browns had won the battle for St. Louis until the Busch people stepped up; but he knew he couldn't compete with A-B money and sold the Browns to Baltimore interests, who immediately moved them instead. In short, Busch Stadium forever!
   20. Omineca Greg Posted: March 09, 2018 at 10:01 PM (#5636348)
It's Busch though! I like bland beer, but even for me, Budweiser is beyond the pale.

It's got rice in it...that's not good. It's everybody's right to make and drink beer that's got rice in it, but we shouldn't go out of our ways to honour those people...they should be satisfied that we're not punching them. C'mon guys! Have you seriously never heard of Reinheitsgebot? If not, check it out.

Do you see "rice is a good ingredient" in there? Or "beer should be pimped by frogs and a bull terrier"? I mean, I feel bad, because I'm not a beer snob, for Chrissakes, I'm enjoying a Carlsberg right now, and that's practically the Budweiser of Europe. But some things are just too much.

Like, why not name it after local favourite son, "William S. Burroughs Stadium". Everybody likes Tarzan! Everything is all sex and drugs these days, let's bring back good old fashioned values for once.

No? You want a sexy name still...OK, Sally Rand Park it is. She's way better than that other Rand chick who has unfortunately overshadowed Sally; we'd have to call it Sally Rand Park, if you just called it Rand Park, well, first off the Royals would sue, because they have the exclusive rights to be the Official MLB Fountainhead in Missouri, but worse than that, you ever had an Objectivist hot dog? I have...[shakes head sadly]

But Sally Rand, who is from some nearby hick town that doesn't exist anymore, well, you watch this video, I think her memory is worth honouring. I think she's the reason they call it the "Show Me State". All the way from 1942, (incidentally the year the Cardinals won the Series, Mort Cooper kicked everybody's ass and won the MVP, and Musial's first full season, so an auspicious year already for Cardinals fans, and believe me, it's about to get even better), "Fan Dance".

Before I link this, I have to give a warning. This clip is probably safe for work, however, if it were me, I'd be much more comfortable watching at home. It's hot, 1942 hot, granted, but still, use your discretion.

Sally Rand Fan Dance 1942

If you would rather honour some second rate brewer over that, then that's your prerogative. But if the committee gives me the chance, I know who I'm voting for.

Or go with the Tarzan guy. Either or.
   21. cardsfanboy Posted: March 09, 2018 at 10:19 PM (#5636353)
I love you Omineca Greg.... but let's be honest with history...

Busch Stadium literally got it's name because MLB told Auggie Busch that they would not allow a stadium to be named after a corporation, he wanted to re-name Sportsman park Budweiser stadium(and no, I'm not kidding about this) so he named it after himself.... he then created Busch Beer in response to that rejection from MLB..... so not only does the name Busch Stadium have the hilarious irony of it being named so because MLB didn't approve of corporate marketing, but on top of that it has a big ass middle finger flung in the face of MLB for refusing to do so.
   22. Omineca Greg Posted: March 10, 2018 at 01:09 PM (#5636453)
I love you Omineca Greg...

Oh, that's great. I like being loved.
...but let's be honest with history

Oh, damn! It was one of those "I love you...but..." things. I should have seen that coming, I get that one a lot. It's better than, "I hate you...and..." which fortunately I don't get too much of.

Interesting story...I didn't know that about the naming. That is hilariously ironic. How times change.
   23. cardsfanboy Posted: March 10, 2018 at 09:14 PM (#5636530)
Interesting story...I didn't know that about the naming. That is hilariously ironic. How times change.

The reason Auggie Busch is beloved in St Louis is things like that. Add in his naivete at times on how the world work and his reaction to the times.... In the 60's the black Cardinal players had to stay at a separate motel for spring training than the white players, when Busch heard of this(and a potential boycott of his beer product because of this) he forced the hotel to allow inclusion. (at the same time he believed in the benevolent owner and was offended when players "betrayed" him by asking for more money, in his mind he rewarded people fairly and when Flood or Carlton thought they deserved more, he would get upset and try and trade them.) But ultimately he was much more a force for good in baseball than he was bad and from the city viewpoint he did a good job, even the crappy 70's never featured a last place team. (heck it would take a hand picked whitey herzog team that finished in last place for the most recent time since 1917....and even that guy is loved in this city)
   24. Panik on the streets of Flushing! (Trout! Trout!) Posted: March 12, 2018 at 08:52 AM (#5636766)
"William S. Burroughs Stadium".

William S. Burroughs is fantastic (and from St. Louis) but he had nothing to do with Tarzan. Edgar Rice Burroughs is the Tarzan guy but he was from California. I love the idea of naming a baseball stadium after William S. Burroughs though.
   25. Omineca Greg Posted: March 12, 2018 at 12:55 PM (#5636912)
Yeah, sorry about that.

I just started reading The Wild Boys last night, thinking it was going to be a YA novel about Tarzan being younger and making some friends. He always seemed so lonely, swinging through the jungle all by himself, so I was really looking forward to it.

I thought it would be like Muppet Babies. Or Baby Donald Makes A Snowfriend.

It was nothing like Muppet Babies.

It was a little bit like Baby Donald Makes A Snowfriend, in that none of the major characters wore pants. Except in Donald Duck's case, you're just supposed to not notice...Apparently in William S. Burroughs, not wearing pants is important, some would say vital, to advancing the plot. Oh, there may very well be sailor suits too. I haven't got that far, but it seems like the type of book that sailors might be in.

Oh well, $10 down the drain. I'm still waiting for my travel book that I need for my upcoming trip to Helsinki. I figured I got the best one out there, he's so famous he only uses his first name (probably partially because the last one is unpronounceable to non-Finns). Anyway, Tom of Finland is coming in the post this afternoon.

On a related topic. Do any of you guys order your books off of Amazon? I do, but after my last two purchases, I've been getting all these unusual "You may be interested in..." suggestions. Not that there's anything wrong with that, and I'm sure Chuck Tingle writes good books, but it's just...not my thing. Oh well, I'm sure it will all sort itself out.
   26. Panik on the streets of Flushing! (Trout! Trout!) Posted: March 12, 2018 at 01:53 PM (#5636977)
It was a little bit like Baby Donald Makes A Snowfriend, in that none of the major characters wore pants. Except in Donald Duck's case, you're just supposed to not notice...Apparently in William S. Burroughs, not wearing pants is important, some would say vital, to advancing the plot. Oh, there may very well be sailor suits too. I haven't got that far, but it seems like the type of book that sailors might be in.

   27. Omineca Greg Posted: March 12, 2018 at 02:36 PM (#5637015)
Yeah, I'm a horrible troll. And by "horrible" I mean I'm not good at it, and don't want to be good at it. I'm never trying to fool people by what I post, I'm acting like an idiot for some kind of effect, usually comic, but sometimes for other reasons. So when the joke gets missed, I feel bad because it means I haven't written the joke well enough that it's understood.

The Burroughs/Burroughs joke dates back to when I was in high school in the mid 80s, and beginning to read counter culture works. At the Vancouver Public Library, all the William S. Burroughs novels except Naked Lunch were kept in the stacks, so if you wanted to take one of his other books out, you had to fill out a request slip and go way to the back of the library, where there was a desk with a librarian. You would hand her the slip, and she'd go even further back in the library, come back with your book, fill out some paperwork, and give it to you. I always went to the library on the same day, and at the same time, so I always got the same librarian, a very nice lady, probably in her late 50s. So after taking out Junky, and Soft Machine and other books, she had come to recognise me, and finally said to me one day, "It's nice to see youth interested in classic literature. Those Tarzan stories will never get old, so much of what passes as literature these days is trash." Well, I thought that was pretty funny back in 1984, and so here it gets re-cycled almost 35 years later.
   28. PepTech Posted: March 12, 2018 at 02:45 PM (#5637022)
"acting"? ;D
   29. Omineca Greg Posted: March 12, 2018 at 02:47 PM (#5637023)
"acting"? ;D

People say I've got a natural talent.
   30. Panik on the streets of Flushing! (Trout! Trout!) Posted: March 12, 2018 at 02:56 PM (#5637027)
On the contrary, I am impressed! The slow build-up that might not even get caught by anyone followed by the payoff of having someone not sharp enough to realize that the mistake was intentional is the perfect trap. If no one catches it, you laugh to yourself. If someone like me deigns to be a know-it-all and corrects you, you have that library story to back up the punchline. I can appreciate intelligent trolling. :)

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