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Thursday, March 24, 2022

Tapia traded to Blue Jays; Rox get Grichuk in return

The Blue Jays are set to acquire outfielder Raimel Tapia and infielder/outfielder Adrian Pinto from the Rockies for Randal Grichuk and cash, a source told MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand on Thursday. The clubs have not confirmed.

In six seasons with Colorado, Tapia batted .280 with 45 stolen bases and 71 doubles. Grichuk heads to Colorado after four years in Toronto, where he racked up 90 homers and 257 RBIs in 479 games.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 24, 2022 at 01:35 PM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: blue jay, raimel tapia, randal grichuk, rockies

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   1. JimMusComp misses old primer... Posted: March 24, 2022 at 02:00 PM (#6068913)
Grichuk is basically Dante Bichette light. Big power, low OBP....he should benefit from playing in Coors. And Tapia figures to better serve the Jays as a versatile, fast bench piece. Good move for both teams, methinks.
   2. Tom Nawrocki Posted: March 24, 2022 at 02:59 PM (#6068923)
Tapia is a ridiculously fun player to watch, with his dreads and his daring on the bases and his swagger. He's kind of a Lou Brock type, playing at the wrong time for his skill set. He's not really much more than a fourth outfielder, but I'll miss him.
   3. Walt Davis Posted: March 24, 2022 at 03:21 PM (#6068928)
Grrr ... b-r's 40-man rosters have been missing for a few days now. What's Toronto's OF at the moment? Grichuk is nothing special but he's a league average full-time CF which is nothing to sneeze at either. Tapia ... well let's say very poor man's Vince Coleman or late-career Juan Pierre seems a more reasonable wishcast than Lou Brock. Pinto is a Dominican kid, turning 19 who did tear it up in the Dominican kids league so looks like an appealing lottery ticket.

Anyway, if Grichuk is a genuine spare part (seems unlikely) and the Jays have some use for whatever money they are saving here, then fine. But this trade should work out well for the Rox.
   4. Der-K's tired of these fruits from poisoned trees Posted: March 24, 2022 at 03:25 PM (#6068929)
i strongly recommend the roster resource section of the fangraphs website. martinez does great work there.
   5. Tom Nawrocki Posted: March 24, 2022 at 04:03 PM (#6068940)
Tapia ... well let's say very poor man's Vince Coleman or late-career Juan Pierre seems a more reasonable wishcast than Lou Brock.


Boy, people really don't like it when I compare current players to older ones. I called Tapia a "Lou Brock type," which he is. He's a very fast left fielder whose speed doesn't translate into good defense. At the plate, he's got the same balance of BA/OBP/SLG that Brock had - just knock 15 points off all three of Brock's figures, and you get Tapia. Tap's got more power than Coleman or Pierre ever had, even accounting for the ballpark.

Tapia's also 28 years old, so I'm not "wishcasting" anything. He is what he is.
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 24, 2022 at 04:10 PM (#6068941)
Kinda intriguing trade that benefits both teams. Grichuk could benefit from Coors and TOR is sending some money. Tapia is fun and could be a useful bench piece for a contender, plus Toronto gets an interesting 18-year old in Adrian Pino who walks and has blazing speed.

Is Grichuk moving to RF for Colorado? They just signed Bryant for LF and I don't think he can play CF anymore.
   7. Harmon "Thread Killer" Microbrew Posted: March 24, 2022 at 05:28 PM (#6068952)
What's Toronto's OF at the moment?


Current roster

Starters: Gurriel Jr., Springer, Teo Hernandez

Other: Tapia, Josh Palacios, Cavan Biggio
   8. The Duke Posted: March 24, 2022 at 06:11 PM (#6068958)
4. Agree. The roster resource section of fangraphs is great. I half wonder whether teams aren't subsidizing fangraphs To do this work. It's not something you should want to insource and fangraphs is really easy to navigate. I don't know how they keep it all updated but I've never seen it out of date
   9. Paul D(uda) Posted: March 24, 2022 at 06:20 PM (#6068963)
Mallex Smith is also in camp with the Jays. I think this is a great trade for them.
   10. Perry Posted: March 24, 2022 at 06:34 PM (#6068965)
Is Grichuk moving to RF for Colorado? They just signed Bryant for LF and I don't think he can play CF anymore.


If he can't that's a bad deal for them. I think they're planning on him splitting CF with Hilliard, maybe moving to RF when Blackmon DH's.
   11. Jack Sommers Posted: March 24, 2022 at 07:34 PM (#6068970)
Raimel Tapia.......... PA.. BA.. OBP. SLG. OPS
Vs. Diamondbacks. 221 .350 .388 .461 .849
Vs. Everyone Else 1425 .280 .325 .395 .721

Thank GOD he's not only out of the NL west, but out of the NL altogether.
   12. sunday silence (again) Posted: March 24, 2022 at 09:31 PM (#6068979)
I called Tapia a "Lou Brock type," which he is.


It made sense. Nice comp.
   13. Dr. Pooks Posted: March 25, 2022 at 02:22 PM (#6069051)
Another angle to this trade is that Toronto has built a great lineup and roster that is way too right-handed.

The only regular who hits from the left side expected to get any starts is Cavan Biggio at 2B. And his spot isn't 100% secure at this point either.

The Jays starting OF of Gurriel Jr-Springer-Hernandez are all RHH.

As is Bichette, Guerrero Jr, Matt Chapman and both of their likely catchers.

The Jays are likely looking for some LHH 4th OF and utility man PAs even if they have to sacrifice some quality.
   14. Ron J Posted: March 26, 2022 at 09:57 AM (#6069170)
#13 The Jays did something similar quite a few years ago.

It's an interesting way of taking on the endless bullpen parade if done intentionally. You select RH hitters good enough to play and negate all situational lefties. Yeah, less important given current usage restrictions, but still likely to put some odd stresses on the opposing bullpen over the course of a series. There are going to be a few pitchers in their bullpen with no real use case.
   15. sunday silence (again) Posted: March 26, 2022 at 10:10 AM (#6069171)

The Jays are likely looking for some LHH 4th OF and utility man PAs even if they have to sacrifice some quality.


does that really make any sense? If say someone bats 40 pts higher vs RHP and they do that say 400 AB. Say 7 runs of offense.

But they give up 6 runs on def. and say 1 on baserunning. So that's a push right? I mean there's no advantage to building your lineup that way instead of getting another RHB who's just as valuable.
   16. Dr. Pooks Posted: March 26, 2022 at 03:47 PM (#6069213)
does that really make any sense? If say someone bats 40 pts higher vs RHP and they do that say 400 AB. Say 7 runs of offense.


I think it's probably a question whether you value long-term analytics vs lack of flexibility in specific high leverage situations.

The Jays have tilted very RHH to an absurd degree even dating back to their Donaldson-Bautista-Encarnacion days.

There's certainly been times even back then when you also had a RHH supporting cast of Tulowitzki and Russell Martin where you have a sabermetric juggernaut of an offense, but you underperform in close-and-late situations consistently because your awesome lineup has no counter to late game RH relievers who destroy righties.

The current iteration of the Jays doesn't have much depth or on the farm from the left side of the plate.

Their 3rd catcher, Reese McGuire hits LH but is pretty anemic. There's not much ready on the farm at all, let alone LHH.

Their preferred utility guy, Santiago Espinal, also hits RH.

There's talk that Greg Bird might make the team simply because he hits LH.
   17. Snowboy Posted: March 27, 2022 at 12:26 AM (#6069259)
More Blue Jays news:

Blue Jays pitching coach Pete Walker arrested and charged with DUI

March 26 - [...] An arrest affidavit obtained by Sportsnet alleged Walker was stopped at approximately 12:06 a.m. ET Friday morning [in Florida] after being clocked on a radar gun driving 82 mph in a 45 mph zone. The affidavit says Walker refused a breath alcohol content test but showed signs of impairment and failed field sobriety tests.

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