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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Wednesday, March 27, 2013The Baseball Show with Rany and Joe - Division PreviewsSorry for the length, but I wanted to write summaries since I know not everyone will listen to these (it’s a little under 5.5 hours total). West • AL: HOU - Rany predicts 58 wins, Joe 52. Joe points out that previously historically horrible teams were worse defensively. SEA - Rany predicts 77 wins. Joe thinks the stadium dimension changes will hurt more than help; Rany is unsure, thinking that perhaps it will help their young hitters develop. LAA - Both like the re-introduction of Bourjos. They think Pujols will maintain his 2012 level, and that the bullpen will be good. Rany predicts 92-93 wins; Joe fewer. OAK - Rany is skeptical of Nakajima. They observe that it’s been difficult to project Japanese players. Both think the team will generally regress. Joe: “Jed Lowrie is not a shortstop”; “Tom Milone is Italian for Jeff Ballard.” TEX - Joe thinks they “lost the offseason”, but still likes their remaining talent a lot. Rany wonders whether the value of Profar and Olt will be wasted. Rany picks LAA to win the division, Joe TEX. • NL: COL - They hate the pitching. Joe thinks the organization has placed character above ability, e.g. Cuddyer. They’re skeptical of Weiss’ inexperience. Joe says he (Joe) could add five wins with managerial decisions. Rany predicts 72 wins, Joe 68. ARI - Both hate the team’s offseason moves. Joe calls Cliff Pennington “Chad.” They like the rotation. They discuss the unpredictability of “chemistry.” LAD - They question many of the veterans and agree that the payroll is being spent inefficiently, but hey, it’s a really big payroll. SF - Rany thinks they can win 90-92. Joe thinks they have the “highest floor” in the division. SD - Rany thinks they’re not much better than the Rockies. Joe likes Black’s managing, and the mid-20s average age; he loves the team’s upside. Rany thinks the rotation doesn’t cut it. Rany picks ARI to win the division, Joe SD. Rany thinks it’s very close between ARI, LAD, SF. Joe thinks no team in the division will win 90. • A weird discussion about a March Madness-esque single-game elimination tournament among MLB teams. Rany: TOR, TB, NYY, BAL, BOS Joe: TOR, TB, NYY, BOS, BAL • Spring training: They both think it’s too long. Rany: CIN, STL, CHC, PIT, MIL Joe: CIN, STL, MIL, CHC, PIT Rany & Joe: DET, KC, CHW, CLE, MIN The District Attorney
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1. Flynn Posted: March 27, 2013 at 04:25 PM (#4397859)What a stupid comparison. The two have precisely nothing in common besides being RHH 3B for the Boston Red Sox. Does he go on to compare Ichiro to David Justice?
i like that people are predicting kc for 2nd in the central, i agree with that and have been predicting it (if they got a starter) since november. hopefully they will stroke my ego and do it after they made the gutsy move and got shields.
i'm kinda hoping that the three horrible teams they talked about (hou, min, mia) are as bad as advertised. for one, it would be annoying if their futility story was just a marketing exaggeration. but more, i think it will be interesting, in its own way, to see a team on pace for record losses. i bet one of them will be late into the season, but will get some wins at the end from other teams packing it in. probably houston or miami, minnesota will probably be slightly better as long as mauer's in there, and miami might well trade somebody. houston has no hitting and is in a tough division, but as they said, their defense is better than most historically bad teams. they'll probably get some late wins after seattle is out of the race, like miami might against the mets if they haven't shipped stanton. of course, if mauer or stanton goes down we might be in for some history.
I would not be at all shocked in the Cubs lose 100 games again, and I would be significantly shocked if they top 70-75 wins.
The problem with the show is indeed the lack of an editor (or a hard-and-fast agenda that someone puts together before each episode). Joe is capable of spending an hour saying the same thing over and over (which I think he literally did, in two consecutive episodes, during the Trout vs. Cabrera saga). Maybe he is practicing to take over from Colin Cowherd.
So if there are several interesting things to talk about, the show is interesting. If there aren't, the show isn't interesting. Not great for something that only airs once a week. There should always be at least an hour's worth of interesting material per week.
That's my biggest pet peeve about podcasts. You're not as funny as you think you are. Stay on topic. There is this movie podcast - I forget the name, but the guys are obviously knowledgeable about movies and love movies, but its unlistenable because every five minutes they try to crack a joke or go off on a stupid tangent for a few minutes.
That's what drives me nuts about the Slate Podcasts in front of live audiences - they try to be funny for the crowd and get off subject all the time.
Anyway, they're both fairly optimistic about the Royals. Will have to listen tonight.
Uh, really? The one guy who hits .290 and doesn't walk has NOTHING in common with the other guy who hits .290 and doesn't walk?
that is common to almost all podcasts. listen to econtalk if you want minimal humor. Ha, ha
Filmspotting?
I'm a podcast addict, and now that I'm back in marathon training I need more. I already have a bunch of news, comedy, economics podcasts, but I need a couple of baseball ones. I'm sure they're out there. Recs? Anything mariners or Red Sox related appreciated in particular
Battleship Pretension?
That's what Rany and Joe remind me of. It's just two guys, there's no sound effects or music cues or evidence of editing, and they go on for somewhere between 80 and 110 minutes every time. They are very insightful though.
Filmspotting is, if anything, overly edited. They should spend MORE time talking about the movie that is ostensibly the subject of the episode, but they cram in too many of their regular little segments that are usually very similar from week to week.
I don't listen to any podcasts at all. Do you have any recommendations for good podcasts regardless of topic/genre?
EDIT: Actually, I take that back. I worked with a guy that listened to a finance podcast from NPR (I think), so I've heard that a few times.
NPR's Wait Wait Don't Tell Me is available each week in podcast form, on Sundays. That's another fave.
I podcast Kornheiser's radio show out of DC, but acknowledge that's not for everyone.
If you want to get into podcasts I suggest an app like Stitcher (free) that will let you pick a show, then start giving you suggestions for other shows similar to it that you might like.
harvey's recommended podcasts:
--econtalk
--backstory (u.s. history)
--wall street journal editors pick
--npr planet money
--motley fool
--freakanomics
econtalk is fascinating stuff at times. really encourage folks to check it out. backstory is just fun.
and to the twerps, yes twerps you got it right, who want to list 1303 reasons why freakanomics is dumb or facile or flawed or whatever you are just being difficult. at minimum the listener gets challenged to find the flaws in the thinking. and guess what, you think. you use that thing 3 feet above your 8ss.
folks who mock discussions that can be both fun and provoke a little thought always hack me off if you can't tell. if you don't want to think go live in st louis
-- MWE
Right now the Cubs have absolutely no back up for the middle infield, Valbuena as the probable starter at third with Stewart as the projected back up (though he won't be available to start the season), Clevenger the possible back up at first, Castillo as the starting catcher, DeJesus as the center fielder, Schierholtz as the starting right fielder, Garza not healthy, a bunch of question marks at the back end of the rotation, and the bullpen is largely the same pen they had last year plus Fujikawa. If they get to 78 wins it will be a miracle.
fangraphs would be better if it were not for castulli. i gather he has a cult following of some kind but you want a guy in love with his own voice holy sh8t he buries the needle. i can only hang in for the discussions with david because castulli knows enough to shut up and let the smarter guy speak
i have made my opinions known of the joe element of rany and joe so won't bore the reader
Jonah keri used to do good podcasts. he stopped some time ago though i hear he pops up every so often on grantland.
Without question, the best comedy/news podcast out there is "The Bugle", which is John Oliver (the English guy from The Daily Show) and his old comedy partner, Andy Zimmerman. It actually does a better job than Oliver's TV show of taking an oppositional approach to the news and making it hilarious.
I listen to "Harmontown", which is a weird improv comedy show starring the writer of "Community" & "The Sarah Silverman Program" and his best friend, a veteran improv comic. It's better than it sounds. Very funny, and the star is a weird genius.
I also listen to Dan Carlin's "Hardcore History", which is a very in-depth history show. He did a 5-episode, 10-hour series on the Mongol Kahns; he also did a 7-episode, 18-hour one on the fall of the Roman Republic.
"Backstory with the American History Guys" recontextualizes current events with three history profs from Virginia who give you the background. Recently they've done histories of climate control (ie, cloud seeding in the 19th century, etc), marriage (arranged marriage in revolutionary America, gender roles in 1970s marriages, etc), and a history of guns in America.
There are probably a dozen more than that, but those are the ones I'd recommend to people who may not share the same interests in me.
Agreed.
agreed
2. C-Span Q&A. (Just trust me on this one)
3. My History Can Beat Up Your Politics
EconTalk is pretty good, but listen to enough of them and you realize that the divorce rate jump of 70s-present day is Roberts' explanation for pretty much every phenomenon you'd care to name
As long as you can handle 45 minutes of Gleeman whining every episode about the Kevin Correia signing.
Yes.
Podcasts I regularly listen to:
-Slate Culture/Political/Sports Gabfests
-NPR Cocktail Hour
-Freakonomics
-Motley Fool
-Planey Money
-Hollywood Prospectus on Grantland
-WTF with Marc Maron
-BS Report if the guest is Cousin Sal or Jonah Keri or Nate Silver
Will have to check on Econtalk, thanks.
You Bet Your Garden
RadioLab
In the Groove, Jazz and Beyond
Roots Rock Radio (only quarterly any more)
Shorter
Freakonomics
Economist
99% Invisible
Limited Series
History of the World in 100 Objects (BBC)
Norman Centuries by Lars Brownworth
The Sonny Rollins Podcast
Always listen to:
Superego, WTF, Comedy Bang Bang, The Memory Palace, This American Life, Freakonomics, Hang Up And Listen, The Bugle, Judge John Hodgman, The Smartest Man In The World, The Pod F. Tompkast, Baseball America, The Moth, The Dana Gould Hour, Best Show Gems, The Basketball Jones, Welcome To Night Vale, Improv4Humans
From Time To Time:
The Fogelnest Files, Who Charted?, Jordan, Jesse Go!, Yo Is This Racist?, Sklarbro Country, Doug Loves Movies, The Nerdist, Wits, Rafflecast, Walking The Room, Mental Illness Happy Hour, By The Way, Shots Fired, Sound Opinions, Put Your Hands Together, Todd Glass Show, Risk!, Call Chelsea Peretti, Harmontown, JV Club, Stuff You Should Know, How Was Your Week, Stuff You Missed In History Class, The Thrilling Adventure Hour, Girl On Guy
About To Try:
The Organist, Marginal Prospects
Best sports podcast is Hang Up and Listen. Favorite comedy podcast is Superego (improvised skits), though they're erratic at releasing eps.
Seconded.
For layman-oriented history stuff, I also recommend Mike Duncan's "The History of Rome." He did about 160 20-or-so-minute episodes until giving it up last year when he reached right about 476 A.D.
It's less horrifically thin that it was (although I didn't realize Garza was having issues). Adding Jackson, Baker, Feldman and Villanueva is a lot of depth and Travis Wood is not scary. A lot is riding on SPJ repeating. At least on paper this is a major league staff which is better than last year. 3B remains a complete suckhole and depth is not good. But a long-term injury to Rizzo presumably sees Hairston, Schierholtz and Jackson into "full-time" roles rather than Clevenger. A middle infield injury would be pretty disastrous.
I don't expect them to lose 100 this year, I'll peg them at 70 wins although I risk that falling apart after the trade deadline dump.
Because velocity matters and results don't.
I think you would like Intelligence Squared.
Last year's Cubs had 50 combined starts from the following pitchers: Chris Volstad, Justin Germano, Chris Rusin, Casey Coleman, Brooks Raley, and Jason Berken. They went 13-37 in those games. Throw in 1-3 in Randy Wells's starts and that's a third of the team's games with a winning percentage barely north of .250.
Feldman and Villanueva may not be much, but they're quite a bit better than those guys, and they're probably starters 6 and 7 on a healthy Cubs staff (not counting Vizcaino). That's the main reason I think this year's team will be a good bit better than last year's, at least before the likely firesale you mention.
It is very funny.
Neither will take a walk and both are/were Red Sox. If Middlebrooks hits .290 he'll accompany it with 35 home runs. Middlebrooks twin is more likely Chris Davis than Hillenbrand.
Agree.
So of course WAS will now lose 105 games.
Of course they are, but... so? As the saying goes, desperate times call for desperate measures. Panicking is a perfectly legitimate response to having no LF, RF, 1B, C. Wells is useful every two or three years and it's only money. It wouldn't be shocking for him to hit to a 120 OPS+, and if he doesn't, then can use him as Joe suggests.
I agree, and in fact made this same point myself last week.
I agree :-)
I too enjoy the show.
To do that he'd basically have to repeat his best 250 PAs of the last 1400. And to do _that_, his last 250 PAs (of which only his last 150 or so were any good) must represent his true ability level as rebounded. Or Yankee Stadium's short RF must have turned a singles hitting slap hitter into a ~15 HR hitter. I find either possibility unlikely.
IMO, of course.
I mean, he's reached 15 HR once in 12 years.
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