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Saturday, October 26, 2019

The Cincinnati Reds are turning the press box into luxury seating

Several years ago the Chicago White Sox put in a new press box down the right field line and turned the old one — right behind home plate — into luxury seating. This angered a lot of the working press who, for understandable reasons, like to be behind home plate to do their jobs of covering baseball games.

When the stink arose, Bud Selig told the Baseball Writers Association of America that he heard them loud and clear and that no team would be allowed to do that again. Since then the Angels, the Blue Jays and a couple of others have moved their press boxes out to the outfield and turned the former press boxes into luxury seating.

I know, I’m as shocked as you are that Bud Selig’s word was not kept. I’m not sure what to believe anymore!

Add one more team to the list. The Cincinnati Reds:

If we’re going to move the press box, why not put it on a track and have it go wherever the press wish for it to go?

 

QLE Posted: October 26, 2019 at 12:09 AM | 23 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: press box, reds

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   1. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 26, 2019 at 11:07 AM (#5894865)
Most baseball owners are scum, of the classic kiss-up / kick-down variety.
   2. Captain Supporter Posted: October 26, 2019 at 12:53 PM (#5894881)
Given the nonsense that generally passes for baseball 'journalism', the press could do their job by watching the game from anywhere. Which, if you both to actually read the article is exactly what the writer says.
   3. DL from MN Posted: October 28, 2019 at 09:51 AM (#5895360)
I have no problem with this. They might do their job just as well if they are located off-site with a closed circuit TV hookup until they have to do post-game interviews.
   4. PreservedFish Posted: October 28, 2019 at 10:02 AM (#5895365)
Yes, I'd like to hear a good argument that the press requires plum seating.

I wouldn't want the press to watch everything on television - there should at least be a nod towards journalistic independence and the public's right to know, and one wouldn't want teams or the league to be able to add some kind of filter between a writer and the actual game. But still, they basically work at MLB's pleasure by providing free advertising for an entertainment product, so I won't get carried away with that idea.

   5. DJS Thinks Apples and Oranges are Similar Posted: October 28, 2019 at 10:04 AM (#5895366)
Bah, the current press box is one of the best positioned in baseball!

At least we aren't being moved into the clouds like in Pittsburgh and DC.

It definitely sucks for the writers that do bits on the radio or TV. Those aren't moving, so it's quite a hike back and forth.
   6. DJS Thinks Apples and Oranges are Similar Posted: October 28, 2019 at 10:40 AM (#5895389)
Here's the view from the current press box from where I typically sit.
   7. Howie Menckel Posted: October 28, 2019 at 12:40 PM (#5895437)
Yes, I'd like to hear a good argument that the press requires plum seating.

"requires" is a heavy word.

but NBA writers sat courtside up through the 1990s. on any given night, you might be able to hear the coaches talking to the players during a timeout. you could hear what disgruntled players were yelling at each other on the court - and what they said to earn (or not earn) that technical foul.

you could hear Larry Bird not-otherwise-so-noticeably being the league's consummate non-stop trash talker. when a player left a game due to injury, you might hear him tell the trainer his guesstimate of the injury. what was that fan in the front row yelling that got him ejected? what did the celebrity tell the player during a break that made the player laugh? you could hear it.

some of these items could be cleared up post-game, but in the pre-internet era, many people only received a first-edition story - anything else would arrive on their doorstep 24 hours later.

were those stories made more interesting by that access? yes, in most cases. but "requires? " - I mean, one can say writers aren't even required to attend the game, or ever speak to the players. the stories will be pretty lifeless, in most cases, but.....
   8. vortex of dissipation Posted: October 28, 2019 at 02:18 PM (#5895478)
The official scorer sits in the press box. Will he be moved also? That could make his life a bit harder.
   9. vortex of dissipation Posted: October 28, 2019 at 02:20 PM (#5895479)
Duplicate
   10. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: October 28, 2019 at 02:30 PM (#5895481)
to what extent does the scorer now rely on video anyway? (i have no idea)
   11. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 28, 2019 at 02:32 PM (#5895483)
Here's the view from the current press box from where I typically sit.
Can you see the squirrels? And are they merry?
   12. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 28, 2019 at 02:38 PM (#5895486)
At least we aren't being moved into the clouds like in Pittsburgh and DC.


Where is the press seating at PNC?
   13. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 28, 2019 at 08:23 PM (#5895566)
The brewers radio guys talk about the steep trek at PNC. I forgot to look for it when I visited.
   14. DJS Thinks Apples and Oranges are Similar Posted: October 29, 2019 at 04:14 AM (#5895607)
At the very top of the stadium!
   15. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 29, 2019 at 02:52 PM (#5895738)
Behind home plate, or off on one of the sides?
   16. Nasty Nate Posted: October 29, 2019 at 02:55 PM (#5895741)
Based on a google image search, it seems like behind home plate - maybe a touch toward the 3b side.
   17. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: October 29, 2019 at 02:59 PM (#5895744)
I am extremely happy that the press is being moved to poorer seats. What does a good seat add to their ability to cover the game?
   18. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 29, 2019 at 03:09 PM (#5895747)

#7/Howie - makes sense as to why there's a benefit to sitting courtside at an NBA game or behind the dugout in MLB. I wonder if it really matters that much once you're in a press box.

I am extremely happy that the press is being moved to poorer seats. What does a good seat add to their ability to cover the game?

Extreme happiness seems like a strange reaction to news like this.
   19. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 29, 2019 at 03:32 PM (#5895753)
Ah, well, that's OK. Good sight lines for the game, at least.
   20. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: October 29, 2019 at 03:37 PM (#5895754)
I'd rather have fans in those seats than journalists.

I hate tuning into basketball games and seeing journalists ignore the game from great seats.

They can sit in the outfield watching on a monitor, then walk down to the clubhouse and get their quotes.
   21. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 29, 2019 at 04:27 PM (#5895769)
I'd rather have fans in those seats than journalists.


Attendance at Pirates games is low enough that there are usually plenty of unsold seats in the same area. Even though IMO it's the best value proposition in the park.
   22. DJS Thinks Apples and Oranges are Similar Posted: October 31, 2019 at 05:19 PM (#5897558)
I won't claim there to be any pressing objective reasons for us to have those sweet seats.

But I *do* like those seats. They're great. And if you have a press badge, the elevator guy will stop off at the media floor before dropping off anyone fans who are using the elevator, which feels gloriously dickish.
   23. Howie Menckel Posted: October 31, 2019 at 10:13 PM (#5897616)
if you have a press badge, the elevator guy will stop off at the media floor before dropping off anyone fans who are using the elevator, which feels gloriously dickish.

at Super Bowls, if you get in an elevator waiting to go up or down - even with an investigated-six-ways-to-Sunday all-access pass media badge - they will roust you out if any owners are about to get in. can't have the swells mixing with the riff raff, even though I knew one of the owners pretty well.

I mean, hasn't everyone seen Titanic?

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