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 The Cooperstown Case for Yadier Molina, Russell Martin, and Brian McCann - The Ringer

Isn’t this a little early for Hall of Fame discussions? The World Series isn’t over yet.

Jim Furtado Posted: October 09, 2019 at 07:20 PM | 109 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: brian mccann, hall of fame, russell martin, yadier molina

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   101. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: October 13, 2019 at 02:45 PM (#5890101)
Molina has two key attributes which make him a no-brainer. 100 post season games plus appearances in multiple series with different teams (different players).

Sounds like you are describing Jorge Posada.
   102. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 13, 2019 at 03:11 PM (#5890106)
Molina has two key attributes which make him a no-brainer. 100 post season games plus appearances in multiple series with different teams (different players).
Yadier Molina in postseason: 96 games, .275/.326/.349, .675 OPS; Jorge Posada: 125 games, .248/.358/.387, .745 OPS.
   103. spycake Posted: October 14, 2019 at 12:26 PM (#5890363)
Franchise bests for St. Louis really aren't that hard.

How about St. Louis Browns? :)

Or St. Louis Cardinals -- the football team?
   104. QLE Posted: October 14, 2019 at 01:24 PM (#5890375)
How about St. Louis Browns?

George Sisler, Bobby Wallace, and Urban Shocker- all of whom are still in the franchise's top eight in WAR, even after 55 years in Baltimore (which might be telling about the team's history in that city otherwise....)
   105. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: October 14, 2019 at 02:24 PM (#5890392)
Yadi and Mauer have completely opposite narratives.

Yadi is a warrior who has started nearly 2000 games at catcher while helping the Cardinals advance to 5* World Series appearances.

Mauer is a great hitter who started only 850 games at catcher, piling up 3 batting titles while the Twins went 0-10 in playoff games.

Old school voters will love Yadi. New school voters will love Joe.
   106. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: October 14, 2019 at 03:03 PM (#5890399)
105--kind of does both players an undersell. Molina has nine gold gloves and nine trips to the asg while mauer has 3 and 6 respectively. Mauer has four top ten MVP finishes while Molina has two. Not listing the data accomplishments. Just sharing how the players were seemingly viewed by others.

And really, from this perspective either both guys are in or out. Everyone watching the game thought both were great players. Isn't that what the hof is about, recognizing great players??
   107. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 14, 2019 at 04:35 PM (#5890417)
As a Mets fan, I will forever think of Yadier as the awful hitter who somehow hit the GW-HR in game 7 of the 2006 NLCS. The fact that he became a good hitter a few years later took a bit of the sting off of it, but not much. But yeah, even when he was terrible, he still had some playoff mojo.
   108. Moses Taylor, glorified meat shield Posted: October 14, 2019 at 04:54 PM (#5890422)
Which young (under 30) catchers would you consider major stars right now (i.e. possible future HOFers)?

In addition to Realmuto and Grandal (not under 30), Contreras should probably be mentioned. He got a later start (didn't switch to C until several years into his ML career), so he's already 27 and has only played 436 games in his 4 seasons (he's missed extended time with injuries the last couple of years). He is by no means on a HOF path, but he would meet the "star" critera (at least for a catcher) - he's started the last 2 AS games and will most likely be a regular there as long as he stays at catcher (being popular on the Cubs will help him win starts, if nothing else). He's not a great defensive catcher - though a lot of that is framing related; he's incredibly athletic and has a great arm. If injuries continue to bug him, his bat is good enough that he likely would be moved to another position (he started as a 3b, but is more likely a corner OF or 1b if he were to ever move full time).

Gary Sanchez. It's really early, but Will Smith is worth watching.
   109. Srul Itza Posted: October 14, 2019 at 06:09 PM (#5890445)
Not in Gemini Man
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