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Thursday, December 16, 2021
1. Bobby Bonds (57.9) and Barry Bonds (162.7)
No player in MLB history has racked up more WAR as a position player than the younger Bonds, a seven-time MVP Award winner who owns the single-season and career home run records and pretty much rewrote baseball in the early 2000s. Only allegations of performance-enhancing drug use have kept him waiting for Cooperstown’s call. And while Barry overshadows his father, Bobby shouldn’t be underrated. The two Bondses are the only two players in history to combine for at least 300 career home runs with at least 400 steals, as well as the only two to go 20-20 in 10 different seasons.
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1. Rally Posted: December 16, 2021 at 11:33 AM (#6057570)Soriano did it 4 times, Howard Johnson 3 times. Nobody else did it more than twice.
What about the worst father/son combos? Any with negative WAR?
Two of the three people named Jeter who have played in the majors were father and son and both had negative WAR.
Gus Bell (15.8) and David Bell (15.2)
Ray Boone (25.8) and Bret Boone (22.8)
Sam Dente (-3.3) and Rick Porcello (20.2)
Dick Schofield (8.5) and Jayson Werth (29.2)
Lee May (27.3) and Jacob May (-0.6)
Carl Yastrzemski (96.5) and Mike Yastrzemski (7.7)
Automatic elimination from list as this is a MLB.com discussion and there is a lockout.
Right, right. What was I thinking? I should have used some code to discreetly anonymize the MLBer like they did for video games when a player hadn't permitted his name for use. "Mikey Polish"
Dale and Yogi combined for around 65 WAR but only 6.6 from Dale. I feel like the writer had a threshold of each player contributing 10+ WAR to the partnership . . .
And each Butera has a ring.
Many current MLB players are mentioned in the article. Mike Trout (no relation to the other Trouts), Bo Bichette, Cavan Biggio, Vladimir Guerrero Jr...the list goes on. The horror!
You mean Michael Fish, Moe Michette, Caveman Smallio and Bad Terrerro Jr?
Sam Hairston (2.9) and Scott Hairston (6.5)
Probably a major undertaking to compile those stats, but I fully support adding Son of Helen Callaghan to Candeale's page!
Walton and Smith are so paired in Cubs' lore we might as well think of them as brothers. Pretty similar careers as Jerome only made it to 3.7 WAR in 1800 PA with two more solid bench seasons and plenty of not good in the rest of his time.
I kinda like the Schofields in that they were practically the same player. Sr was really before my time but both were lousy-hitting SSs ... in fact they both have a career 73 OPS+. Jr held down a starting slot longer than dad but dad played bits of 19 seasons while Jr only lasted 14. Jr was apparently the better fielder, ended up at 19 WAR; dad made it to 9 WAR. Jayson Werth was notably different than his gene pool.
Seconded.
From the article I linked above:
I'm really looking forward to seeing how Steve Clipper and John Crew's great-grandkids do in the big leagues.
I know that every catcher's mitt I had from age 12 till my involuntary retirement in 1998 was a Mike Piazza model, as I made a point of it.
I remember having a Cal Ripken infielder's glove, but he played for so long I couldn't tell you if I had it in tee ball or high school.
He was a full-time DH at the time, so it was not quite the same as rocking an Ozzie Smith glove out there . . .
I also got a free one at baseball glove night at Comiskey, but that fell apart the first time I played catch with it. That one had "Flex Action" where there would have been a fake signature.
blanking on signature on my first glove, where I made the worst "fold" evah. it's a wonder I could catch the ball, there was so little room for it. but I got used to it right away.
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