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Monday, November 18, 2013

The Jewish Daily Forward: Can Ryan Braun Repent Enough To Win Back Jewish Fans?

Dunno…I’m still stuck on the misspelling of Tsitouris.

There are two things that every Jewish baseball fan knows about Ryan Braun.

First, the Milwaukee Brewer leftfielder is the best Jewish ballplayer in the majors today. Second, as a result of his self-inflicted tsoris, Braun faces the gargantuan challenge of winning back his fans when he returns to baseball next spring, following his 65-game suspension this past season for using banned performance-enhancing drugs.

“It’s hard to forgive someone who out and out lies and then gets caught,” said Ari Fleischer, who served as the White House press secretary for George W. Bush. He now heads Ari Fleischer Sports Communications.

Still, if there is any group that can forgive the new Hebrew Hammer, it’s the Jewish community, said Jason Miller, a Detroit rabbi and blogger who comments frequently on Jewish issues.

“We do value repentance so highly,” said Miller who is a member of the board of directors of the Michigan Jewish Sports Foundation. “We will be willing to give him a second chance.”

...Fleischer stressed the importance of Braun coming forward in person to acknowledge his wrongdoing. But he expressed doubts as to whether the ballplayer would be able to do so in a convincing manner.

“He has to be contrite and, if possible, be sincere and really mean it,” Fleischer said. ”I don’t know if he’s capable of doing that.”

But Fleischer emphasized that he did not think Braun’s woes should be viewed as a Jewish issue. “I wanted to say that in a Jewish paper,” Fleischer said.

Then there is the question of how Braun — who is, after all, a ballplayer — will perform on the field. This will no doubt influence the fans.

“He’ll let his bat do the talking,” Fleischer said.

Repoz Posted: November 18, 2013 at 05:36 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: November 18, 2013 at 07:47 AM (#4601715)
   2. dejarouehg Posted: November 18, 2013 at 07:59 AM (#4601718)
Still, if there is any group that can forgive the new Hebrew Hammer, it’s the Jewish community


Why? Do we, the Jewish community (not that we are even close to one community), specialize in forgiveness? This is b.s.

On the flipside, we're as good at holding a grudge as anyone else.

I would not (nor do I know of any other fellow Jews who are aware of all that has gone on) forgive him, though it's not like he's the equivalent of the Son of Sam (which I was embarrased about as a kid) either.

The PED usage is embarassing enough. That just makes him illigitimate in his athletic achievements.

Going after the test taker? Well that just makes him a world-class sc**bag.
   3. rpackrat Posted: November 18, 2013 at 08:13 AM (#4601721)
“It’s hard to forgive someone who out and out lies and then gets caught,” said Ari Fleischer, who served as the White House press secretary for George W. Bush.


No comment.
   4. Jobu is silent on the changeup Posted: November 18, 2013 at 08:53 AM (#4601726)
Why? Do we, the Jewish community (not that we are even close to one community), specialize in forgiveness? This is b.s.


Because people tend to be sympathetic toward their own. Neither B.S. nor offensive.
   5. Random Transaction Generator Posted: November 18, 2013 at 08:58 AM (#4601731)
“It’s hard to forgive someone who out and out lies and then gets caught,” said Ari Fleischer, who served as the White House press secretary for George W. Bush.

The balls on that guy...
   6. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: November 18, 2013 at 09:06 AM (#4601734)
Hey, he never said he forgave Emperor Dimwit.
   7. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 18, 2013 at 09:10 AM (#4601736)
I don't think I understand the idea of Braun's religion having anything to do with whether people - Jewish or Gentile - forgive him. I mean, as a Quaker, I'm no more likely to think Richard Nixon is a likable guy than if he had grown up Anglican. I don't bring this up to criticize, but to ask for some background on the concept of "winning back Jewish fans", as if they're a bloc. Is it rooted in the idea of Judaism as a nation and ethnicity in addition to being a faith?

I often hesitate to ask questions about religion, particularly to people I don't know personally, because I don't want them to take offense. Please be assured I'm not trying to be inflammatory here. I'm genuinely curious.
   8. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: November 18, 2013 at 09:13 AM (#4601737)
The balls on that guy...

Jay Carney finds you so adorable.
   9. . . . . . . Posted: November 18, 2013 at 09:22 AM (#4601740)
Is it rooted in the idea of Judaism as a nation and ethnicity in addition to being a faith?


Yes.
   10. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 18, 2013 at 09:23 AM (#4601742)
Thanks, 'zop. I figured that's what it was, but didn't want to assume.
   11. Krusty Posted: November 20, 2013 at 12:58 PM (#4603080)
So, what do people think Braun's 2014 looks like? My guess is something like 280/335 with 20ish HR in 130ish games. is there a big enough sample that we can guess how PED users will fare yet?
   12. Dock Ellis Posted: November 20, 2013 at 01:03 PM (#4603083)
He didn't even have a bar mitzvah.

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