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Friday, July 30, 2004

The Official Mets Fan Self-Immolation Thread

For those of you who can’t bear to continue. (Thanks to Gold Star For Robot Boy for the idea.)

The definitely immoral Eric Enders Posted: July 30, 2004 at 11:44 PM | 1009 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   501. bobm Posted: September 22, 2015 at 06:03 PM (#5044277)
I have this memory, no idea if I made it up or not, of him opening a game by walking the bases loaded on 12 pitches.

I don't see it on B-R.
   502. bbmck Posted: September 22, 2015 at 06:32 PM (#5044286)
John Maine's Gem

Maine threw 12 straight balls to open his start Saturday night against the Florida Marlins. He tossed 40 pitches in a three-run first inning and the Mets ultimately lost 7-5 at Sun Life Stadium to slip under .500 for the first time since April 23.

Boxscore
   503. zack Posted: September 22, 2015 at 07:06 PM (#5044296)
Kinda incredible that they let Maine go five innings after that start.
   504. bobm Posted: September 22, 2015 at 08:04 PM (#5044328)
That is crazy!

Bottom of the 1st Marlins Batting Tied 0-0 Mets JohnMaine facing 1-2-3

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Out RoB Pit(cnt)Sequence   R/O Bat    Batter Pitcher wWPA wWE
                                                                Play Description
0 ---             4(3-0)BBBB FLA C.Coghlan J.Maine 3% 58%
                                                                            Walk

0 1--             4(3-0)BBBB FLA G.Sanchez J.Maine 5% 64%
                                                              Walk Coghlan to 2B

0 12-             4(3-0)BBBB FLA H.Ramirez J.Maine 7% 71%
                                                Walk Coghlan to 3B Sanchez to 2B

0 123        3(1-1)CBX     O FLA   J.Cantu J.Maine-6% 64%
                                                           Lineout: SS (Weak SS)

1 123   8(3-2)BBBCFFFB     R FLA   D.Uggla J.Maine 9% 73%
                                 Walk Coghlan Scores Sanchez to 3B Ramirez to 2B

1 123  9(3-2)FFFBBFBFS     O FLA    C.Ross J.Maine-6% 67%
                                                              Strikeout Swinging

2 123      5(2-2)CBCBX    RR FLA  C.Maybin J.Maine14% 80%
 Single to CF (Ground Ball thru SS-2B) Sanchez Scores Ramirez Scores Uggla to 2B

2 12-        3(0-2)CCS     O FLA   B.Hayes J.Maine-2% 78%
                                                              Strikeout Swinging
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  


3 runs 1 hit 0 errors 2 LOB. Mets 0 Marlins 3.

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 9/22/2015.
   505. billyshears Posted: September 22, 2015 at 10:05 PM (#5044385)
So, I guess a Mets loss and a Nats loss is a net positive.

I'm sure the numbers are against me, but I'm completely fed-up with Collins' relentless platooning. I basically never want to see Eric Campbell hit again, I rarely ever want to see Nieuwenhuis hit and I never want to see Cuddyer hit for Duda. These guys are going to have little or no role for the team if it makes the playoffs, so why are we relying on them in games that are starting to feel rather important in trying to make it. Can't we just let our best guys play, more or less? Is that so ####### hard?
   506. and Posted: September 22, 2015 at 10:11 PM (#5044395)
Magic number for the mets at six. Even if they lose until the final series and the nats win until then, the mets win with a sweep.
   507. Lassus Posted: September 22, 2015 at 10:44 PM (#5044429)
Wow, bobm didn't just break the page, he destroyed it.
   508. Adam Starblind Posted: September 23, 2015 at 12:36 PM (#5044739)
HELP!!! FIX IT!!!
   509. Spahn Insane Posted: September 23, 2015 at 01:08 PM (#5044767)
Leafing back through this thread, it's strange that of all threads, this one experienced a 2-year hiatus in....2007-2008. How is that possible?
   510. Conor Posted: September 23, 2015 at 01:28 PM (#5044791)
I think i can accept Cuddyer hitting for Duda against a lefty, but I just never want to see Eric Campbell again.
   511. Hysterical & Useless Posted: September 23, 2015 at 03:56 PM (#5044936)
Harveys, I wanted to like Willie Randolph as a manager because he was a wonderful player, but he was so determinedly "old school" it was just depressing. David Wright had to "earn"
an important spot in the batting order in 2005, even though he'd had the best OPS+ on the team as a rookie. Jose Reyes had to be more "professional" (ie, less demonstratively joyful)
on the field. Of course, the biggest failing of those Mets teams was simply the ancient and fragile pitching staff they had, but Willie's determination to never appear even pleased,
much less happy, and his need for his players to be as poker-faced as he was, made him very difficult to root for.
   512. Bote Man Posted: September 23, 2015 at 10:01 PM (#5045137)
Barves 6
Mets 3
FINAL

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!

(I could have gone with more 'O's but I didn't want to break the page any more.)
   513. bobm Posted: September 23, 2015 at 10:15 PM (#5045148)
What happened to Gameday?

Baltimore Orioles ‏@Orioles 2 minutes ago
#Orioles win, 4-3! That’s 10 out of the last 14 games! #Birdland
   514. billyshears Posted: September 23, 2015 at 10:23 PM (#5045155)
The Orioles are officially my second favorite team.
   515. Bote Man Posted: September 23, 2015 at 10:31 PM (#5045160)
Those who can, do. Those who can't, rely on the Orioles. It's a famous saying.
   516. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: September 23, 2015 at 11:19 PM (#5045186)
It's fun when you can lose a game like that and still consider it a good day.
   517. billyshears Posted: September 23, 2015 at 11:44 PM (#5045199)
It's fun when you can lose a game like that and still consider it a good day.


I do not consider this fun.
   518. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: September 23, 2015 at 11:49 PM (#5045203)
Is anyone else finding this thread's right margin out of whack?
   519. Gch Posted: September 24, 2015 at 12:04 AM (#5045206)

Is anyone else finding this thread's right margin out of whack?


bobm broke the page in post 504.
   520. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: September 24, 2015 at 12:24 AM (#5045214)
You know, I went back to look up the 2004 Mets just now. It wasn't an historic collapse like those in 07 and 08, but this team must have been such a huge bummer. It was over .500 (44-43) at the All Star break. After the All-Star break, it went 27-48, or a ~.318 winning percentage. It had the very young Wright and Reyes, but other than that, it was a roster that would have been a powerhouse 10 years earlier, and was terrible in 2004. It was the team's 3rd straight losing season (not even the worst of those). There must have been a moment in late June or early July when there was a lot of hope floating around Queens. And then . . .

Well, that's why there's a self-immolation thread, I guess.
   521. bobm Posted: September 24, 2015 at 01:18 AM (#5045229)
bobm broke the page in post 504.

Sorry.
   522. bobm Posted: September 24, 2015 at 01:29 AM (#5045232)
You know, I went back to look up the 2004 Mets just now. It wasn't an historic collapse like those in 07 and 08, but this team must have been such a huge bummer. It was over .500 (44-43) at the All Star break. After the All-Star break, it went 27-48, or a ~.318 winning percentage. It had the very young Wright and Reyes, but other than that, it was a roster that would have been a powerhouse 10 years earlier, and was terrible in 2004. It was the team's 3rd straight losing season (not even the worst of those). There must have been a moment in late June or early July when there was a lot of hope floating around Queens. And then . . .


                                         
Gm#                  Date   W-L Rank   GB
23          Friday Apr 30  9-14    4  6.0
50          Monday May 31 24-26    4  5.5
76       Wednesday Jun 30 37-39    3  3.0
87          Sunday Jul 11 44-43    4  2.0

103       Saturday Jul 31 49-54    4  8.0
131        Tuesday Aug 31 60-71    4 17.0
162          Sunday Oct 3 71-91    4 25.0
Gm#                  Date   W-L Rank   GB


Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 9/24/2015.

NL East Division - First Half

 Tm  W  L W-L%   GB  RS  RA pythW-L%
PHI 46 41 .529   -- 452 427     .526
ATL 45 42 .517  1.0 415 378     .543
FLA 45 43 .511  1.5 375 383     .490
NYM 44 43 .506  2.0 387 365     .527
MON 31 56 .356 15.0 290 405     .352


NL East Division - Second Half

 Tm  W  L W-L%   GB  RS  RA pythW-L%
ATL 51 24 .680   -- 388 290     .630
PHI 40 35 .533 11.0 388 354     .542
FLA 38 36 .514 12.5 343 317     .536
MON 36 39 .480 15.0 345 364     .475
NYM 27 48 .360 24.0 297 366     .406
   523. Adam Starblind Posted: September 24, 2015 at 08:14 AM (#5045257)
1. We need 77 more posts to get off this page.

2.

Harveys, I wanted to like Willie Randolph as a manager because he was a wonderful player, but he was so determinedly "old school"


Trivial but annoying was his ban on facial hair -- except for mustaches. WTF??? Just because he liked to have a mustache??? Get over yourself.

3. Odd to see posts about 2004 without screaming about trading Scott Kazmir and other then-top prospects Justin Huber and Matt Peterson for garbage.

   524. zack Posted: September 24, 2015 at 09:46 AM (#5045297)
#520, the autoignition wasn't over the tanking of the season, it was over the (perceived, anyway) tanking of the future. 2004 marked the first time since, well, ever in my fandom that there looked like there might soon be a good Mets team that wasn't reliant on a bunch of has-beens. And management threw that to "go for it" because they were only 2 games out. But when you are 2 games out with 3 teams ahead of you, you aren't really even close.

The fact that "going for it" also backfired completely was just a crap cherry on top of the #### sundae.
   525. zack Posted: September 24, 2015 at 09:56 AM (#5045305)
In fact, IF they make the playoffs this will be the first Mets team since I started really following them in '97 to make the postseason with a roster that is not almost entirely over the hill.

The '99 team, only Alfonzo, Ordonez, Dotel and Benitez were under 30 among "regulars". The entire rotation was 34 or older.
The '06 team had Wright and Reyes, Beltran was only 29, but everyone else was older than dirt. The rotation made the '99 team's look young for most of the season.
   526. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:03 AM (#5045308)
Split in Cincy and take 2 in Philly and all is well.
   527. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:06 AM (#5045312)
The fact that "going for it" also backfired completely was just a crap cherry on top of the #### sundae.


Among the things that drove me nuts, was seeing how badly the Met brain trust blew the talent evaluation portion of their jobs- they kept talking about Zambrano's "electric stuff" - but hello, we have eyes, we can see, we saw him in TB pitching against the Yankees, we see him now in a Met uniform - Mark 1 eyeball says, "mediocre stuff and poor command" (which, surprise surprise is pretty much what his stat line said as well)- they kept telling fans things that not only were not true, but stuff that Met fans could readily see for themselves were not true- in a way it was really insulting. It wasn't just Zambrano, when they traded for Benson they publicly pretended he had te same stuff he'd had before TJ surgery- well I'd see him when the Pirates first brought him up and Nope, not even close.

We traded Kazmir's career, Jose Bautista's career, and Ty Wiggington's career for two 3rd starters (I'm being charitable) who had already LOST their stuff before throwing a single pitch for the Mets- and talked about those two guys as if they were the prospects they'd been before their [failed] TJ surgeries- As a fan it was very disheartening to realize that the team I was following really did not have a single ####### clue- Phillips was gone and yet somehow they were even worse
   528. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:15 AM (#5045316)
Since this is the autoignition thread... at this point in 2007 the Mets were 1.5 games up... having gone from a 7 game lead to a 1.5 game lead in 7 days, the Mets seemingly righted the ship, won 3 in a row and were 2.5 up with 7 left... and of course lost 6 of those 7
   529. Lassus Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:30 AM (#5045322)
Split in Cincy and take 2 in Philly and all is well.

Winning 4 out of 7 is no kind of given. Thank god the Nats are providing such help.
   530. Lassus Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:31 AM (#5045323)
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   554. Omineca Greg Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:42 AM (#5045349)
just helping
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   557. and Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:46 AM (#5045355)
Poof goes the Met fan.
   558. Lassus Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:46 AM (#5045357)
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   560. Lassus Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:47 AM (#5045359)
thank you
   561. and Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:47 AM (#5045360)
I mean, this is spectacular.
   562. Lassus Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:47 AM (#5045361)
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   563. and Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:47 AM (#5045362)
My sister was bitten by a moose.
   564. Lassus Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:47 AM (#5045363)
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   568. Lassus Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:48 AM (#5045369)
OOOOOOOOOOOOKLAHOMA
   569. Omineca Greg Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:48 AM (#5045370)
ten seconds is so long
   570. Lassus Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:49 AM (#5045371)
What's the frequency, Kenneth?
   571. Omineca Greg Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:49 AM (#5045372)
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   572. and Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:50 AM (#5045375)
Where the wind comes sweeping down the plain
   573. Omineca Greg Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:50 AM (#5045377)
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   574. Lassus Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:50 AM (#5045378)
booyaa
   575. Lassus Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:50 AM (#5045379)
Goya
   576. and Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:50 AM (#5045380)
Aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
   577. Omineca Greg Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:50 AM (#5045381)
it is almost impossible for me to come up with a single thought in ten seconds
   578. and Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:50 AM (#5045382)
Not even close
   579. Lassus Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:51 AM (#5045384)
Oklahoma is a really frightening musical in a lot of ways.
   580. Omineca Greg Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:51 AM (#5045385)
and I still make spelling mistakes
   581. Omineca Greg Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:51 AM (#5045387)
I am one slow dude!
   582. Lassus Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:52 AM (#5045388)
How about ten thoughts in a single second?
   583. Omineca Greg Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:52 AM (#5045389)
But that's what the Pointer Sisters like.
   584. and Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:52 AM (#5045390)
Oklahoma is a really frightening musical in a lot of ways.

It really became a much happier place once ol' Jud was dead.
   585. Omineca Greg Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:52 AM (#5045391)
How about ten thoughts in a single second?


Impossible. Maybe when I die?
   586. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:53 AM (#5045392)
My sister was bitten by a moose.

No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink"...
   587. and Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:53 AM (#5045393)
One BBTF post contains the entire universe
   588. Lassus Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:53 AM (#5045394)
kjhg
   589. Omineca Greg Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:53 AM (#5045395)
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   590. and Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:54 AM (#5045396)
Almost there
   591. and Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:54 AM (#5045398)
Almost there
   592. Omineca Greg Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:54 AM (#5045399)
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   593. and Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:54 AM (#5045400)
Keep her steady
   594. and Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:54 AM (#5045402)
Almost there
   595. and Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:54 AM (#5045403)
FLIP!
   596. and Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:55 AM (#5045404)
No, that's a miss. Just peckin on the surface
   597. Omineca Greg Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:55 AM (#5045405)
Conway Twitty sang that Slow Hand too.
   598. zack Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:55 AM (#5045406)
On a 24" monitor with the browser fullscreen'd, I don't even know what you guys are trying to scroll off.
   599. and Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:55 AM (#5045407)
Where the hell did Lassus go?
   600. Lassus Posted: September 24, 2015 at 10:56 AM (#5045409)
ISOMATA NOW YOUR DREAM VACATION HAS BEGUN
WHERE THE FAMILIES MEET
FOR THEIR MOUTAIN RETREAT
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAHHHH!

Chorus:

WE KNOW YOU BELONG IN THIS PLACE
BY THE END YOU WILL KNOW EVERY FACE
SO WHEN YOU SAAAAYYYY YEAH!
AND HEAR COYOYES BRAAAAAY!

We came up witih that once for a job we worked at in California.
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