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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Thursday, September 14, 2023The racist incident that shook baseball nine years before integration
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Posted: September 14, 2023 at 10:14 AM | 24 comment(s)
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1. Addie Joss Posted: September 14, 2023 at 03:43 PM (#6141331)Chances are it would never make it into print or would hve gotten watered down to "stayed in shape chasing criminals for the Dayton Police." It's not being able to edit a live broadcast that mattered, not the difference between spoken and printed.
Checking Wiki, Landis suspended him for 10 games and, this is a bit weird, the Yankees made him walk through Harlem accompanied by a famous African-American aviator. Wiki also mentions he was rabidly anti-semitic and intentionally injured Hank Greenberg. This lovely fellow got arrested for check fraud after his career and committed suicide in the police station.
Careful... there are some people who would read your implication to mean that you are proposing genocide against journalists who work in print.
At least there's a happy ending
you are proposing genocide against journalists
And this is a bad thing...how...?
The equivalent if sensitivity training.
I had the Higbe book when I was a kid, but any subtlety would have gone over my head.
The Mays candidacy, I do recall, came at the peak of the "nobody - NOBODY - gets to be unanimous!"
can't rule out some writer's dark racist history, of course. but for sure, the prevailing theme seemed very different.
stupid theme, but it was there.
it is perversely amusing that Rivera - in nobody's top 20 and maybe nobody's top 50 - got to break the spell.
The only way Rivera made sense getting 100 percent is the idea that he was undoubtedly the best at his "position." An old-time anti-Mays vote could have said, "he wasn't as good as Cobb and Ty didn't go in unanimously" or some crank withholding a vote for Seaver could have argued that Johnson was better but didn't go in unanimously. But there weren't any relievers better than Rivera.
Obviously, reliever is not a position and Rivera is arguably the only pure reliever who even warrants a spot in the Hall (Hoyt is the only other one with a case). But the BBWAA does not share this POV.
Also obviously, the main idiocy was voters who didn't have Mays/Seaver/Schmidt/Morgan on their ballots.
he actually was bad in his last season, an 81 OPS+ in 239 PA.
Willie went 3 for 10 with 2 RBI in the 1973 postseason, but one of his WS hits was a pathetic squib and he did look like he was 50 years old.
overall, not an unusually ugly ending to a storied career.
I just looked back at the Higbe book, and he said that the rock fights came about when he and his friends had to walk through a Black neighborhood to get to school, and were greeted with a barrage. He (correctly) noted that similar ethnic battles were always taking place in Brooklyn during his time with the Dodgers, only in that case the ethnic groups were always White. (pp. 10-12)
And in describing his own rock fights with Whites, Paige said that they also started when he and his friends had to pass by a White school on their way home from a Jim Crow school.
FTR between 1958 and 1960 Wilhelm started 48 games, pitched a no-hitter against the Yankees in 1958, and led the AL in ERA and ERA+ the next year. I suspect he got a few extra votes for that. If the Orioles' "Kiddy Korps" of young starting pitchers hadn't come along in 1960, I suspect he might've remained a starter for at least a few more years.
Hoyt also happened to be 36 years old at the time.
he also won the ERA (2.43), ERA+ (152), G (71), and Win Pct (.833, 15-3) titles as a 29-year-old rookie with the NY Giants in 1952.
159 IP - all in relief.
oldest player in his league in his last SEVEN seasons !
Yeah, Wilhelm wasn't exactly used the way modern-day closers are. He threw more innings than Trevor Hoffman and Billy Wagner combined.
And of the 58 players who made their MLB debuts in 1952, only 8 of them were older than Wilhelm.** Talk about burning the candle at both ends.
** And of those 8, the only one that even semi-serious fans today would likely know about was George Crowe. OTOH the Dodgers' Joe Black, who was the 10th oldest rookie that year to Wilhelm's 9th, wound up being the Rookie of the Year and placing 3rd in the MVP voting. It was a good year for rookie NYC relievers.
WHich is kind of confusing to me. Staub obviously was hot, he went 4-4 in game 4 and was collecting hits the whole time so you want to leave him out there despite his arm. Hahn was below replacement level his entire career and his numbers in 73 are well below. Mays was still above average in 1972 although he was not the same in 73 its hard to imagine he was worse than Hahn in either fielding or hitting.
The rookie I was thinking of was Geo. Theordore who only came in game 4 to spell Cleon in LF when he was vomiting.
Its seems that Mays in CF would be a better bet than Hahn. And why didnt he PH in games 6 and 7? They went with Kranepool and Boswell, and also Beachamp in game 7. Was Mays hurt at that pt?
Also some horrible calls in game 2. Donatelli clearly blew the call at home, Rudi's throw beat Harrleson by 12 feet but Tenace clearly missed the tag. There was another blown call at first. ugly
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