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The WEEKLY OMNICHATTER for all you working plebs, for September 7-9, 2021

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Hombre Brotani Posted: September 07, 2021 at 06:09 AM | 65 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Walt Davis Posted: September 07, 2021 at 07:48 AM (#6038546)
YADOT ESOL SLEGNA EHT LLIW WOH??
   2. TomH Posted: September 07, 2021 at 09:22 AM (#6038552)
ackwardsbay
   3. Walt Davis Posted: September 07, 2021 at 05:29 PM (#6038599)
At the end of the weekend chatter, some folks were wondering why there were only 12 games on the holiday. That's been pretty common for the last few years. I assume it's an outgrowth of the union getting more days off during the season and that they probably specifically noted that players would like to spend time with their families on holidays now and then too. I don't know that, I've never seen it anywhere but I think it's the most likely explanation.

This year was pretty full -- 14 games on Mem Day, 16 on the 4th (Mets-Yanks DH) ... but now just 12 on Labor day. 2020 obviously doesn't count. In 2019 there were 14 on Mem Day again but only 12 on the 4th. In 2019, the Cubs played on the 4th (a Thurs) but not on the 5th (a Fri, really weird ... just 13 games). Then just 12 on Labour Day 2019.
   4. Howie Menckel Posted: September 07, 2021 at 07:12 PM (#6038602)
Pete Alonso's 100th HR tonight comes in the second-fewest AB in MLB history, trailing only Ryan Howard in the category.
   5. salvomania Posted: September 07, 2021 at 07:57 PM (#6038606)
Nice 3rd inning by the Marlins' starter, Edward Cabrera: walk, walk, walk, hbp, hbp.
   6. Howie Menckel Posted: September 07, 2021 at 07:58 PM (#6038607)
Marlins phenom ECabrera, after it's 2-2 after 2 innings, opens the 3rd inning with:

walk
walk
walk
HBP
HBP

finally the Marlins realize he doesn't have his "A" game lol, and he is removed
   7. salvomania Posted: September 07, 2021 at 08:12 PM (#6038609)
finally the Marlins realize he doesn't have his "A" game

Probably the second HBP that tipped them off
   8. Snowboy Posted: September 07, 2021 at 08:18 PM (#6038610)
Gerritt Cole leaves the game.
70 pitches, 2 out in 4th.
+ trailing 3-1, just gave up a sac fly. Cole signaled to the bench.
   9. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 07, 2021 at 08:19 PM (#6038611)
Rays have had enough of toying around with the Red Sox, now just putting the hurt on them and showing why they have the best record in the AL, Sox down 5-1 starting the 4th.
   10. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 07, 2021 at 08:54 PM (#6038613)
Yankees say Cole left the game with ‘left hamstring tightness’. Presumably he will get a MRI to determine if it is a strain. Best case scenario would be a cramp.
   11. cardsfanboy Posted: September 07, 2021 at 09:01 PM (#6038615)
Cardinals offense needs to step up in a game like this where you don't have a Scherzer going against you and you have a 5.00+ era pitcher pitching for you, you have to assume you need to score 5 runs to have any real chance at a victory, currently 3-2 in the 4th inning so it's not panic time yet. Right now it's just the O'neil/Arenado show.
   12. cardsfanboy Posted: September 07, 2021 at 09:15 PM (#6038616)
4-2 now, after the Cardinals failed to score on a leadoff double and Turner hits a homerun.
   13. Walt Davis Posted: September 07, 2021 at 10:06 PM (#6038625)
Bottom 8 and the Cubs have taken a 3-2 lead in solo HRs. Alas, Reds lead 4-3 on the "actual" scoreboard.
   14. cardsfanboy Posted: September 07, 2021 at 10:26 PM (#6038628)
Alas, Reds lead 4-3 on the "actual" scoreboard.


Pesky actual score.
   15. cardsfanboy Posted: September 07, 2021 at 10:44 PM (#6038631)
7-2 Dodgers... Cardinals bullpen has not been good in the second half of the season at all.
   16. cardsfanboy Posted: September 07, 2021 at 10:48 PM (#6038633)
Is there going to be a thread for the hof ceremony tomorrow?
   17. Howie Menckel Posted: September 07, 2021 at 11:03 PM (#6038634)
NL LEAST STANDINGS thru Tues

ATL 73-64 --- (W)

PHI 71-67 2.5 (L)
NY.. 70-69 4 (W)


ignoring LA/SF, the other NL WILD CARD goes to one of:

SDP 73-64 --- vs LAA

CIN 74-66 0.5 (W)
PHI 71-67 2.5 (L)
STL 69-68 4 (L)
NY.. 70-69 4 (W)

AL WILD CARD thru most of Tuesday (TWO slots)

NYY. 78-60 +0.5 (L)
BOS 79-62 --- (L)

TOR 75-62 2 (W)
SEA 75-63 2.5 at HOU
OAK 74-63 3 vs CWS
   18. Hombre Brotani Posted: September 07, 2021 at 11:07 PM (#6038636)
Blake Snell is totally going to no-hit the Angels tonight. Perfect through 4.
   19. The Duke Posted: September 07, 2021 at 11:12 PM (#6038638)
Well, the cardinals will need to win the WC with a below .500 record. Stranger things have JA Happened.

At least we have Ted Simmons and Larry walker going in tomorrow. I grew up watching Simmons pull line drives down the line in LF and RF which was the only way to consistently hit balls out of old Busch. He was brilliant at that. One of my favorite players ever. Every time I see a highlight reel of him hitting with his distinctive swing I get transported back to childhood. He might not have been Johnny bench but he was pretty darned close.
   20. cardsfanboy Posted: September 07, 2021 at 11:20 PM (#6038639)
Ted Simmons is my favorite player of all time. My girlfriend found out about that (a decade+ ago) and found that I was missing three of his topps baseball cards for my collection and managed to get it for me. She also arranged for us to go see him get inducted, but things(2020) happened, and that didn't happen.

I remember being 10 years old and waiting in line at Crestwood Mall to get his autograph. (I only have three autographs in my collection, Ted Simmons, Stan Musial and Keith Hernandez... also Billie Dee Williams and Morena Baccarin and Stan Lee... but Williams is for my buddy, and all three don't relate to the story of baseball autographs)

I was supposed to have tomorrow off, and was looking forward to watching the ceremony, but I work retail and unload trucks and the truck driver forgot to show up today, so tomorrow I have to work now, but it's 3am to 11:30 so I should still be able to watch most of the ceremony. (have to be up in 4 hours...yea great sleep)
   21. Walt Davis Posted: September 07, 2021 at 11:35 PM (#6038641)
Pesky actual score.

Glad to see we agree. The "actual" score should only count when the Cubs lead. If not, we should keep working our way down until we find some vaguely meaningful category the Cubs have outperformed their opponents in that game. When you do this, it's easy to see the Cubs are nearly a 500 team this year and in the hunt for the 8th playoff spot. Oh, did I forget to mention we add/reduce playoff spots depending on whether that helps the Cubs' postseason chances?
   22. salvomania Posted: September 07, 2021 at 11:37 PM (#6038642)
"Packy Naughton"?
   23. Hombre Brotani Posted: September 07, 2021 at 11:59 PM (#6038643)
Yep. The Angels are auditioning anyone with a pulse and an arm for next year's rotation.
   24. Hombre Brotani Posted: September 08, 2021 at 12:06 AM (#6038644)
Jo Adell with a 2-run single! The first hit allowed by Snell after 6.2 hitless innings plates two, giving the Angels a 2-0 lead. Snell was perfect through the first 6.
   25. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 08:37 PM (#6038807)
Cardinals showing a bit of life with a Yadier 2 run bomb to give them a 3-1 lead in the first inning, it's bottom of the third now.
   26. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 08:39 PM (#6038808)
I don't usually hate on our managers, but Shildt is the worst I've seen in a Cardinal uniform at both lineup construction and bullpen management, he is by far the best at player cohesion so there is that for him. (and yes that includes Torre as a Cardinal manager)
   27. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 08:44 PM (#6038810)
Damn the Dodgers lineup is loaded... when a team can put out a 7 man offense featuring all players with 120 or better ops+ minimum 300 pa for the season.... with either Cody Bellinger or Albert Pujols being the weak man...
   28. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 08:52 PM (#6038814)
Yadier 2-2 today... a single and advance on an error, and then with Yadier's blazing speed he advances on a wild pitch. Makes up for the steal he missed out on the other day as Sosa had to defend against a 2 strike count.
   29. The Honorable Ardo Posted: September 08, 2021 at 08:54 PM (#6038815)
Miguel Cabrera is 4 for 4 today (Tigers lead 5-1 in the 8th inning). He now needs 29 hits in the Tigers' 21 remaining games to reach 3,000 this season.
   30. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 08:56 PM (#6038816)
Sosa is having a pretty decent season... I don't think anyone was expecting him to play this well this early. I think the contemporary opinion was he still needed seasoning to develop consistency. He seems to be ML ready based upon his 230+ ml pas so far. Excellent defense, and solid hitting.
   31. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 08:58 PM (#6038817)
Miguel Cabrera is 4 for 4 today (Tigers lead 5-1 in the 8th inning). He now needs 29 hits in the Tigers' 21 remaining games to reach 3,000 this season.


Not impossible at all. He has 101 hits in 111 games, just a little bit of any improvement and he's there.
   32. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 09:00 PM (#6038818)
Just for context, not counting tonight, his last 29 games, 27 games started, he has 25 hits. If you ignore his two pinch hit appearances we are talking about 27 games, 24 hits or if you got two more starts past that, it's 29 games 27 hits. It's unlikely, but not impossible.
   33. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 09:03 PM (#6038819)
After a "bad" (out, single, single, double) start to the game, Adam Wainright has recorded 13 consecutive outs after 5 innings, 64 pitches so a complete game is unlikely though, but another 7 inning start isn't. Barring some type of collapse, I have to assume he'll get a few Cy Young votes this season. Won't win or even compete to be honest, but it will help his narrative as the guy with the most cy young shares without ever winning it... yes I get it's a narrow concept that I'm probably the only person in the world that cares about it, but it's still a thing.
   34. Hombre Brotani Posted: September 08, 2021 at 09:12 PM (#6038822)
It's bullpen day for the Angels. Reliever Jake Petricka has walked in three consecutive runs with the bases loaded. He won't get to four straight because he just wild-pitched the guy in from third.

Next guy singles in two. An 8-run 2nd inning for the Padres. Four walks and a HBP in the inning, all five of those runners scored. I think I can stop watching this.
   35. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 09:15 PM (#6038823)
Reliever Jake Petricka has walked in three consecutive runs with the bases loaded. He won't get to four straight because he just wild-pitched the guy in from third.


I can see the newest target for the Cardinals pitching staff. (In case you forgot, the Cardinals were on pace at one point in time for most bases loaded walks in a season... I think they probably set the record)


Muncy with a weak ass homerun against Waino..
   36. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 08, 2021 at 09:23 PM (#6038827)
Gritty, gutsy Brett Gardner, the only remaining Yankee to have played with Derek Jeter, gets the Yankees out of their doldrums against the Blue Jays with a game-tying 3-run HR.
   37. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 09:34 PM (#6038828)
I love looking at Albert's career numbers, but the pandemic hurt his potential chance of passing Ruth. If you give him 20 more homeruns in 2020, he's at 700 or so right now. I know the rumor is he's going to retire this season, but not sure that is so certain after his not horrible performance for the Dodgers.
   38. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 09:41 PM (#6038830)
Waino completes the 7th inning at 86 pitches, good chance he comes out to pitch the 8th, assuming a competent manager understands that our bullpen is utter crap and needs time off to contemplate life.
   39. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 09:43 PM (#6038831)
I really hate my local radio station, Ricky Horton consistently gives a commercial that is for an anti-choice ladies clinic.
   40. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 09:44 PM (#6038832)
Waino almost hits a homerun... warning track power...
   41. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 09:52 PM (#6038835)
Here is what a good manager does, warm up a pitcher, but let's Waino pitch until he puts a man on base... Waino is through 8 innings with 93 pitches in a 4-2 game.

Let's see how Shildt screws this easy decision up.... (note if the Cardinals score a run in the bottom of the 8th inning, then you let him pitch until tying run comes up to bat.)
   42. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 09:57 PM (#6038837)
O'Neil with a hr to make it 5-2 lead... a little breathing room.
   43. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 09:58 PM (#6038838)
Mike Shannon is utterly useless as an announcer nowadays. I love the guy but he can't announce for crap any more. He's utterly out of the loop on the game.
   44. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 10:01 PM (#6038840)
Molina proving me wrong by being worthy of the 5th spot of the lineup 2-3 homerun, single, and a walk.
   45. Howie Menckel Posted: September 08, 2021 at 10:03 PM (#6038841)
cruel to Mets fans to have not only the best TV booth in the biz, but they really do seem smarter than any managers.

1-1, runner on 3rd and one out, bottom 10
rookies Sanchez, de la Cruz, and LDiaz up next

booth notes that the right approach is go after Sanchez, walk hot-hitting de la Cruz, then go after LDiaz.

Sanchez whiffs, 2 out
de la Cruz, predictably, hits one to the wall and the Mets' season is thatmuchcloser to being over.

it's like watching a horror movie where the SWAT team crisis expert is explaining the proper survival strategy - but the people on the screen can't hear it.

carnage ensues.

   46. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 10:11 PM (#6038845)
Dangit Waino is getting close to forcing Shildt to make a decision... luckily Muncy flies out. To outs to go as Waino hits 100 pitches for the game but he's getting a bit poor luck on the close pitches right now.
   47. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 08, 2021 at 10:11 PM (#6038846)
Eovaldi goes 7 without giving up a run, pen comes in, gives 1 up to the Rays, however the Sox show some fight back, get 2 on a Renfroe HR in the 8th and hold on to win.

BTW, who had Ohtani and Salvy as finishing 1-2 in the homer standings this year?

   48. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 10:12 PM (#6038847)
1st and 3rd for the Dodgers, one out... nobody in the stadium wants to see Waino removed right now after the last few relief appearances.
   49. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 10:14 PM (#6038849)
I'm surprised that it's Gallegos warming up... Garcia should be coming in, but instead it's going to be Gallegos.
   50. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 10:20 PM (#6038850)
Waino goes 8 1/3 inning, allows 4 runs which ends up hurting his era, and probably his war, which is utterly ridiculous.
   51. cardsfanboy Posted: September 08, 2021 at 10:23 PM (#6038852)
umps do not like low corner pitches.... but luckily Taylor swings anyway. 15 wins for Waino, who failed to get a quality start because of the idiocy of the way it's written.
   52. The Duke Posted: September 08, 2021 at 10:29 PM (#6038854)
Cards improbably hanging in wild card chase. Now if the Phillies and reds lose, it will be a good night
   53. The Duke Posted: September 08, 2021 at 10:33 PM (#6038855)
Reds lose, Phillies losing, Mets lose - now hoping for another epic sept meltdown by Padres
   54. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 08, 2021 at 10:42 PM (#6038857)
Juan Soto HR, # 25 of the season & # 94 of his career, breaks a tie with Giancarlo Stanton for 8th on the Age-22 HR Leaderboard. Next up, Bryce Harper with 97. Nationals lead Braves 4-2 heading into the 9th.
   55. Howie Menckel Posted: September 08, 2021 at 11:15 PM (#6038863)
NL LEAST STANDINGS thru Wed

ATL 73-65 --- (L)

PHI 71-68 2.5 (L)
NY.. 70-70 4 (L)

ignoring LA/SF, the other NL WILD CARD goes to one of:

SDP 74-65 --- (W) (unless they blow an 8-3 lead in the 7th)

CIN 74-66 0.5 (L)
PHI 71-68 3 (L)
STL 70-68 3.5 (W)
NY.. 70-70 4.5 (L)

AL WILD CARD mostly thru Wed (TWO slots)

BOS 80-62 --- (W)
NYY. 78-61 0.5 (L)

TOR 76-62 1.5 (W)
SEA 76-64 3.5 (W)
OAK 74-64 3 vs CWS
   56. The Honorable Ardo Posted: September 09, 2021 at 04:21 AM (#6038883)
If you ignore his two pinch hit appearances we are talking about 27 games, 24 hits or if you got two more starts past that, it's 29 games 27 hits. It's unlikely, but not impossible.
Darn right. When Cabrera hit #500, I gave him a 20% chance of reaching 3000 hits in 2021 and got ridiculed for setting the odds that high. Now I'd say he's up to 40%.
   57. salvomania Posted: September 09, 2021 at 03:38 PM (#6038948)
Something I was following in 2021 up until recently was the Cardinals' assault on the all-time single-season HBP record, which is 95, set by the 2003 Devil Rays.

Since about May, the Cardinals were on pace to shatter the record (with like 120+), and as recently as a month ago were on pace to break it this week. Since then---having revamped their staff over the past several weeks---they've hardly hit anybody, and are now on pace to just squeak past the old mark, with 96.

But lo and behold, the Cubs have now passed the Cardinals for HBP, and are on pace to finish with 99. Given the recent trends, I would wager the Cardinals will fall short of the record (they currently have 82 through 138 games), whereas the Cubs still have a decent shot to become the first MLB team to hit 100 batters in a season.
   58. Howie Menckel Posted: September 09, 2021 at 05:14 PM (#6038957)
the Mets in 2021 have played the most doubleheaders - 13 - of any team since the 1979 Blue Jays.

they have yet to be swept in any of them.

the Amazins swept two of the first four, then had seven straight splits, another sweep, and a split.

they have one more scheduled, and perhaps Mother Nature will have one more in store...

(in unrelated news, the Mets are 70-70 overall)
   59. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 09, 2021 at 07:34 PM (#6038972)
But lo and behold, the Cubs have now passed the Cardinals for HBP, and are on pace to finish with 99.
They end the season with 7 of their last 10 games against each other, so there could be an exciting HBP battle right to the end!
   60. salvomania Posted: September 09, 2021 at 07:59 PM (#6038974)
the Mets in 2021 have played the most doubleheaders - 13 - of any team since the 1979 Blue Jays.

The Cardinals played 11 doubleheaders last year---in just 60 games.
   61. The Duke Posted: September 09, 2021 at 11:08 PM (#6038981)
Just got done watching four games of the Cards - Dodgers series. A few interesting takeaways not having seen the Dodgers other than highlights.

1. Turner -scherzer trade Is a big win. If the Dodgers end up in a one game playoff they can likely throw scherzer and still have plenty of arms for the series that follows. Turner is a dynamo for them as well.

2. Cody bellinger sucks. Really bad. Why are the Dodgers playing him - to the extent they lose any games, a lot of they can be laid at his doorstep. Automatic out. They need to find a different warm body. He swung at a ball today that only went about 55 ft in the air. It was embarrassing.

3. Pujols is a dangerous batter against lefties. But the Pujols/muncy first base platoon is not good defensively

4. Lots of good pitching in LA

Overall my impression is that it’s a team with a lot of great parts that don’t completely mesh well. Still, it’s a deep, deep team
   62. Howie Menckel Posted: September 09, 2021 at 11:12 PM (#6038982)
NL LEAST STANDINGS thru Thurs

all three Leasters blew late leads but only the Braves rallied to win anyway

ATL 74-65 ---

PHI 71-69 3.5 (L)
NY.. 70-71 5 (L)

ignoring LA/SF, the other NL WILD CARD goes to one of, thru Thurs:

SDP 74-65 ---

CIN 74-67 1
STL 71-68 3 (W)
PHI 71-69 3.5 (L)
NY.. 70-71 5 (L)


AL WILD CARD thru Thurs (TWO slots)

BOS 80-62 +1
NYY. 78-62 -- (L)

TOR 77-62 0.5 (W)
SEA 76-64 2
OAK 76-64 2 (W)

HUNGER GAMES: Mets vs Yankees, 9-11 weekend. two teams enter....
   63. Howie Menckel Posted: September 10, 2021 at 12:18 AM (#6038987)
apparently the Cowboys and Buccaneers played a close game tonight as the NFL season kicked off.

sorry, I was mesmerized by an MLB Network special on the first NYC sporting event post 9-11, which was Mets vs Braves at Shea Stadium 10 days later.

The Braves starter that night was Jason Marquis from Staten Island - and along with Mark DeRosa (Meadowlands NJ) and Al Leiter (Jersey Shore), they all grew up a bit in the shadows of the big city. John Franco is from Brooklyn and Steve Karsay - yes, a key player in this saga - is from Flushing, Queens.

all of them appear in this MLB Network special, and explain how and why this game was so particularly personal to them.

they all do a fine job of describing the mixed emotions they had of that game even being played - and how it changed once the game was over. with plenty of game highlights, and the most cathartic stadium roar I have ever heard.

worth looking for as an inevitable rerun on the channel all weekend. and if it's age-appropriate for your offspring, if they start to get immersed - I'd like to think they're going anywhere until they see how it all turns out.....
   64. Snowboy Posted: September 10, 2021 at 03:36 AM (#6038988)
Thanks for the heads-up, Howie.
Lots of 9-11 stuff on this week, 20th anniversary.
"Remembering the Game for New York" is the title.
   65. salvomania Posted: September 10, 2021 at 03:22 PM (#6039051)
Six of the 12 players bb-ref shows at the top of the Cubs' team page as its WAR leaders are wearing a hat for a different team.

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