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To confront new challenges, the Red Sox sought new leadership - The Boston Globe

The Red Sox had a GM looking long-term and building a sustainable model. He won a World Series. Then to placate impatient, short-sighted fans, he was fired right before his long-term planning bore fruit. Dombrowski was brought in to win NOW. He harvested the long-term fruit and spent big, surely at the prodding of the owners. He won a championship. Now he’s been shown the door as well. Again, to placate impatient, short-sighted fans.

The Red Sox ownership group has done a lot for the franchise and fans. They broke “the Curse” and have won three more championships, quite a feat. They’ve also displayed a ruthlessness and lack of loyalty to the architects of those championships.

From the outside looking in, it’s tough not to believe there still isn’t dysfunction at the ownership level (the previous scapegoat, Larry Lucchino, is long gone). It’s also difficult not to think their impatience is more about revenue and profits. I doubt the ease in picking up cheaper Red Sox tickets this year isn’t directly related to the move.

Maybe it’s time for Henry and company to cash out.

Jim Furtado Posted: September 09, 2019 at 01:50 PM | 7 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Nasty Nate Posted: September 09, 2019 at 04:10 PM (#5877837)
then to placate impatient, short-sighted fans .... Again, to placate impatient, short-sighted fans.
What are you basing that on?
   2. karlmagnus Posted: September 09, 2019 at 05:31 PM (#5877870)
I wouldn't mind replacing the ownership at all -- their political correctness and love of soccer are both very annoying traits.

I didn't like Dombrowski when they got him, because I believed (correctly) he would loot the farm system. He's spent a huge amount of money, and put the Sox in a poor position going forward.

I'm glad they kept Bogaerts. I'd like to keep Betts, but I believe WaR substantially overvalues him -- 6.4 WaR for his 2017, with an OPS+ of 108, is a nonsense; you can get outfielders off the scarpheap who can bat as well as that (though I grant you Mookie's 2018 was elite.) Still, since he's looking for full value and has Boras as an agent, somebody will grossly overpay for him. Pass, unless he'll sign for a moderate contract, say 8/200.

I'm much more interested in signing Devers long-term. At least this year, he's a better player and he's only 22, so has a good shot at getting better still.
   3. Walt Davis Posted: September 09, 2019 at 06:10 PM (#5877880)
Players who became anything traded away:

1. Travis Shaw. Not sure this was DD or not, turned into a quite bad trade although Shaw would not have helped the Red Sox this year.
2. Yoan Moncada in the Sale trade. Poor Red Sox. Moncada has hit well this year, still doesn't field well apparently but would have helped this year. Sale has given the Sox 15 WAR.
3. Jalen Beeks -- a mediocre reliever for Eovaldi.

Did I miss anybody?

So where is this sustainable organization built by Cherington? How has it been made less sustainable?

And WAR substantially overvalues Mookie? For sure there are some nutty looking defensive numbers there so ... what ... he's only been worth 35 wins in 6 seasons. What a travesty!! Sox fans should send Mike Trout a nice Xmas present this year -- that crazy low contract he signs means they can probably keep Mookie for something like 10/$300.
   4. villageidiom Posted: September 09, 2019 at 06:31 PM (#5877885)
I'm with NN. I don't think either move was being done to placate fans.

I again remind folks that Cherington wasn't fired. He declined to stay in the position he was already in. They hired Dombrowski to replace Lucchino (or half of Lucchino, with Sam Kennedy taking the business ops half). DD expressed that he wanted Cherington to stay. He chose to leave instead.

I don't blame him for choosing to leave, and despite my support of him I don't blame them for not promoting him. They made the right business decisions, the first being that Lucchino - the architect of the Bobby Valentine hire - would step down.

I don't know the reasons why Dombrowski was fired, but he was fired. It makes no sense that it was to placate the fans. If they were so obsessed with placating the fans, then explain their trade deadline activity.
   5. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2019 at 06:33 PM (#5877888)
then to placate impatient, short-sighted fans .... Again, to placate impatient, short-sighted fans.


What are you basing that on?

I'm guessing...callers to sports talk radio??
   6. Bote Man Posted: September 09, 2019 at 06:37 PM (#5877889)
I didn't like Dombrowski when they got him, because I believed (correctly) he would loot the farm system. He's spent a huge amount of money, and put the Sox in a poor position going forward.

If only there were some way to monetize those World Series wins...but alas, those poor Red Sox.
   7. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 09, 2019 at 10:47 PM (#5877943)
Apparently, everybody but Brian Cashman may be in the running to be the next Red Sox GM - 17 Names To Consider For Boston GM.

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