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Wednesday, April 01, 2020

Toronto’s 3-month shutdown doesn’t bode well for any pro sport

The announcement Tuesday that the city of Toronto has banned all public events through June 30 is not a good sign that games in any North American professional sports league will be back by then.

This is the longest-ranged shutdown any city has enacted, a span of three months. What is more likely: That only Toronto makes this decision, or that by the end of April many cities in the U.S. have followed suit?

In Toronto, this pertains to city-permitted events such as festivals and parades, city-led conferences and cultural programs, and major mass participation events organized by external groups at civic centers and squares, parks and public spaces. It’s logical that sporting events could follow.

Previously, we knew that MLB’s regular season would begin no earlier than late May or early June. That is an optimistic target date. If the season somehow does begin by June, it will likely be in empty stadiums. This is going to be gradual. It’s unrealistic to expect 30,000 fans plus hundreds of stadium workers to be carefree and packed into a venue in just a few months.

 

QLE Posted: April 01, 2020 at 01:48 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: April 01, 2020 at 07:07 AM (#5935424)
I've been envisioning a 4th of July return date for baseball, so...
   2. bookbook Posted: April 01, 2020 at 08:49 AM (#5935445)
If you want baseball back this year, lobby your state to shutdown now. Otherwise it will not happen.
   3. Blastin Posted: April 01, 2020 at 09:34 AM (#5935452)
This wouldn't preclude them doing fanless games in July, though.
   4. winnipegwhip Posted: April 01, 2020 at 09:42 AM (#5935455)
That is just a pre-emptive move to help the Maple Leafs avoid embarrassment.
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 01, 2020 at 12:53 PM (#5935531)
This order does not include pro sporting events, FWIW. Doesn't it seem a bit premature to extend bans this long? I get that things probably won't be better by then, but that is two months away. What is the benefit to extending it that far already?
   6. Jose Needs an Absurd Ukulele Concert Posted: April 01, 2020 at 01:06 PM (#5935537)
RR - I think expectation setting is the important thing here. It's very easy to walk this back down the road if you want to. This sends a message of how serious we should be about this. I think the uncertainty is a big part of people's anxiety right now. Living in two week increments isn't really helpful. Hunkering down for two-three months allows for people to plan how to deal with things.

Also, I am not a doctor but let's say instead of July 1 it is June 1 that things are ready to go. With things already cancelled you don't go from 0 to 60 in terms of attendance at events which may be a good thing. I don't know if it's going to be smart to go from "we're all quarantined" to "75,000 people at a Maple Leafs practice" in one day. Allowing a bit of a build up might be good.
   7. Blastin Posted: April 01, 2020 at 01:14 PM (#5935540)
I agree, set it longer and then do it faster, the way I tell my boss it'll take me two weeks to do something that takes a week.
   8. oscar madisox Posted: April 01, 2020 at 03:09 PM (#5935591)
I agree, set it longer and then do it faster, the way I tell my boss it'll take me two weeks to do something that takes a week.


Mr. Scott built his reputation as a miracle worker by using that same philosophy.


   9. Karl from NY Posted: April 01, 2020 at 03:13 PM (#5935592)
The horizon of cancelling things is also growing exponentially. The NBA cancelled for two weeks at first. Then MLB's first response was to cancel about four weeks worth of spring plus season. Then the French Open postponed from about 8 weeks out. Then the Olympics bailed about 16 weeks away.
   10. catomi01 Posted: April 01, 2020 at 06:10 PM (#5935650)
I agree, set it longer and then do it faster, the way I tell my boss it'll take me two weeks to do something that takes a week.


We hired a Warehouse manager who tried this. We were having some issues getting product turned around quickly enough, and asked him what he thought a reasonable turn-around time for each box was. His answer of 3 days might have worked...if his predecessor hadn't been turning boxes around the same day for the previous 5 years.
   11. flournoy Posted: April 01, 2020 at 06:49 PM (#5935658)
Then the Olympics bailed about 16 weeks away.


That isn't really a fair characterization. USATF had the Olympic Trials scheduled for mid-June. I'm assuming other countries had similar arrangements. But even then, you have to qualify for the Olympic Trials, and there weren't going to be any meets to set qualifying marks in.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: April 01, 2020 at 08:59 PM (#5935685)
Mr. Scott built his reputation as a miracle worker by using that same philosophy.

And 'fessed up to it in an episode of Next Gen.

That isn't really a fair characterization. USATF had the Olympic Trials scheduled for mid-June.

Fair enough but Wimbledon, schedule for June 29-July 12, just outright cancelled today, 12 weeks early. Euro 2020 postponed for a full year 12 weeks before scheduled to start. Apparently the US Open facility has offered its grounds for a temp hospital plus the French Open postponed to 20 Sept, apparently without any consultation with the other tennis majors, which puts it just 1 week after the US Open's scheduled finish.

As for baseball -- NYC is ground zero at the moment. Chicago, Detroit, LA, Seattle, the Bay Area, Miami ... KC looks like the place to be. We don't know how it will work out but it's certainly possible that even if some of those bigger cities are ready to bounce back in July that could be when it's peaking in KC, StL, etc.

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