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Two former major leaguers are upset Alex Bregman carried bat to first base on World Series homer

Alex Bregman broke a 1-1 tie in the bottom of the first inning with a solo homer, ripping a Stephen Strasburg fastball into the seats in left field. Bregman was so caught up in his achievement that he carried the bat all the way to first base. He tried to hand it off to first base coach Don Kelly, but they muffed the transfer. Bregman had a laugh about it as he rounded the bases.

At least two former players aren’t happy about Bregman’s antics. Mike Napoli called him a “douche” on Twitter. Mike Morse was a little more diplomatic, suggesting Bregman was “asking to get someone hurt on your team… next year.”

Wondering what it says that the upshot of this to me is confirming that Mike Napoli counts as a former player…..

 

QLE Posted: October 30, 2019 at 12:37 AM | 74 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: alex bregman, bats, mike morse, mike napoli

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   1. JJ1986 Posted: October 30, 2019 at 07:19 AM (#5896201)
We play quiet.
   2. DavidFoss Posted: October 30, 2019 at 08:21 AM (#5896205)
If Mike Napoli and Mike Morse are the biggest names they could find with this opinion, then no one really cares. It's amazing that at least four news outlets (NBC, yahoo, Sporting News, The Score) felt the need to propagate this boring story. They only reason a headline like this gets clicks is because people imagine more interesting names.
   3. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 30, 2019 at 08:27 AM (#5896207)
To be fair, they posted this article while the game was still going on...they hadn’t had time to call Goose Gossage yet.
   4. Rusty Priske Posted: October 30, 2019 at 09:17 AM (#5896217)
So... you can't flip the bat. You can't hand the bat to the first base coach. You can't lay the bat down gently.

These unwritten rules get more ridiculous every day.
   5. Rally Posted: October 30, 2019 at 09:26 AM (#5896223)
Napoli knows something about beating Justin Verlander. In 2013 ALCS, Verlander pitched an 8 inning 4 hitter, striking out 10. But lost 1-0 on a Napoli homer in the 7th inning.

7 years earlier, in his first MLB at bat, Napoli also homered off Verlander. Over his career he hit 4 homers off Justin, tied for most against any pitcher.
   6. Blastin Posted: October 30, 2019 at 09:34 AM (#5896224)
I think the best response was Soto making fun of him, so this should be over.
   7. Gary Truth Serum Posted: October 30, 2019 at 09:59 AM (#5896245)
If this is such a big deal, why is it that nobody complained when Pedro Cerrano did this back in 1989?
   8. Howie Menckel Posted: October 30, 2019 at 10:01 AM (#5896249)
or when Howie Menckel did it repeatedly in BBTF softball circa 2016?
   9. Moses Taylor, glorified meat shield Posted: October 30, 2019 at 10:06 AM (#5896255)
One current pitcher loved it, and Soto's response.
   10. jmurph Posted: October 30, 2019 at 10:11 AM (#5896262)
Bregman being Bregman, I think it's safe to conclude that he meant it as a troll job. But it's weird and I don't even really know why it's supposed to be offensive.

EDIT: Meaning, they should be bothered because he almost certainly did it to bother them. But... why is it bad, again?
   11. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 30, 2019 at 10:16 AM (#5896269)
Bregman is a douche, there can't really be any doubt about that at this point.

But... why is it bad, again?
Because it's obnoxious to do things just to annoy other people, and why are we encouraging that?
   12. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: October 30, 2019 at 10:21 AM (#5896276)
Because it's obnoxious to do things just to annoy other people, and why are we encouraging that?


Isn't this the entire purpose of the internet at this point?
   13. jmurph Posted: October 30, 2019 at 10:24 AM (#5896279)
and why are we encouraging that?

Who is doing that?
   14. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 30, 2019 at 10:26 AM (#5896281)
Isn't this the entire purpose of the internet at this point?
No, there's still the whole porn thing.
   15. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 30, 2019 at 10:27 AM (#5896283)
Who is doing that?
Everyone who calls this sort of behavior "celebrating" and thinks there should be more of it, and those who criticize people who criticize this sort of behavior. Also Amir Garrett (see link in 9).
   16. Itchy Row Posted: October 30, 2019 at 10:41 AM (#5896294)
First base coaches should carry small effigies of pitchers and toss them up in the air for the hitter to blast into the outfield on their way past.
   17. Rusty Priske Posted: October 30, 2019 at 10:50 AM (#5896306)
Who is doing that?


I will. He literally did NOTHING wrong. Complaining about it is ridiculous.
   18. Red Voodooin Posted: October 30, 2019 at 10:53 AM (#5896312)
Because it's obnoxious to do things just to annoy other people, and why are we encouraging that?


You think he did it to annoy you? And why are you so annoyed by such a benign thing? I'm not annoyed. I'm amused. I don't see what is annoying about it at all. Call it celebrating, call it 'caught up in the moment', call it 'showboating' if you want. Either way I don't see what is objectionable about it in the least.
   19. RoyalFlush Posted: October 30, 2019 at 10:53 AM (#5896313)
I'm not sure Amir Garrett's opinion is based on reaching an end result that doesn't include a brawl.

I also don't think there's anything wrong with what Bregman did.
   20. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: October 30, 2019 at 10:59 AM (#5896320)
What is the rule about dropping the bat? Is there one?

By this time next year, we'll see guys handing it to the first base coach, then a couple months later waiting to hand it to the 3rd base coach, then finally just doing an entire trot with it.
   21. Random Transaction Generator Posted: October 30, 2019 at 11:00 AM (#5896322)
Of course Mike Morse would hate this.

This is a guy who hit a grand slam WITHOUT A BAT, so someone using a bat and carrying it around afterwards would look bad to him.
   22. catomi01 Posted: October 30, 2019 at 11:00 AM (#5896323)
I'm not sure if its an official rule or not, but most of the softball leagues I play in prohibit you from carrying the bat to first base - if you make contact, your out. Only time this almost came into play for me was a high pop up that I assumed was an easy out, jogged down to first with the bat so I wouldn't have to pick it back up on my way back. Fielder muffs the catch and I drop the bat just before my foot comes down on the bag...umpire was a friend and guy I play with a lot, and watching like a hawk...between innings he told me it would have been the highlight of the season to call me out for that.
   23. Jack Sommers Posted: October 30, 2019 at 11:00 AM (#5896325)
Bregman being Bregman, I think it's safe to conclude that he meant it as a troll job.


He was contrite afterwards


Adam Eaton hit a solo homer off Justin Verlander with one out in the fifth to tie it before Juan Soto launched a pitch into the second deck to give the Nationals the lead. Then the 21-year-old phenom mimicked Bregman by taking his bat with him before throwing it down at first base, just as Bregman had done four innings earlier.

What did Bregman think about that?

“I deserved it,” he said. “It was my fault and I apologize for doing it. I shouldn’t have done it.”


I saw the post game lockeroom video of him making these comments on Twitter. I can't find it now, but he seemed pretty sincere when saying these things.

Young guy...got carried away. It doesn't bother me in the least. And I loved Soto's response.

Don't know why people are so anti fun.
   24. SoSH U at work Posted: October 30, 2019 at 11:16 AM (#5896338)
Don't know why people are so anti fun.


Likewise, I'm not sure why people think unfun things are so fun.

I like celebrations that are spontaneous, joyful and inclusive. I don't like them that are narcissistic, choreographed or angry. When guys engage in Look at Me theatrics, I don't think it justified a ball to the ribs. But I also don't think there should be any handwringing if others think they're douches.

Sure, let the kids play. But let the old guys crank.

   25. KronicFatigue Posted: October 30, 2019 at 11:22 AM (#5896343)
This isn't a corollary to a subsection to a modified unwritten rule. This is basic human decency involving being a gracious winner. Gloating is bad. Bragging, self congratulations, and self promotion (in this way) are bad.

I get that this is sports and not a chess match, and emotions are high, but at the end of the day, I prefer humble reactions to success. Be excited for your team, but downplay your own individual success. I find the complex individual handshakes corny, bat flips obnoxious, and generally like my players to get off my lawn.

Every time a player successfully homers, there's a pitcher who's experiencing failure.
   26. manchestermets Posted: October 30, 2019 at 11:23 AM (#5896344)
I don't like them that are narcissistic, choreographed or angry.


But in what way was this any of those these things? He...carried a baseball bat while he jogged. How is that offensive to anyone? What evidence is there that it's anything other than, as TFA suggests, he got caught up in the moment and forgot to drop the bat?
   27. NJ in NY (Now with two kids!) Posted: October 30, 2019 at 11:40 AM (#5896360)
I have not watched a moment of live baseball since the Yankees were eliminated. Then my 12-person sports group text, which has largely moved on to football and basketball, exploded with activity at the dueling bat carries and I watched the last 4 or 5 inning of last night's game. I want more dueling bat carrying in my baseball. Thank you Bregman and Soto.
   28. SoSH U at work Posted: October 30, 2019 at 11:46 AM (#5896367)
But in what way was this any of those these things? He...carried a baseball bat while he jogged. How is that offensive to anyone? What evidence is there that it's anything other than, as TFA suggests, he got caught up in the moment and forgot to drop the bat?


If it were intentional, I suppose it could have been the former.

But the question I ask, how was it fun?
   29. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 30, 2019 at 11:53 AM (#5896373)
You think he did it to annoy you?
No, I think he did it to annoy the Nationals and/or to gloat and preen. I'm pretty sure Bregman doesn't much care what I think.
   30. gef, talking mongoose & vexatious litigant Posted: October 30, 2019 at 11:57 AM (#5896378)
By this time next year, we'll see guys handing it to the first base coach, then a couple months later waiting to hand it to the 3rd base coach, then finally just doing an entire trot with it.


I will not be impressed until such time as batters manage to balance the bat on their finger, or the top of their head, or the tip of their nose or chin for the entirety to the trot.
   31. PreservedFish Posted: October 30, 2019 at 12:00 PM (#5896383)
Bregman has an extremely punchable face. I don't know if that's his fault or not, but it's true.
   32. manchestermets Posted: October 30, 2019 at 12:02 PM (#5896386)
But the question I ask, how was it fun?


For him? Who's saying that it is? The only fun I can see anyone getting out of it is the tweet linked in post 9, and that seems to be just someone essentially saying "Ha, look at that doofus who forgot to drop his bat" and enjoying Soto's subsequent gentle mockery of it. There's a backlash going on here to something that didn't happen.
   33. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 30, 2019 at 12:02 PM (#5896387)
I find the complex individual handshakes corny,
Agreed. I know it's not the cool view to have around here, but the choreographed stuff is juvenile. I don't feel the need to do a dance routine with my co-workers every time we win a motion.
   34. SoSH U at work Posted: October 30, 2019 at 12:04 PM (#5896388)
Who's saying that it is?


Jack was. That's what I was responding to.
   35. RoyalFlush Posted: October 30, 2019 at 12:10 PM (#5896393)
Agreed. I know it's not the cool view to have around here, but the choreographed stuff is juvenile. I don't feel the need to do a dance routine with my co-workers every time we win a motion.


You holding baseball players to the same standard as a law office is more juvenile than the handshakes.
   36. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 30, 2019 at 12:11 PM (#5896396)
You holding baseball players to the same standard as a law office is more juvenile than the handshakes.
I know you are but what am I? You realize I wasn't being entirely serious with that "analogy."
   37. Lars6788 Posted: October 30, 2019 at 12:12 PM (#5896398)
If Soto had done this first or even Acuña Jr. [had he ever had the chance], I have a feeling this gesture would be less cute to the people saying they have no problens with it.

But Bregman is a plucky, upstart plays the game the right way and has no problems letting you know either.
   38. Blastin Posted: October 30, 2019 at 12:16 PM (#5896399)
But Bregman is a plucky, upstart plays the game the right way and has no problems letting you know either.


He's gritty and gutty and he's a sparkplug
   39. jmurph Posted: October 30, 2019 at 12:23 PM (#5896407)
I'm extremely anti-unwritten rules nonsense and generally on the opposite side of ElRoy in these discussions, but Soto's weird Matthew McConaughey poses between pitches is baffling to me, I can't believe he gets away with that. This is what taunting looks like, guys! Not players throwing their bat too high after hitting a homerun.

EDIT: I mean I personally find it funny, but I'm a Nats sympathizer so I can't pretend to be objective.
   40. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 30, 2019 at 12:31 PM (#5896415)
Yeah, I love Soto as a player, but he comes right up to the obnoxiousness line in some ways. I guess the difference between him and Bregman, for me, is that Soto doesn't seem to be as much of a generally arrogant redass. I mean, Bregman still carries a chip on his shoulder (and uniform #2 on his back) because the Diamondbacks "slighted" him by not drafting him #1 overall. But YMMV.
   41. Lars6788 Posted: October 30, 2019 at 01:05 PM (#5896436)
I love the confidence Soto shows at the plate - if he was a crappier player, maybe he’d actually be a clown, but the pre home run gestures in his at-bat vs Verlander was something else.
   42. Brian Posted: October 30, 2019 at 01:15 PM (#5896442)
I guess we should be happy that we had 36 posts before #37 was written.

Also, #38 is wrong. Bregman hits for power. You can''t be a gritty, gutty sparkplug and hit for power. They are mutually exclusive.
   43. JAHV Posted: October 30, 2019 at 01:19 PM (#5896445)
But in what way was this any of those these things? He...carried a baseball bat while he jogged. How is that offensive to anyone? What evidence is there that it's anything other than, as TFA suggests, he got caught up in the moment and forgot to drop the bat?


Because when you hit the ball, you drop the bat and run. That's how baseball is played. By carrying the bat, he's being obvious about the fact that he knows he hit the ball a long way and so he doesn't have to bother with dropping it and running. It's a "look-at-me" type of thing. Maybe it's not quite as bad as bat-flipping, but it's along the same lines. It was dumb when Bregman did it (and he knows it, hence the apology) and it was dumb when Soto did it. Drop the bat and run, people! It's not that hard.

Carrying the bat to first base, or watching a guy carry the bat to first base, is in no way fun. Watching Bregman hit a homerun is fun (or would be, if I were rooting for the Astros). Watching Soto hit a homerun is fun. Watching them stare at their hit as if admiring a masterpiece and then congratulate themselves for it in some way is not enjoyable to me. Although kids these days watch streams of other people playing video games, so I don't know. I guess I'm just old-fashioned.
   44. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: October 30, 2019 at 01:22 PM (#5896447)
I have also been surprised by the lack of criticism of Juan Soto, young fiery Latino player, for constantly doing his preening crotch grab routine. Maybe because he does it every at-bat no matter what, so it isn't directed at anybody in particular. Or because he does it before accomplishing anything, instead of as a celebration/taunt.

On Bregman carrying the bat too far, very strange discourse here between "I see nothing insulting in this, therefore he is doing it for fun" vs "I see nothing fun in this, therefore he is doing it as an insult". Maybe he isn't doing it for any reason. Maybe he wasn't even aware that he was doing it.
   45. JAHV Posted: October 30, 2019 at 01:50 PM (#5896473)
Maybe he isn't doing it for any reason. Maybe he wasn't even aware that he was doing it.


Alex Bregman has hit a baseball in a game thousands of times. He has dropped the bat on every one of those. He knew what he was doing.
   46. Joe Bivens, Slack Rumped Rutabaga Head Posted: October 30, 2019 at 01:59 PM (#5896480)
I didn't like the way Soto dropped the bat just before he got to first. I know the coach caught it on the bounce, but why make him make that play? Just hand it to him. He's not your mother, Mr. Soto. It's not his job to pick up your bat.
   47. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 30, 2019 at 02:03 PM (#5896482)

He's not your mother, Mr. Soto. It's not his job to pick up your bat.

Also, Mr. Soto, you're 20 years old. Don't make your mother pick up after you.
   48. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 30, 2019 at 02:03 PM (#5896483)
Bregman has an extremely punchable face. I don't know if that's his fault or not, but it's true.

Looks a little like Ted Cruz.
   49. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 30, 2019 at 02:07 PM (#5896490)
No, that's Tom Ricketts. He's a dead ringer for Cruz, and every bit as punchable.
   50. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 30, 2019 at 02:09 PM (#5896491)
No, that's Tom Ricketts. He's a dead ringer for Cruz, and every bit as punchable.

YMMV, but I looked up Bregman on BRef and my first thought was Ted Cruz with a less pointy nose.
   51. Howie Menckel Posted: October 30, 2019 at 02:16 PM (#5896496)
updating Post 8:

I have no idea what the hell I was doing, but I had pretty much retired like 20 years earlier so that seems like a defense.

I should add that I did not face any subsequent pitches "in my grill" - which, given that it is slow pitch softball, wouldn't have sent much of a message.

:)
   52. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: October 30, 2019 at 02:23 PM (#5896507)
Because when you hit the ball, you drop the bat and run.

If somebody told George Springer that before Game 1, we might not be having this conversation now.
   53. Karl from NY Posted: October 30, 2019 at 02:25 PM (#5896509)
I think every hitter should do this with their bat.
   54. The Duke Posted: October 30, 2019 at 02:29 PM (#5896516)
Didn’t Yadier Molina fire his bat into RF against the Braves as he was rounding first base on a game winning sac fly? No one said boo about this and his actions could have been dangerous
   55. Sunday silence Posted: October 30, 2019 at 02:31 PM (#5896519)
I asked them same thing during the game: What the hell is so bad about this? I get bat flipping, at least I get the idea. BUt so what?

THe ESPN announcers were so weird about it. I think it was Chris Singelton insisting that well Bregman might not get plunked but that he was certainly going to get a message pitch and that it was a major transgression.

And then later in the game he triumphantly said that he had just spoke with an umpire who agreed with him that he had never seen a player do that.

So how does NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE + CARRIES BAT = MAJOR TRANSGRESSION?

So weird.
   56. Sunday silence Posted: October 30, 2019 at 02:33 PM (#5896523)
I didn't like the way Soto dropped the bat just before he got to first. I know the coach caught it on the bounce, but why make him make that play?


I think the issue there was Soto wanted to make sure everyone knew that he was dropping the bat before he reached first. in some leagues you can be called out, as I think CFB or someone mentioned. Some of the announcers were saying something about rounding first with the bat, obviously not many knew what the rule/tradition here was, and I think SOto was just be cautious.

I loved it. If the NATS win it will be one of the defining moments of the series.
   57. Jose Is Absurdly Chatty Posted: October 30, 2019 at 02:53 PM (#5896551)
I found Bregman carrying the bat down the line pretty obnoxious. It's not the worst thing ever or anything but I didn't care for it. I don't have any problem with someone watching a homer or whatever but that just felt wrong. But of course I hate fun things.
   58. RoyalFlush Posted: October 30, 2019 at 05:18 PM (#5896646)
I know you are but what am I? You realize I wasn't being entirely serious with that "analogy."


LOL. You are all over this thread seriously calling another person a "douche", "redass" and talking about "preening" - as if you are aware of his motivations for every action. But I'm supposed to know that THIS particular stupid comment was the one joke? OK.
   59. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 30, 2019 at 05:32 PM (#5896650)
Right, because no one ever calls any public figure that they don’t actually know a ‘douche’ based on public words and actions.
   60. Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean Posted: October 30, 2019 at 05:52 PM (#5896656)
I think one thing to keep in mind is... how boring must it be to be a baseball player? Bregman has maybe 15 plays a game where he actually has something to do -- five at-bats and maybe ten balls in the field (and that's being charitable -- most of those "in the field" actions are things like backing up a base, routine popups or grounders, etc). Around those 15 plays, you spend a ton of time waiting around on the field or in the dugout, dealing with the media, training, practicing, traveling, and so on, all to gear up for those 15 plays a game. It's a deeply weird job.

Even aside from this rhythm, most baseball games don't really matter (though obviously a higher percentage than usual for Bregman and the Astros). Many of your 15 plays take place in the late innings of games that are already decided. Against this backdrop of irrelevance you hit a home run in Game 6 of the World Series, I don't care who you are, that's a standout event and you get to celebrate however you damn want.

Soto unquestionably wins this round though with the perfect response. I love that man.
   61. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 30, 2019 at 05:57 PM (#5896659)
By this time next year, we'll see guys handing it to the first base coach, then a couple months later waiting to hand it to the 3rd base coach, then finally just doing an entire trot with it.
If Bregman hits a HR tonight, there’s probably some chance he carries the bat all the way home, doing an elaborate routine that includes tossing the twirling bat high in the air while doing handsprings & backflips, causing Joe Torre to come down to the field to order the game forfeited to the Nationals. Controversy?
   62. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 30, 2019 at 06:03 PM (#5896660)
If Bregman hits a HR tonight, there’s probably some chance he carries the bat all the way home, doing an elaborate routine that includes tossing the twirling bat high in the air while doing handsprings & backflips, causing Joe Torre to come down to the field to order the game forfeited to the Nationals. Controversy?

If he doesn't ride it around the bases like a horse or a broomstick, I'll be disappointed.
   63. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: October 30, 2019 at 06:31 PM (#5896670)
It's going to be joyous watching people hate Soto in these next few years to come. And Bregman is America's greatest hero for setting the stage for Soto's bat routine.
   64. PreservedFish Posted: October 30, 2019 at 10:45 PM (#5896954)
Agreed. I know it's not the cool view to have around here, but the choreographed stuff is juvenile. I don't feel the need to do a dance routine with my co-workers every time we win a motion.

It might make your job more fun.
   65. Jack Sommers Posted: October 31, 2019 at 11:45 AM (#5897388)
Don't know why people are so anti fun.


Likewise, I'm not sure why people think unfun things are so fun.

I like celebrations that are spontaneous, joyful and inclusive. I don't like them that are narcissistic, choreographed or angry. When guys engage in Look at Me theatrics, I don't think it justified a ball to the ribs. But I also don't think there should be any handwringing if others think they're douches.

Sure, let the kids play. But let the old guys crank.


I wasn't handwringing. I was just commenting. Perhaps what I should have said is:

"I don't understand why two young elite athletes showing emotion in an unconventional way triggers so many people"

I'm just saying I don't understand people, such as yourself, getting upset over this kind of stuff. But far be it from me to tell you NOT to be upset. Crank away my friend ;)

   66. Howie Menckel Posted: October 31, 2019 at 11:48 AM (#5897391)
If he doesn't ride it around the bases like a horse or a broomstick, I'll be disappointed.

I'll put up my curmudgeon credentials against anyone, but for this I would have stood up from my couch and applauded!
   67. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 31, 2019 at 11:54 AM (#5897397)
What I can't figure out is why this was offensive. Seemed more like a premature senior moment to me.
   68. SoSH U at work Posted: October 31, 2019 at 11:56 AM (#5897399)
I'm just saying I don't understand people, such as yourself, getting upset over this kind of stuff. But far be it from me to tell you NOT to be upset. Crank away my friend ;)


I wasn't upset over it. I just don't understand why tossing a bat or carrying a bat to first base or some of the other things are described as fun. What makes these things fun? It's a guy carrying a bat to first base.
   69. PreservedFish Posted: October 31, 2019 at 11:59 AM (#5897403)
Because it's transgressive.
   70. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 31, 2019 at 11:59 AM (#5897405)
Yes - there's a significant difference between thinking something is obnoxious and getting upset over something.
   71. Jack Sommers Posted: October 31, 2019 at 12:07 PM (#5897410)

I wasn't upset over it. I just don't understand why tossing a bat or carrying a bat to first base or some of the other things are described as fun. What makes these things fun? It's a guy carrying a bat to first base.


I'm pretty sure it was fun for them.

EDIT: Also, cool....I wasn't handwringing and you weren't upset. So we're cool, right ?
   72. SoSH U at work Posted: October 31, 2019 at 12:10 PM (#5897414)
So we're cool, right ?


Sure.

   73. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 31, 2019 at 12:14 PM (#5897423)
I wasn't upset over it. I just don't understand why tossing a bat or carrying a bat to first base or some of the other things are described as fun. What makes these things fun? It's a guy carrying a bat to first base.

Yeah, I can't see how it's either fun or offensive. More like random stupid or prematurely senile.
   74. Jack Sommers Posted: October 31, 2019 at 12:27 PM (#5897437)
More like random stupid or prematurely senile.


You described most of my years between 14-60

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