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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Friday, December 09, 2011USA Today: Nightengale: From zero to $254 million, how the Pujols deal got done
So the mystery team served to knock the Marlins out of the picture, and kept things moving long enough for the Angels to get involved. I wonder what team was attractive enough to Pujols that their $225M was more attractive than Miami’s $270-300. Harold can be a fun sponge
Posted: December 09, 2011 at 09:48 PM | 28 comment(s)
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1. Shock has moved on Posted: December 09, 2011 at 10:54 PM (#4011962)Wow.
Never thought about that.
Ha. I hear they have great schools too.
What the hell does this mean? Nightengale knows the team but can't get their consent to publish their name?
When Glenn Robinson wanted a $100 Million contract, I think Herb Kohl said something like, I can give Glenn the Bucks and I'll take the contract.
It's the same thing that happened with Renteria after 2004. These guys get told over and over again that the Cardinals are disrespecting them by not offering more and blah blah blah.
I do think it's interesting that in the last 15 years, the Cardinals had McGwire, Edmonds, Rolen, and Berkman all re-up with the team months before hitting free agency, knowing they were leaving money on the table (Holliday is a bit of an outlier because I think he intended to stay, but allowed genius Boras to milk the Cardinals for all he could).
It's a small sample size - and let me preface this by saying that I don't think Pujols or Renteria are stupid or deficient for choosing to leave for more money* - but I think there's a cultural thing where foreign born players view all owners as different heads on the same beast, and don't really understand the disparity between media markets.
*Clearly in Pujols case, it wasn't just about the money or he'd have taken Florida's offer (which is even further from the pack after considering the tax codes)
My real problem is that Pujols basically led Cardinals fans to believe that winning was more important than money - that he'd remain a Cardinal for life, so long as they continued to surround him with a quality supporting cast - then he turns around and refuses to sign for anything short of A-Rod money.
The Cardinals were right to let him walk.
Mr Pujols? You can have my offer now, if you like. My final offer is this: nothing. Not even the meal money, which I would appreciate if you would put up personally.
That was my thought, too. But Nightengale specifically says there was no deferred money.
When the Fish took a timeout to meet with the commissioner's office in the middle of their Pujols negotiations, my thought was that they were thinking of one of those really long term deals that the Royals and Braves (Sutter) attempted way back when.
The Cards offered $40 million less than the Angels at the end. Forget about disrespect, the Cards just didn't offer enough.
That must have been when the Ike Davis trade talk started up.
And no state income tax, as opposed to what I'm guessing is a pretty high one in Cali.
David Samson said the Marlins "only" offered a little over $200M. I guess perhaps we should believe him, in spite of his being David Samson.
Not only that, but they followed the script of a team that does NOT want to resign their player, but wants to make him out to be the bad guy to the media. They started low, then upped their offer to just enough to look good but still far enough below the others to be sure the player would never take it. Call it the Thome/Clemens method.
Isn't there a good chance that he thinks the Angels are a better bet to win long-term? Or at least have an even chance?
1. The Cards' HoF manager is gone.
2. Other key players -- Berkman, Holliday, Carpenter -- are also on the north side of 30.
3. The Angels, despite having some old core players, were younger on average than the Cards last year (per BB-Ref).
4. The Angels still have their potential HoF manager.
5. The Angel owner says he wants to win and is writing the checks to prove it.
The Cards have been a strong organization and are likely to continue to be. But so are the Angels. Pujols seeing Arte's commitment to spend on him might have told him that he's really wants to spend to win.
And he might look forward to living in Los Angeles.
Haven't you heard, Anaheim is like 30 miles from Los Angeles.
Those simple brown people from other lands, with their naïveté about our MSAs and MSOs.
When our favorite athletes do something we hate, it's clearly their agent manipulating them. When they do something we like, it's because that's who they really are.
You are familiar with who is the owner of that team, aren't you?
Not in this case. For months they were at a standstill, with Fox offering $2B, and the Angels demanding $4B. Then the Pujols signing was announced, Fox moved their offer to $3B and Arte snapped accepted.
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