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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Friday, August 05, 2022Verlander’s latest gem cashes $25 million option for ‘23
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Posted: August 05, 2022 at 05:32 PM | 12 comment(s)
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1. Rally Posted: August 05, 2022 at 07:16 PM (#6090199)That is some odd phrasing.
Next season's salary is largely a function of how much Verlander wants to pitch next year ... not as in "at all" (I take it as a given for now he'll be pitching next year) but whether he wants one of those contracts Clemens got at the end of his career where he showed up just for the last 20 or so starts of the season and the postseason. I suspect the Dodgers would love him on a contract like that. The most unexpected bit of the Scherzer contract was their willingness to make it a multi-year guaranteed one. I could see the Astros approaching Verlander with something like 1/$30 M plus $15 M once he reaches 130 innings (if they like that magic number). Or maybe 1/$35 with a team option with a $10 M buyout. He will be 40, I'm not sure any team will want to guarantee 1/$45 or sign him for multiple guaranteed years.
Tom Brady marries a super model and plays at a supreme level longer than most anyone.
Yeah, like marrying a super model needed even more perks…
Been said a lot but winning 300 games is ridiculous. Verlander from age 23 to 36 had 12 out of 14 seasons of 200 IP+ (186 and 133 in the other two), averaging 212 IP/season, won 15 games or more 11 times, 17 or more 7 times, years of 24 and 21, for an average of 16 during that span and still was only at 225 (yes, that’s how maths work). Obviously an all-time career and hard to express any disappointment, but he would have had a real shot at 300 without missing 2020 and 2021, even with the COVID shortened season.
I’m pretty sure I remarked in a game chatter in ‘08 that he’s a good pitcher, but he’d probably drive me crazy on my team because his stuff looked so good yet his results were inconsistent and thought he was a touch overrated. In an online career of dumb remarks, this probably aged the worse. A reverse Verlander if you will.
I am a little surprised he only has 4.1 bWAR/3.8 fWAR, good for 4th among pitchers on BBREF (not even in the top ten overall). Alcantara leads with 5.9 in 28 more innings which makes sense, Max Fried is second with 4.6 in 8 more innings but a relatively pedestrian 162 ERA+ compared to Verlander’s 221.
The most recent pitcher to have a chance at 300 was Mike Mussina, who retired with 270 following a very good 20-win season in 2008. He had 536 career starts. Prior to that, Randy Johnson, 301 wins in 603 starts. Greg Maddux had 305 wins in 604 starts following 2004. Clemens? 310 in 607 starts after the 2003. (Glavine needed a lot more starts to get his 300th)
Plenty of active wins leaders are right around 50%. Scherzer is at 48%, Kershaw at 49%. Wainwright is exactly at 50%.
Grienke and DeGrom are a lot lower, but neither is getting to 600 anyway. So was CC, but he was cooked after 560 either way.
Verlander is at 51%. Does he have another 125 starts left in him? Maybe. He might only need 100 — he's won more than 60% of his starts in Houston. But that's still 3 years of perfect health from 40-42. That's a lot to ask.
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