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Washington Post opinion editor says Texas Rangers should drop their name because legendary lawmen they’re named after are a ‘cruel, racist force

An opinion editor for the Washington Post penned a scathing column calling on the Texas Rangers baseball team to retire its name due to the history of violence against black and indigenous people behind it. 

Global Opinions editor Karen Attiah made her case on Monday after the Washington Redskins dropped their name in the face of fierce criticism over its racist connotations. 

Attiah argued that the Rangers, based in Arlington, Texas, had avoided the same scrutiny because the history of the Texas Rangers law enforcement squad is not widely known. 

‘To know the full history of the Texas Rangers is to understand that the team’s name is not so far off from being called the Texas Klansmen,’ Attiah, who is black, wrote…

In her column Attiah points out that the Rangers’ pattern of violence against nonwhites continued for decades after the perceived threat from Indian tribes had dissipated. 

‘The Rangers oppressed black people, helping capture runaway slaves trying to escape to Mexico; in the aftermath of the Civil War, they killed free blacks with impunity,’ she wrote.

‘In the early 20th century, Rangers played a key role in some of the worst episodes of racial violence in American history along the Texas-Mexico border.

 

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   1. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: July 15, 2020 at 11:04 AM (#5963026)
They should drop the name because the Ranger was always nasty to Yogi Bear.
   2. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 15, 2020 at 11:09 AM (#5963029)
My cousin in Texas, who thinks that the flu is worse than COVID-19 and since we don't shut down for the flu why are we getting suckered by this COVID conspiracy, will not be pleased to hear this.
   3. Astroenteritis Posted: July 15, 2020 at 11:23 AM (#5963033)
The history of the Texas Rangers is pretty well known here in Texas. It's not a proud history.

On a lighter note, the Dallas Rangers of Arlington would be an appropriate name.
   4. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: July 15, 2020 at 11:36 AM (#5963035)
Blackwater Nine or GTFO
   5. Zonk. Person. Man. Camera. TV. Posted: July 15, 2020 at 11:49 AM (#5963040)
Weird.

I assume assumed the team was named after Rangers of the Elvish sort... Now I feel really dumb for my participation in that protest about the Orcs.
   6. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 15, 2020 at 11:52 AM (#5963041)
Just change the mascot to Aragorn.
   7. Rally Posted: July 15, 2020 at 12:10 PM (#5963046)
Aragorn married an elf, but he had only a tiny bit of elvish blood himself, born more than 6000 years after his ancestor, Elros. Elros, the brother of Elrond and his wife’s uncle. Weird on the elf side, but with 6000 years on the human side I’m sure we’d all find we’re related to our spouses.
   8. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 15, 2020 at 12:15 PM (#5963047)
Elros, the brother of Elrond
Eh, #### those guys too.
   9. Sweatpants Posted: July 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM (#5963049)
The history of the Texas Rangers is pretty well known here in Texas. It's not a proud history.
The Astros' wasn't much better until they started stealing signs.
   10. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: July 15, 2020 at 12:27 PM (#5963051)
Sometimes I wonder why middle earth didn't get overrun with elves, what with them being immortal and all. Unless Feanor was working on the pill before he got around to the Silmarils.

Elrond had three children, that's 0.9 children above replacement. Not going to get him on the all-star team or anything, but it'll keep the elf population humming along nicely.
   11. PreservedFish Posted: July 15, 2020 at 12:31 PM (#5963053)
I'm not sure the Tolkien Rangers aren't implicated - on a map of Middle-Earth, Mordor is the shape of Anatolia, Minis Tirith is Constantinople, civilization's last bulwark against barbarism, and all people south and east are "swarthy" and evil, against whom the Rangers have secretly labored for generations. At least the Jews were on the good guys.
   12. Eric L Posted: July 15, 2020 at 12:35 PM (#5963054)
I was never ok with the ancient Elrond parenting the equally ancient Arwen.
   13. winnipegwhip Posted: July 15, 2020 at 12:35 PM (#5963056)
Lets get rid of team names. Let's refer to them as George Kell would do on Tiger broadcasts...

"Now up to bat is Tom Herr. He just came over from the St. Louis club in the National League."
   14. winnipegwhip Posted: July 15, 2020 at 12:37 PM (#5963058)
We should figure that an article would come from a person with that name....my kids just told me what a "Karen" was last week.
   15. Mayor Blomberg Posted: July 15, 2020 at 12:41 PM (#5963060)
Well, it's absolutely and documentably true.

Here's how things have changed among younger folk: In the 90s, when I first started teaching in Houston, I put the Rangers as a research topic for historical context in a class I was teaching. A student gave a report that focused on their treatment of nonwhites and I thought about three minutes into it there's be a riot (where was the Ranger?). Fortunately, the student's own grandad had been a Ranger and that helped save her and the moment.

Today that report simply wouldn't raise an eyebrow.

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return to silliness
   16. Zonk. Person. Man. Camera. TV. Posted: July 15, 2020 at 12:52 PM (#5963065)
Sometimes I wonder why middle earth didn't get overrun with elves, what with them being immortal and all. Unless Feanor was working on the pill before he got around to the Silmarils.


Because they are actually native to planet Vulcan.

Duh.

Where do you think the genetic predisposition to pointy ears and logical sermonizing comes from?
   17. Paul Antonissen Posted: July 15, 2020 at 12:56 PM (#5963067)
We should figure that an article would come from a person with that name....my kids just told me what a "Karen" was last week.


I think your kids lied to you.
   18. Mayor Blomberg Posted: July 15, 2020 at 01:15 PM (#5963072)
I think your kids lied to you.


They should have their parent taken away
   19. BrianBrianson Posted: July 15, 2020 at 01:42 PM (#5963078)
"Now up to bat is Tom Herr. He just came over from the St. Louis club in the National League."


St. Louis is named for the guy who lead the Cathar genocide, only King of France to be made a saint by the Catholic Church ... there's a lot of ways to find that problematic, too, if you like.
   20. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: July 15, 2020 at 01:46 PM (#5963079)
Are the Texas Rangers bad today, relative to law enforcement overall? I was never aware of the history, but I assume any law enforcement organization has a bad history if you go back far enough. I always just thought of the team name as being based on the Texas Rangers of the Chuck Norris variety, not a historical reference.
   21. Mayor Blomberg Posted: July 15, 2020 at 01:51 PM (#5963080)
Are the Texas Rangers bad today, relative to law enforcement overall?


Nor sure where I'd find the database, but the larger point, Dave, is that's not what the name is honoring.
   22. Mayor Blomberg Posted: July 15, 2020 at 01:53 PM (#5963081)
This history was not unknown when published.
   23. Mayor Blomberg Posted: July 15, 2020 at 01:57 PM (#5963082)
Louis IX 1214-1270

Albigensian Crusade 1209-1229

Wrong Louie? Crusade began under the reign of Philip II continued under Louix VIII, and ended under his wife after his death in 1223, unless 9 y.o. Lious IX was running the show.
   24. Tin Angel Posted: July 15, 2020 at 01:57 PM (#5963083)
How about changing it to the Texas Rainbows?
   25. puck Posted: July 15, 2020 at 02:17 PM (#5963086)
My cousin in Texas, who thinks that the flu is worse than COVID-19 and since we don't shut down for the flu why are we getting suckered by this COVID conspiracy, will not be pleased to hear this.

He will see those attributes as a feature rather than a bug then.
   26. Rally Posted: July 15, 2020 at 02:31 PM (#5963089)
“Sometimes I wonder why middle earth didn't get overrun with elves, what with them being immortal and all. Unless Feanor was working on the pill before he got around to the Silmarils.“

Maybe elves have longer gestation periods. If an elf female is pregnant for a century, that would be a big incentive to have a smaller family.
   27. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 15, 2020 at 02:48 PM (#5963095)
You are getting ready to show your ignorance now, Blomburg. I don't mind a little personal chaffing but I won't hear anything against the Ranger troop from a man like you.
   28. Mayor Blomberg Posted: July 15, 2020 at 02:50 PM (#5963096)
You are getting ready to show your ignorance now, Blomburg. I don't mind a little personal chaffing but I won't hear anything against the Ranger troop from a man like you.


I hear ... HORSES! HORSES!

Holy crap, they remade True Grit!?!?!
   29. sunday silence (again) Posted: July 15, 2020 at 02:51 PM (#5963097)
I assume any law enforcement organization has a bad history if you go back far enough


Im not sure this is a good defense for modern day teams names that are anachronistic.
   30. Mayor Blomberg Posted: July 15, 2020 at 05:08 PM (#5963181)
Im not sure this is a good defense for modern day teams names that are anachronistic.


Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2021 Texas Donutmunchers
   31. winnipegwhip Posted: July 15, 2020 at 05:38 PM (#5963187)
Dallas Assassins?
   32. JRVJ Posted: July 15, 2020 at 05:44 PM (#5963191)
10, ways I figure, fecundity isn't the Elves strong suit.

Don't concentrate so much on the Riverdell/Lothrolien/Eregion Elves. Think of the Sindar / Mirkwood Elves. Those guys were pretty tuned-in to the forests where they lived, and they didn't overrun it or grow in population to the point that they were all over Greenwood the Great.

In fact, the one thing I've always thought when reading the Silmarillion is that the Elves basically World War I themselves during those battles, to the point that by the end of the First Agre, the Elf population of Middle-Earth is minuscule (versus what it had been).
   33. Hank Gillette Posted: July 15, 2020 at 06:00 PM (#5963196)
I submitted the original Washington Post article, and it did not make the cut. Are articles behind a paywall no longer allowed?
   34. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: July 15, 2020 at 06:00 PM (#5963197)
Maybe elves have longer gestation periods. If an elf female is pregnant for a century, that would be a big incentive to have a smaller family.


I'm not sure if it's ever addressed in Tolkien, but given the elves' affinity for the earth and all growing things, I would think they're either consciously or subconsciously aware of the affect their immortality has on potential over-population and depletion of resources. Outside of Feanor and his seven sons, I'm not aware of any large elven families.

I don't know how the elves came up in a discussion of Rangers, though; the Rangers were the Dunedain, the last remnant of the (human) Northern Kingdom of Arnor that had been established by Isildur. Elladan and Elrohir sometimes rode with the Dunedain, but they weren't part of that group by heritage and I don't think they were considered true Rangers.

As an Angels fan, I'm predisposed to hate the Texas Rangers on general principle, but even I have to admit that it would be awesome if they changed their name to the Texas Dunedain. Unless we're worried about the Dunedain's history with orcs and trolls and the men of Carn Dum.

(And yes, I know there's an accent mark over the 'u' of Dunedain, but I'm too lazy to figure out how to do that.)
   35. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 15, 2020 at 08:11 PM (#5963221)
I submitted the original Washington Post article, and it did not make the cut. Are articles behind a paywall no longer allowed?

I've submitted several articles that for whatever reason didn't make the cut, including this one just yesterday. I just assume that the Red Sox fans who dominate this site will essentially veto any article that views any Yankee favorably, other than maybe Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig or Mickey Mantle.

Bernie Williams Deserves More Credit For Making The Yankees A Dynasty

The Yankees would end up winning four out of five titles from 1996 to 2000, a run interrupted only by a loss to the Cleveland Indians in the 1997 ALDS.

Throughout that entire run, the Core Four clearly played massive roles in New York’s dominance. But Williams outshone almost all of them. According to WAR, only Jeter (25.9) provided the Yankees with more regular-season value than Williams (24.5) during the span of those World Series-winning seasons. Likewise, only Jeter (48.9) generated more weighted runs created (wRC) in the postseason for the Yankees over that span than Williams (38.6) did.4 By any measure, Williams was (at worst) the second-best position player on a team that ranks among the greatest dynasties in baseball history. ...
   36. Hank Gillette Posted: July 15, 2020 at 09:02 PM (#5963240)
I've submitted several articles that for whatever reason didn't make the cut, including this one just yesterday.


I thought the site was desperate for more articles. I guess I was misinformed.
   37. puck Posted: July 15, 2020 at 09:10 PM (#5963242)
Gus McRae and Woodrow Call were also famous Texas Rangers of pop culture. That was a pretty modern story (1985) and they out and out went down to Mexico to steal cattle to start their cattle run.
   38. JJ1986 Posted: July 15, 2020 at 09:16 PM (#5963244)
Poor Bernie got screwed by the Core Four #### which was supposed to just be a way to exclude A-Rod, but somehow lived on.
   39. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 15, 2020 at 10:47 PM (#5963257)
I've submitted several articles that for whatever reason didn't make the cut, including this one just yesterday. I just assume that the Red Sox fans who dominate this site will essentially veto any article that views any Yankee favorably, other than maybe Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig or Mickey Mantle.
I think the problem may be that most of the people who are authorized to green light submissions seem to only be interested in posting their own, and ignore other submissions that may be queued up. At least that’s what the time stamps seem to suggest on some of my prior submissions. A lot of folks have noted problems getting submitted articles posted in a timely fashion, but nothing seems to have been done, which seems to have led to fewer folks making the effort to submit articles.
   40. Cooper Nielson Posted: July 16, 2020 at 04:07 AM (#5963282)
Wait till she finds out about the baseball team in Pittsburgh!
   41. TJ Posted: July 16, 2020 at 07:19 AM (#5963289)
Primate Nation has been accused of being nerds living in their mothers basement. This conversation is evidence that those accusations may have merit. Hope Dan Shaughnessy never gets wind of it...

Oh, and as for the Texas Rangers, just change the name to the Texas Chucks in honor of Chuck Norris and all will be good. No one questions Chuck Norris and lives to tell the tale...

PS- Elvish chicks are hot.
   42. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 16, 2020 at 10:50 AM (#5963336)
I think the problem may be that most of the people who are authorized to green light submissions seem to only be interested in posting their own, and ignore other submissions that may be queued up. At least that’s what the time stamps seem to suggest on some of my prior submissions. A lot of folks have noted problems getting submitted articles posted in a timely fashion, but nothing seems to have been done, which seems to have led to fewer folks making the effort to submit articles.

Could be. That article I submitted on Tuesday just got posted this morning.

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Poor Bernie got screwed by the Core Four #### which was supposed to just be a way to exclude A-Rod, but somehow lived on.

It also might be that the term didn't really take off until Sports Illustrated ran a "Core Four" cover story in 2010, well after Bernie had retired, but just months after the Yankees had won the World Series with Jeter/Jorge/Mo/Pettitte still on the team.
   43. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: July 16, 2020 at 11:22 AM (#5963340)
Outside of Feanor and his seven sons, I'm not aware of any large elven families.


Well, Finwe had 5 children. As did his son Finarfin.
   44. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: July 16, 2020 at 12:14 PM (#5963356)
They'd have to change the name of the New York Rangers, too, since they were (indirectly) named for the Texas Rangers, too.
   45. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 16, 2020 at 12:21 PM (#5963357)
At a certain point a name becomes associated with the newer thing more than the historical thing, and then why bother? The Texas Rangers are a baseball team to 90 percent of people outside of Texas. It's arguable to change the name, I guess, just seems like nobody really cares. This came up recently with my alma mater, Rutgers. There was some chatter about changing the name because Henry Rutgers was a slaveowner. But nobody knows who Henry Rutgers is or gives a #### about Henry Rutgers. He's just some rando who made a donation back in the 1820s. To 99.9999 percent of people, Rutgers is a university name and a hapless football team and that's it.

   46. Howie Menckel Posted: July 16, 2020 at 12:30 PM (#5963360)
Rutgers is the only U.S. state university that doesn't have, you know, the state name in it.

so it already seems kinda dumb, slave-owning donor aside.
   47. Mayor Blomberg Posted: July 16, 2020 at 12:36 PM (#5963367)
Andy, That's somewhat my suspicion about "Core Four," except I seem to remember hearing it for the first time during the 2009 postseason. Either way, it involves the 96-09 run.
   48. SoSH U at work Posted: July 16, 2020 at 12:48 PM (#5963373)
Rutgers is the only U.S. state university that doesn't have, you know, the state name in it.


Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that New Jersey is the only state that doesn't have a state university system with the state name in it? Purdue and Auburn are state universities.
   49. Mayor Blomberg Posted: July 16, 2020 at 12:52 PM (#5963375)
The proper, correct, and official name of the system, please, is Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey.

Get it right.
   50. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 16, 2020 at 01:02 PM (#5963380)
Holy crap, they remade True Grit!?!?!
So much better than the original.
   51. Booey Posted: July 16, 2020 at 01:15 PM (#5963388)
#45 - That's pretty much the same argument that Yale is making, right?
   52. Rally Posted: July 16, 2020 at 01:20 PM (#5963389)
Well, Finwe had 5 children. As did his son Finarfin.


You'd think somewhere along time there would be some outliers, the Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar elf equivalents, who would have something like 5,000 offspring.
   53. Rally Posted: July 16, 2020 at 01:22 PM (#5963392)
At a certain point a name becomes associated with the newer thing more than the historical thing, and then why bother? The Texas Rangers are a baseball team to 90 percent of people outside of Texas.


Baseball fans are a minority as it is, my guess is that if you mention "Texas Rangers" to a random sample of the population, most people would think of Chuck Norris first.
   54. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: July 16, 2020 at 05:14 PM (#5963455)
There was some chatter about changing the name because Henry Rutgers was a slaveowner.

I'm calling it now: Rutgers will change to "New Jersey State" by 2025.

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