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Saturday, May 09, 2020

We Can Show Baseball Reruns, Too

Many old threads have gone into the site archives. They’re so deep in there that even Google can’t find them. Some of them were fantastic, and it’s a shame that we can’t see them any more… Or can we?

While TV networks are rebroadcasting old baseball games as we all await the return of MLB, this site can rebroadcast, too. Here’s what I propose. In this thread, tell me what old thread you’d want to be brought back from the archives. In the coming weeks, I will dig around to see if I can bring some of them back. I might even be able to reopen them for commenting for a week or two.

villageidiom Posted: May 09, 2020 at 02:59 PM | 64 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 09, 2020 at 04:04 PM (#5949055)
Best article or best comments? The Shooty Challenge Thread is a BBTF favorite!
   2. RickG Posted: May 09, 2020 at 04:12 PM (#5949058)
The genesis of Option J.
   3. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: May 09, 2020 at 04:21 PM (#5949060)
The Death of Derek Jeter from 2006

Nomar rescues 2 women from Boston Harbor from 2005

I think we outdid ourselves with these 2
   4. Howie Menckel Posted: May 09, 2020 at 06:14 PM (#5949087)
Petco!
   5. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: May 09, 2020 at 06:26 PM (#5949090)
The Jeremy Gianni-John Mabry thread was a good one.

The Hurricane Katrina thread is probably an interesting time capsule, in the same way that the the coronavirus threads will be one day.
   6. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: May 09, 2020 at 06:41 PM (#5949095)
Also, while it is a bummer to relive, the thread on John Brattain’s passing was one that really underscored to me how much of a community this place was/is, and how well we had gotten to know someone who many of us had never met in person. And it is a reminder of what a great soul John was/is. Can’t believe that was 11 years ago. Wow.

Link.

   7. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 09, 2020 at 10:43 PM (#5949122)
#6 - Very much a bittersweet thread, worth reading or rereading, if anyone missed it, or forgot the jokes.
   8. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: May 09, 2020 at 11:33 PM (#5949127)
The long ass ASG thread, played at YS. I started in MKE, drove to Indy, lurked or posted on both ends of that game. Inner circle thread.
   9. Howie Menckel Posted: May 09, 2020 at 11:55 PM (#5949130)
from the Brittain thread:

40. another poster Posted: March 25, 2009 at 05:01 AM (#3113846)
After my brother died in 2001, I dove into researching baseball to take my mind off of the grief. I stumbled upon Baseball Reference, and onto Baseball Primer shortly afterward. It's amazing the ways in which my life has changed during the eight years I have been a part of this community.

John's voice was one of the constants through the years.

............

so in that beautiful spirit:

People will come.

They’ll come to BBTF for reasons they can’t even fathom. They’ll turn into our internet driveway, not knowing for sure why they’re doing it.

They’ll arrive at our door, as innocent as children, longing for the past (and hoping for a future).

“Of course, we won’t mind if you look around,” we’ll say, “And it’s only an optional twenty dollars annually per person.”

And they’ll pass over the money (via PayPal) without even thinking about it - for it is money they have, and peace about who belongs in the Hall of Fame (and Hall of Merit) that they lack.

They’ll wander off to the Baseball Primer Newsblog section and sit in their mother's basement on a perfect afternoon, and find they have a reserved seat somewhere along the couch where they sat when they were children.

They'll cheer their posting heroes, and they'll read a favorite thread, and it’ll be as if they’d dipped themselves in magic waters.

The memories will be so thick, they’ll have to brush them away from their sun-deprived faces.

People will come to BBTF.

The one constant through all the years has been posters like - though, sadly, never equal to - John Brattain.

BBTF has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It’s been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt (and occasionally knocked offline) and erased again.

But BBTF has marked the time. This site, these threads, are a part of our past.

It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.

Oh, people will continue to visit BBTF. People will most definitely still visit.
   10. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 10, 2020 at 03:02 AM (#5949144)
The one with the Who lyrics. Kind of hard to Google that description, though. (Unless it's an episode title for "Friends.")
   11. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 10, 2020 at 07:49 AM (#5949147)
How much can I get for not re-posting the steroids threads? (smile)
   12. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: May 10, 2020 at 01:54 PM (#5949189)
I would be forever indebted if you can find the original lyrics to the Carl Everett "How's the knee?" rap. Does it help any that part of it went something like

Carl:
Three years later, Carl be playin' in Japan.

Carl's posse:
How's the knee?
How's the knee?
   13. Walt Davis Posted: May 10, 2020 at 07:15 PM (#5949244)
#10: That was a Larry Walker thread. I tried but couldn't find it. Something about Larry Walker "won't get fooded again" or Walker asking somebody "who are you" or something. Best one I recall was "pictures of Ted Lilly" which still didn't turn it up but did let me know that apparently Lilly was charged with felony insurance fraud at some point. (Unless there was another thread with Who lyrics.)
   14. bobm Posted: May 10, 2020 at 10:59 PM (#5949266)
   15. bobm Posted: May 10, 2020 at 11:03 PM (#5949268)
   16. bobm Posted: May 10, 2020 at 11:05 PM (#5949269)
   17. bobm Posted: May 10, 2020 at 11:07 PM (#5949270)
   18. bobm Posted: May 10, 2020 at 11:10 PM (#5949271)
   19. bobm Posted: May 10, 2020 at 11:11 PM (#5949272)
   20. bobm Posted: May 10, 2020 at 11:12 PM (#5949273)
   21. bobm Posted: May 10, 2020 at 11:22 PM (#5949275)
   22. PETCO Thread Posted: May 10, 2020 at 11:37 PM (#5949276)
I am legend.
   23. Gch Posted: May 10, 2020 at 11:48 PM (#5949278)
Best one I recall was "pictures of Ted Lilly" which still didn't turn it up but did let me know that apparently Lilly was charged with felony insurance fraud at some point. (Unless there was another thread with Who lyrics.)


I didn't remember this so I had to look it up:

An investigation by the state Department of Insurance found a crash damaged Lilly's RV, and the two-time All-Star pitcher sought an estimate from a body shop on March 19, 2014. The estimate was $4,600.

Lilly then bought insurance from Progressive on March 24 and claimed the damage on March 28, said Nancy Kincaid, a spokeswoman for the agency.


How does this happen? He made 80 million in his career (not bad for a 23rd round pick, although Roy Oswalt was taken four picks ahead of Ted and made almost 97 million) and he risks jail time over a few thousand? I know a lot of players manage their money poorly, but shouldn't that just have been ashtray money for Ted?
   24. bobm Posted: May 10, 2020 at 11:48 PM (#5949279)
   25. bobm Posted: May 10, 2020 at 11:56 PM (#5949280)
   26. bobm Posted: May 11, 2020 at 12:05 AM (#5949282)
   27. Esoteric Posted: May 11, 2020 at 12:11 AM (#5949283)
There was an amazing thread about John Sickels, the baseball guy, which someone turned into a pun on Dan Sickles the semi-obscure Civil War general and then there were 7 pages of people just grognarding out about the Civil War, WWII, etc. That might be my all-time favorite off-topic BBTF thread.

EDIT: Ah, found it: Sickels: George McClellan, Dayton Moore, and the Kansas City Royals
   28. bobm Posted: May 11, 2020 at 12:15 AM (#5949284)
   29. bobm Posted: May 11, 2020 at 12:16 AM (#5949286)
   30. bobm Posted: May 11, 2020 at 12:37 AM (#5949290)
   31. bobm Posted: May 11, 2020 at 12:45 AM (#5949291)
   32. bobm Posted: May 11, 2020 at 12:48 AM (#5949293)
   33. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 11, 2020 at 12:54 AM (#5949294)
September 28, 2011 - Games 162 Game Chatter
The time stamps seem to be off by ~ 3 hours, maybe there was a disturbance in the space time continuum that night?
   34. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: May 11, 2020 at 11:01 AM (#5949353)
   35. Howie Menckel Posted: May 11, 2020 at 11:19 AM (#5949355)
Post 34, say hello to Post 1
   36. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 11, 2020 at 01:53 PM (#5949433)
Post 34, say hello to Post 1
It’s worth reading twice - a BBTF classic!
   37. bobm Posted: May 11, 2020 at 02:29 PM (#5949447)
March 02, 2010 - Flood: Jeff Francoeur vs. the People of the Internet

I've got a hell of a lot more problem with the rest of the people flying than I do the airlines, particularly when the guy in front of me reclines his seat all the way back into my damn lap. And no, pushing my seat back into lap of the poor shlep behind me is not an equitable solution. That's like fixing the problem of my neighbor to the south throwing his garbage in my yard by dumping my garbarge in the yard of my neighbor to the north.
   38. Hysterical & Useless Posted: May 11, 2020 at 03:41 PM (#5949468)
I think this is a fantastic idea! I've been coming here since pre-registration days, though there have been some gaps (usually times when I wasn't working, so I didn't need a place to go to practice avoidance) which I would love to fill in. Pretty sure I missed both Tina and Petco.

I looked through the Tina thread; there are a LOT of missing comments. Are those gone because the posters have been banned (or deleted their accounts)?
   39. Greg Franklin Posted: May 11, 2020 at 05:41 PM (#5949492)
From the old BTF wiki, the circa 2011. Great Primer Threads are section 4, other running jokes are preserved.

GPT

Main_Page

I liked the Ring Dings thread.
   40. phredbird Posted: May 11, 2020 at 07:58 PM (#5949552)

argh, this is way too meta for me ...

flipping through the list of primates in the old wiki, i'm surprised at how many of the original cohort don't post here anymore ...
   41. spanx for the memories Posted: May 12, 2020 at 02:07 AM (#5949638)
The Giambi/ Mabry thread and the Sickles threads were both my favorites as those were some of the less confrontational conversations at the time. Plus I think I contributed to under an old alias I had at the time to at least 1 of them
   42. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: May 12, 2020 at 09:15 AM (#5949669)
Post 34, say hello to Post 1


It’s worth reading twice - a BBTF classic!


My mistake - here's your Coke. Don't let it come out your nose while reading that thread a third time.
   43. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: May 12, 2020 at 10:22 AM (#5949690)
In retrospect, I think we may have been overreacting to the Giambi/Mabry trade.

It's also kind of funny that Mabry had more than his total career value in the second half of 2002.
   44. philphan Posted: May 12, 2020 at 01:15 PM (#5949746)
A highlight of the Larry Walker/Who thread is this serious comment by Walt Davis:

Walker's not going to make the HOF, barring a miracle of modern medicine.

Not including Cs and with the glaring exception of Kirby Puckett and his career-ending injury, the writers haven't elected a position player with fewer than 2,360 gp (Stargell) since Snider (2,143) in 1980.

Larry Walker has 1,888 games. Even "short career" Ron Santo had 2,243. Walker needs at least 300 more games and probably 500 more games to get in. If by some miracle he does that without killing his rate stats, it will depend on whether the writers over-correct for Coors.

Right now his OPS+ and gp puts him in the same area as Reggie Smith, Jack Clark, Norm Cash, Frank Howard, and others in the Hall of the Ouststanding but not for Enough Games (the HOONEG is next door to the Hall of the Very Good).

There's also the "eww" factor. If Walker gets in, there's little reason to keep Will Clark out.


Your move, Mr. Clark.
   45. SoSH U at work Posted: May 12, 2020 at 01:23 PM (#5949751)
That seems like quite a change from Walt's position on Walker these past few seasons.

   46. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: May 12, 2020 at 01:33 PM (#5949753)
Clark was a weird duck. He's the only guy who lost power with the advent of silly ball.
   47. philphan Posted: May 12, 2020 at 01:52 PM (#5949762)
Wow, the Great 2004 Trade Deadline thread is so interesting to read. Mets fans rightfully ballistic over the trade of Kazmir, but also getting majorly worked up over the loss of Justin Huber. And meanwhile, as a footnote to the NY-Pitts-KC deals involving Kris Benson, everyone pissing on José Bautista, who had not yet turned into Jose! Bautista!

And baudib arguing in favor of the Kazmir deal by likening him to that failing Phillies prospect Cole Hamels. Never draft high school lefthanders, apparently....
   48. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 13, 2020 at 02:46 AM (#5949955)
November 24, 2001 - Angelos Protects His Turf
Interesting thread. Luckily for the Nationals, securing a Washington, DC stadium site on METRO wasn’t as difficult as predicted.
   49. villageidiom Posted: May 13, 2020 at 01:56 PM (#5950113)
That seems like quite a change from Walt's position on Walker these past few seasons.
The world's in a spin now. It's time for a change.
   50. Hysterical & Useless Posted: May 16, 2020 at 06:16 PM (#5951263)
The "Shooty Challenge" thread is open for comments! Hooray!
   51. Greg Franklin Posted: May 22, 2020 at 11:28 PM (#5953062)
Wednesday, August 27, 2008
Chicago Tribune: Sun-Times columnist Jay Mariotti resigns


In the site's early days, Mariotti and "CHB" (Dan Shaughnessy) were widely hated exemplars of the controversial bomb-throwing sports columnist. Hence this thread where Primates commented on his demise, and another thread covering Roger Ebert's shot at him and his departure.

Jay's antics were so well known that in a lost chatter thread from 2003, a Primate created the "big fraud who poops his pants" gag as "NTR Jay Mariotti". wiki for 'big fraud who poops his pants'

Mariotti is still alive, though not working as a big-name sportswriter any more. Just this week, taking advantage of his Chicago connections, he was a guest on one radio show discussing "The Last Dance" and, I presume, whether Michael Jordan was a big fraud who pooped his pants.
   52. Best Dressed Chicken in Town Posted: May 23, 2020 at 01:02 PM (#5953122)
Link to the zip code thread?
   53. Randomly Fluctuating Defensive Metric Posted: May 23, 2020 at 04:51 PM (#5953143)
March 02, 2010 - Flood: Jeff Francoeur vs. the People of the Internet


Crazy story about the Francouer / Delta thing. I have a Sunday ticket plan to Yankees games. And naturally you begin to get to know the people consistently sitting in your vicinity. I'd had a few interesting conversations with this rotund fella from upstate New York who actually sits in the seat next to mine. He's a devoted, old-school kinda fan, tends to take a pessimistic view most of the time, complains about Boone's "matrix bullshit," while managing. (reference to analytics)

Anyhow, this fella's son came to a night game last year. He and I are about the same age, in our early thirties. He had the pleasantly affable business-person thing going on, like he was paying close attention to everything I said in case I could somehow end up being a viable customer for his product. Lo and behold, after doing my usual jig over not being settled into a career yet (recovering journalist, eternally suffering writer) I inquired about his gig. He told me he was a rep for Delta, and actually had been involved with advertising campaigns involving MLB players. The reference flew over my head in the Bronx's humid evening air. We redirected our conversation about the Yankees, and were in the middle of discussing the rotation, when suddenly the light-bulb flickered, and his eyes seemed befuddled as I suddenly exclaimed, "Wait, were you involved with the whole Jeff Francouer campaign? With the blog posts and stuff," and his face seemed to be replying, "why do you seem to care so much?"

I've been mainly lurking on this site since 2005. When I was posting a lot, much of what I said was emotional and reactionary. Though I may have made the occasional salient point. I hope all of you are safe and hanging in there during these tough times. I miss the ballpark. I miss the games. We'll get back there. Thanks for this thread. Had a hell of time on a rainy afternoon reliving the '04 trade deadline. When men were men and .OBP was basically the only thing that mattered in evaluating player performance.
   54. Bhaakon Posted: May 24, 2020 at 05:20 AM (#5953202)
How does this happen? He made 80 million in his career (not bad for a 23rd round pick, although Roy Oswalt was taken four picks ahead of Ted and made almost 97 million) and he risks jail time over a few thousand? I know a lot of players manage their money poorly, but shouldn't that just have been ashtray money for Ted?


I have no insight on Ted Lilly. I do work a job where I interact with a lot of wealthy, competitive retirees. It is absolutely amazing the lengths some of them will go to weasel out of paying a bill that is, for them, literally pocket change. A jackass is a jackass is a jackass, and context doesn't change that.
   55. Gch Posted: May 24, 2020 at 01:06 PM (#5953238)
I've been mainly lurking on this site since 2005. When I was posting a lot, much of what I said was emotional and reactionary. Though I may have made the occasional salient point. I hope all of you are safe and hanging in there during these tough times. I miss the ballpark. I miss the games. We'll get back there. Thanks for this thread. Had a hell of time on a rainy afternoon reliving the '04 trade deadline. When men were men and .OBP was basically the only thing that mattered in evaluating player performance.


I remember making my MVP Baseball team correspond to these principles, only to have many doubles fall in the gaps between my immobile outfielders. Luckily catcher defense really didn't matter in that series, so Matt LeCroy became the lefty mashing legend that he should've been in real life.

I have no insight on Ted Lilly. I do work a job where I interact with a lot of wealthy, competitive retirees. It is absolutely amazing the lengths some of them will go to weasel out of paying a bill that is, for them, literally pocket change. A jackass is a jackass is a jackass, and context doesn't change that.


That's true, but I'm still somewhat surprised that there was nobody around who was willing to and capable of talking him out of it.
   56. bobm Posted: May 24, 2020 at 03:47 PM (#5953257)
[52] Link to the zip code thread?

July 08, 2009 - Crew chief: Umpire told Jeter he was tagged by Rolen in stolen base attempt

6. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: July 08, 2009 at 12:48 PM (#3245588)
or even if he doesn't but lays the glove somewhere in same zip code

ZIP codes consist of a set of points and lines, NOT a polygonal area. One is not "in" a ZIP code, one's postal delivery point has a ZIP code.
   57. McCoy Posted: May 24, 2020 at 08:16 PM (#5953297)
Where's the Rizzo binders full of medical evidence discussion for strasburg?
   58. McCoy Posted: May 24, 2020 at 08:25 PM (#5953298)
   59. McCoy Posted: May 24, 2020 at 08:28 PM (#5953299)
   60. Lassus Posted: May 24, 2020 at 08:42 PM (#5953301)
The San Diego extra-inning All-Star game thread.
   61. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: May 24, 2020 at 09:50 PM (#5953306)
I was in the "polygons" camp until I realized that the earth is round, so the plane on which your polygons lie is going to touch it at, at most, one point.
   62. kcgard2 Posted: May 29, 2020 at 12:04 PM (#5954333)
What? The local topography within any zip code is likely to touch the plane at very, very, very many points. In fact, there's no reason the zip code plane couldn't be imposed at the lowest elevation within the zip code and then the entire zip code would be touching the plane.
   63. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: May 29, 2020 at 12:09 PM (#5954336)
Yeah, yeah, of course the Earth isn't actually round. Gimme a break here.

But also, if you put it at the lowest elevation, most of the zip code will be above the plane. Plane's haven't got any height.
   64. Hysterical & Useless Posted: May 30, 2020 at 10:39 AM (#5954480)
Plane's haven't got any height.


Tough for them to take off if they don't get any height, innit?

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