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We want OMNICHATTER!, not a belly-itcher, for May 3, 2021

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Hombre Brotani Posted: May 03, 2021 at 12:34 PM | 30 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Hombre Brotani Posted: May 03, 2021 at 01:33 PM (#6016661)
HOW WILL THE ANGELS LOSE TODAY?!
   2. Walt Davis Posted: May 03, 2021 at 05:09 PM (#6016697)
Ohtani scratched from start sounds like an unfortunate possibility.
   3. Howie Menckel Posted: May 03, 2021 at 05:34 PM (#6016701)
minor league promos include:

Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp (Triple-A affiliate of the Miami Marlins)
"The Ocean Called..." bobblehead giveaway, July 10

In the "Seinfeld" episode "The Comeback," George Costanza gorges on shrimp cocktail during a work meeting. This inspires co-worker Reilly to say "Hey, George, the ocean called; they're running out of shrimp."

"Everyone does a Seinfeld Night. We needed to figure out a way to tie it us," said Jumbo Shrimp promotions director David Ratz. "So we're doing a bobblehead of George stuffing his face with shrimp."

   4. RoyalFlush Posted: May 03, 2021 at 06:25 PM (#6016707)
Looking forward to watching Daniel Lynch start for the Royals tonight vs. the Indians. This is much earlier than I figured Dayton Moore would/should go to a prospect for help, but it's hard not to be excited. Leads me to believe that Bobby Witt Jr could be added sooner rather than later.
   5. Walt Davis Posted: May 03, 2021 at 06:49 PM (#6016710)
You folks probably already knew this but yesterday's Cubs game answered a question I was wondering about ... Kimbrel came on in the 10th with the magic runner on 2nd, immediately gave up a single to take the loss -- but the run is unearned. Seems correct to me but I wasn't sure that's how it was scored.

Some folks have opined that closers don't like to come in with men on base and you should always let them start the inning. That's not possible in extras any more. I doubt that was true but has anybody looked yet to see if closers are pitching worse in extras under the new rule?
   6. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: May 03, 2021 at 07:24 PM (#6016713)
Red Sox all over the place. After dropping the first 3 to start the season to the O's, then cruised along before dropping 3 of 4 to the Rangers recently. That's 7 losses to really cr*p teams. Now that they're up against Detroit, I expect them to the struggle mightily over the next couple of days....
   7. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 03, 2021 at 07:36 PM (#6016714)
Also from the link in # 3:
Charleston RiverDogs (Low-A affiliate of the Tampa Bay Rays)
Toilet Paper Night, June 26
When it comes to commemorating 2020, the RiverDogs are taking a satirical approach. Toilet Paper Night, which the team lists as its "number two" promo of the season, is dedicated to remembering when toilet paper was America's hottest commodity. The first 1000 fans in attendance receive a complimentary roll.
I thought everyone had already gone full Scarlet O’Hara - “I Will Never Be Short of TP Again!”
   8. Walt Davis Posted: May 03, 2021 at 08:11 PM (#6016717)
One of the ads in my facebook feed is a "get a monthly TP delivery to your door" service which I am guessing did not exist in Jan 2020 and finds themselved slightly overstocked in 2021.

I valiantly tried to keep the panic going by pointing out that people were so overstocked on tp that obviously the entire tp industry would collapse in late 2020 due to lack of demand, meaning we all needed to STOCK UP NOW. That didn't work.

TP Night is not likely end well. What's the over/under on number of rolls streamed across the field? But at least no worries about the stalls being out of TP.
   9. Howie Menckel Posted: May 03, 2021 at 08:36 PM (#6016721)
Cardinals lead, 1-0
Mets have 2nd and 3rd, one out, after the CF stupidly throws home while Alonso was standing on the third base bag after a single. an alert Met then scampers to second.

then the Cardinals walk the No 7 hitter (was it Pillar, or Villar?) to load the bases for No 8 Nido the backup catcher.

Mets announcer Gary Cohen calls the second-inning move "shocking" and muses, "well, we'll see if Shildt is a genius or..... something short of that." you can tell which way Cohen is leaning.

first pitch, Nido HBP drives in a run. P Lucchesi whiffs, but then Wainwright - who got squeezed a bit here and there - walks McNeil to make it 2-1.

coulda been worse, but The Worst Hitter In Baseball - Francisco Lindor - quickly whiffs for the second time in 2 innings to end the threat.
   10. Snowboy Posted: May 03, 2021 at 08:49 PM (#6016723)
[5] Walt I noticed the unearned run thing for first time last week. The report said Kyle Schwarber won the game with a 2-run leadoff HR in bott10. I thought "you ninnys this is what you get when you have unpaid interns writing the stories for you" but as I checked the score etc, Schwarber was the leadoff hitter, but there was a little Casper who wafted over 2B before the AB, and although the pitcher got the L and gave up the dinger, he was not charged an earned run for the ghost.

Seems fair? Manfred put him at second, not the pitcher. But it's also weird, because the ghost is real in every other way. There could be a pickoff, caught stealing, rundown, run scored, double play, whatever, and those stats would all be counted.

Also, good q about pitcher performance in extras. Probably out of the stretch with a runner on. And <insert name here> Troy Percival was not the same with runners on vs full windup.
   11. cardsfanboy Posted: May 03, 2021 at 08:57 PM (#6016725)
You folks probably already knew this but yesterday's Cubs game answered a question I was wondering about ... Kimbrel came on in the 10th with the magic runner on 2nd, immediately gave up a single to take the loss -- but the run is unearned. Seems correct to me but I wasn't sure that's how it was scored.



I did the same thing, and looked it up after the Cardinals victory, in extra because of the runner, I was also curious whether or not it was an inherited runner (it's not classified as that)
   12. cardsfanboy Posted: May 03, 2021 at 08:58 PM (#6016726)
Arenado ties the game with a 3 run homerun, after striking out and fooling the ump into thinking he actually fouled the ball.
   13. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: May 03, 2021 at 09:00 PM (#6016727)
Ohtani scratched from start sounds like an unfortunate possibility.

Well, he was HBP on his right elbow yesterday (he wears a huge elbow brace over it, but I'm sure it still hurt). He's still in the lineup tonight, so probably just pushing back the start a day or few.
   14. JJ1986 Posted: May 03, 2021 at 09:03 PM (#6016731)
Joey Lucchesi getting knocked around and the Mets only get their long reliever - Gsellman - up throwing with the pitcher's spot due next. It's only one at bat, but they're going to waste it instead of bringing in a short reliever here to get the final out.
   15. Howie Menckel Posted: May 03, 2021 at 09:14 PM (#6016736)
2 outs and nobody on, and Carlson facing an 0-2 count - the Mets gambled that Lucchesi wouldn't follow with the single single HR double double parlay.

but he did. wonder if he'll be DFA when Carrasco returns in about 10 days

and a kid named Thor is reportedly throwing his hammer 97 mph, too, ahead of a June return
   16. salvomania Posted: May 03, 2021 at 09:32 PM (#6016741)
Mets announcers reliving Cards-Mets 2006 NLCS (Wainwright on the mound tonight) and Keith is recalling J.D. Drew, saying he never became the player everyone thought he would be, "he was good, but he was no Wainwright."

Career bWAR:
Wainwright: 36.7
Drew: 44.9
   17. salvomania Posted: May 03, 2021 at 09:54 PM (#6016742)
Is it just me or does it seem like infield positioning has evolved to the point where most hard grounders up the middle ARE NOT base hits?
   18. cardsfanboy Posted: May 03, 2021 at 09:58 PM (#6016743)
Mets announcers reliving Cards-Mets 2006 NLCS (Wainwright on the mound tonight) and Keith is recalling J.D. Drew, saying he never became the player everyone thought he would be, "he was good, but he was no Wainwright."

Career bWAR:
Wainwright: 36.7
Drew: 44.9


More proof that war just doesn't capture the value of a plus starting pitcher in this day and age. (mind you, your numbers did miss Waino's 4.1 batting war)
   19. Walt Davis Posted: May 03, 2021 at 10:16 PM (#6016747)
#17, we have a whole thread (sorta) on that topic. The answer is we have no idea but BAgb is quite low so far this year ... but still to the tune of 8 fewer hits per 1,000 gb and it's April and it might be the ball not the positioning or ...

A very quick eyeball of the raw stats suggests that up-the-middle production for LHB (regardless of GB/FB/LD) is in free-fall the last couple of years. In 2019, they hit 342/562; in 2020, 315/499; in 2021 296/466. RHB are down too but not nearly as much and they have such a huge advantage when they pull it, I'm not sure it matters much and it has moved roughly coincident with opp-field. Given the LHB ISO up the middle is also down substantially, presumably it's about more than GB.

But as I mention in the other thread, it's really hard to compare these raw numbers. If the guys generating higher EV are also concentrating on FBs now, it could be that the average GB of today is not as hard-hit as even 4-5 years ago. Plus of course the shortened 2020 and being only a month into 2021.
   20. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: May 03, 2021 at 10:18 PM (#6016748)
Is it just me or does it seem like infield positioning has evolved to the point where most hard grounders up the middle ARE NOT base hits?


Did you maybe hear about this thang called the SHIFT ?!
   21. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: May 03, 2021 at 10:21 PM (#6016749)
Wow, 3 inches left called a strike... border patrol !
   22. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: May 03, 2021 at 10:24 PM (#6016750)
Edman it !
   23. Hombre Brotani Posted: May 03, 2021 at 10:29 PM (#6016752)
It wasn't that long ago that Jose Quintana was good, right? Because right now, he's ####### terrible.
   24. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: May 03, 2021 at 10:33 PM (#6016754)
Looks like an easy win for the Cards.
   25. Snowboy Posted: May 03, 2021 at 10:59 PM (#6016756)
Non-HOF SP age in dog years after 30.
   26. Hombre Brotani Posted: May 03, 2021 at 11:56 PM (#6016760)
Shohei Ohtani just hit his 9th homer, a no-doubter off Tyler Glasnow.
   27. Walt Davis Posted: May 04, 2021 at 12:30 AM (#6016767)
Non-HOF SP age in dog years after 30.

Jeff Fassero did awfully well in his 60s and 70s.

EDIT: And Moyer lasted well into his 100s. :-)
   28. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 04, 2021 at 12:32 AM (#6016768)
Yeah, it was really sad when they finally had to put Moyer down.
   29. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 04, 2021 at 12:52 AM (#6016773)
Well, if the Angels do lose today, it will be with Pujols finishing the game at third base. Kind of rooting for extras to see how this goes.
   30. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 04, 2021 at 01:09 AM (#6016774)
The “Closers can’t pitch well in non-save situations” BS is still very strong in the Angels’ broadcast booth.

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