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Weekend OMNICHATTER for July 8-10, 2022

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Hombre Brotani Posted: July 08, 2022 at 02:49 PM | 93 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 08, 2022 at 04:46 PM (#6086003)
A sad day for baseball: Famed Dodger Peanut Vendor Prohibited From Tossing Nuts:
And, from the list of disappearing Dodger Stadium traditions, this just in: You can buy a bag of peanuts from Roger Owens, but he can’t throw the bag to you any more. … Owens has pitched peanuts at presidential inauguration festivities, on “The Tonight Show,” and in two movies and three television series in which his role was always the same: peanut vendor. His wedding guests included Tom Bradley, then the mayor of Los Angeles, and Don Sutton, the Dodgers’ Hall of Fame pitcher.
. . .
Owens still is pitching peanuts on the loge level, to fans who have become friends over the decades. Several of those fans reached out to The Times to say Owens has been ordered not to throw bags of peanuts any more. Just hand them to the customer, please. The show has gone dark.

I called Owens to see if this could possibly be true. Yes, he said, it is. “I’m so heartbroken about this,” he said.
. . .
Levy Restaurants runs the concessions at Dodger Stadium. If fans asked why he could no longer pitch his peanuts, Owens said he was told by Levy representatives to say the decision was made for the safety of the fans. That, indeed, is what the fans who reached out to The Times said Owens had told them.
Maybe the Angels should hire him?
   2. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 08, 2022 at 07:25 PM (#6086021)
LeMahieu single, Carpenter nailed by HBP, and Torres single, give the Yankees a 1-0 lead @ Red Sox in 1st.

EDIT: Donaldson’s 3-run HR (#9) to LF (361 feet) makes it 4-0. Seabold may eventually be a fine pitcher (or not), but he doesn’t look MLB-ready at the moment.
   3. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 08, 2022 at 08:00 PM (#6086023)
Carpenter hammers the LF wall for a RBI-double, 5-2 NYY.

Earlier on 3-2 pitch to Aaron Judge, NESN broadcaster Dennis Eckersley asked (paraphrasing) “How do you call strike 3 on the best player in the game on ball that is clearly down? From a rookie?” Who had been wild all night, one could add.
   4. Walt Davis Posted: July 08, 2022 at 08:24 PM (#6086029)
Late update but Angels 3-0 over O's on a Trout HR. And I see Jonathan Villar has surfaced with the Angels, playing 3B and leading off(?) tonight.
   5. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 08, 2022 at 08:24 PM (#6086030)
Red Sox look pretty pathetic right now.
   6. Jay Seaver Posted: July 08, 2022 at 08:26 PM (#6086031)
Mildly surprised that Cora didn't pull Arroyo for JBJ while he was out there.
   7. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 08, 2022 at 08:27 PM (#6086032)
Hicks BB, Trevino double, then Gallo flies to RF, and Arroyo never sees it, as it falls 50 feet behind him, scoring 2 runs, although Gallo was thrown out at the plate ‘stretching’. 7-2. Seabold leaving game, due to injury as no one was warming up, and he was clearly the sacrificial lamb tonight. Eck seems a bit down on the BoSox.
   8. Walt Davis Posted: July 08, 2022 at 08:29 PM (#6086033)
#3 ... in fairness, "low" to Judge is belt-high for most guys, ump mighta called it out of habit. (And of course whether it's a wild rookie with Mitch Meluskey behind the plate or Verlander with Molina behind the plate, a strike should be a strike and a ball a ball.)
   9. Walt Davis Posted: July 08, 2022 at 08:35 PM (#6086034)
O's starter Tyler Wells out after 4 innings. Didn't pitch too badly -- mainly the Trout HR -- but it was 81 pitches, 6 hits, 2 BB so hardly a masterful performance.
   10. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 08, 2022 at 08:48 PM (#6086036)
Matt Carpenter drills a HR (#9) to RF (411 feet) to lead off the 4th, 8-2 NYY.
   11. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 08, 2022 at 08:58 PM (#6086037)
Imagine all the things Chris Sale would be destroying if he was at this game.
   12. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 08, 2022 at 09:04 PM (#6086039)
#3 ... in fairness, "low" to Judge is belt-high for most guys, ump mighta called it out of habit. (And of course whether it's a wild rookie with Mitch Meluskey behind the plate or Verlander with Molina behind the plate, a strike should be a strike and a ball a ball.)

You just made another good argument for bringing in robo-umps. Judge has had more incorrectly called strikes on him than any other player, both this year and in his career.
   13. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 08, 2022 at 09:12 PM (#6086040)
#3 ... in fairness, "low" to Judge is belt-high for most guys, ump mighta called it out of habit. (And of course whether it's a wild rookie with Mitch Meluskey behind the plate or Verlander with Molina behind the plate, a strike should be a strike and a ball a ball.)
The 1st & 2nd points are more than a bit at odds, no?
   14. Walt Davis Posted: July 08, 2022 at 09:47 PM (#6086041)
The first comment was what some might call a "mildly humorous comment" with respect to Mr. Judge's substantial height. The second is a more serious comment on Mr. Eckersley's implication that a rookie doeesn't deserve the same strike zone as a veteran, especially when facing a star batter ... which I think we all know is sometimes how it works in practice but is still not something we should be arguing for.

If one prefers to take both comments as an attempt to have a serious discussion on strike zones then yes, Andy's point that robo-umps would address this particular scenario is correct. I might personally prefer something closer to tennis where the player can appeal a call (with some limit) then "Hawkeye" pops up and gives us a couple seconds of "tension" as we await the robo-ump's decision. But I seem to get substantially less upset about the floating strike zone than many around here so I don't care much if we ever see robo umps and would be content with the obviously bad umps getting booted.
   15. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 08, 2022 at 09:50 PM (#6086042)
Kris Bryant making a late bid for the All-Star team with a first-inning homer off Zac Gallen.
   16. Walt Davis Posted: July 08, 2022 at 10:08 PM (#6086044)
Raising the question of who should rep the Rox. Your leading candidates:

CJ Cron, 136 OPS+ at 1B
Blackmon as an undeserving nostalgia pick
Chad Kuhl, 123 ERA+ in 15 starts (yes, the old Pirates guy)
Daniel Bard, 209 ERA+ and 17 saves (probably the guy)
Alex Colome, 182 ERA+ but no reason to pick him over Bard

Their ages: 32, 35, 29, 37, 33

Maybe both Bard and Cron will make it after Freeman drops out because he's heartbroken the game's not in Atlanta.
   17. cardsfanboy Posted: July 08, 2022 at 10:18 PM (#6086045)
I'm in the Andy camp. I love my home town catcher and love the skills of framing etc... but f-that, I want an accurate consistent call all across baseball. When it's possible to use technology to accurately make a call, the insistence of humans doing it, seems archaic.
   18. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 08, 2022 at 10:24 PM (#6086046)
Cron has been the Rockies best player, but the NL is stacked at first base. He's third in the majors in RBI, and also third among NL first basemen in RBI.
   19. Hombre Brotani Posted: July 08, 2022 at 10:38 PM (#6086047)
Trout with a 3-run homer, Ohtani with a homer. Angels bullpen gives up five runs in the last three innings. Iglesias gets two outs, then allows double, double, single, wild pitch, single, and the Angels lose again.
   20. Walt Davis Posted: July 08, 2022 at 10:39 PM (#6086048)
Sure but it's pretty common for three 1B to make the team and this year with the universal DH it seems nearly guaranteed for the NL. The top NL DH was Harper but he's hurt. The next best "close to full-time DHs but barely on pace for 502 PA" are Voit (118 OPS+) and Vogelbach (122). Maybe I've missed some but I don't see enough slugging NL OFs to slide the extras to DH. Still, I assume that every successful closer with an ERA to match makes the team, especially if they're from a crap team so Bard seems close to a lock.
   21. Jay Seaver Posted: July 08, 2022 at 10:45 PM (#6086049)
As much as position players pitching has become less fun, I can't lie - I wanna see how Jackie Bradley Junior's arm translates.
   22. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 08, 2022 at 10:48 PM (#6086050)
Cron just missed his 21st homer and had to settle for doubling off the center field wall in Arizona.
   23. Srul Itza Posted: July 08, 2022 at 10:49 PM (#6086051)
Six runs is unlikely, but using a position player here?

Why not just walk and forfeit, if you think the game is lost.

Of course, I always remember the Rocky Colavito game. I listened to that game on the car radio. They had him pitch starting fairly early, but down by only 5 runs. He pitched multiple innings, and the Yankees came back and took the lead 6-5, so he got the win.

   24. Jay Seaver Posted: July 08, 2022 at 10:56 PM (#6086053)
I hate waving the white flag against the Yankees on principle, but they're already planning a bullpen game for tomorrow, so...

Incredibly frustrating how the starting pitching that was a rock what seems like just a week or two ago has just completely evaporated/gone to the IL.
   25. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 08, 2022 at 10:56 PM (#6086054)
Presumably Alonso, Goldschmidt and Freeman are all in line ahead of Cron. I suppose one of them will replace Harper at DH, which helps.
   26. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 08, 2022 at 11:09 PM (#6086055)
Red Sox have yet to win a series against a team in their own division, but are a playoff team if the season ended today. Their AL East games are probably too backloaded to do that over the full season, but I wouldn’t have thought it likely over half a season.
   27. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 08, 2022 at 11:25 PM (#6086056)
Hold that All-Star selection: Cron just took a fastball off the hand and had to leave the game. At least it forced in a run.
   28. The Duke Posted: July 08, 2022 at 11:30 PM (#6086057)
Wainwright finishes up CG for Cards and will lose 2-0 after Wheeler completely shuts down Cardinals offense. Don't see CG losses much anymore
   29. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 09, 2022 at 12:07 AM (#6086060)
Kris Bryant with his second homer tonight. Man, does that look good.

Bryant over the past week: .370/.414/.778. We'll take it.
   30. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 09, 2022 at 12:48 AM (#6086062)
Bryant bidding for his third homer in the ninth inning, settles for a double off the fence in center.
   31. Walt Davis Posted: July 09, 2022 at 01:22 AM (#6086065)
Cubs lose. Robertson gives up the tying run in the 9th. Cubs can't score in the 10th thanks to Freeman digging out a Steve Sax special. Dodger 10th inning lasts 6 pitches. Another fine start for Keegan Thompson, 5.2 IP, 8 K, 2 H, 1 BB, 1 UER.
   32. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 09, 2022 at 02:06 AM (#6086069)
I had heard on here that the Cubs bullpen is bad, but finally got to see it firsthand.
   33. shoelesjoe Posted: July 09, 2022 at 10:04 AM (#6086073)
You just made another good argument for bringing in robo-umps. Judge has had more incorrectly called strikes on him than any other player, both this year and in his career.


They’re making up for all the strikes middle-in that are called balls on Rizzo.
   34. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 09, 2022 at 10:38 AM (#6086074)
Incredibly frustrating how the starting pitching that was a rock what seems like just a week or two ago has just completely evaporated/gone to the IL.

What goes around comes around. Last year and even in Spring training this year, it was the Yankees' starting pitching that was considered its Achilles heel.

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You just made another good argument for bringing in robo-umps. Judge has had more incorrectly called strikes on him than any other player, both this year and in his career.

They’re making up for all the strikes middle-in that are called balls on Rizzo.


Which is yet another good argument in favor of robo-umps. What if Judge and Rizzo were on different teams?
   35. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 09, 2022 at 11:49 AM (#6086076)
This argument makes no sense. SOMEBODY has to be the hitter with the most incorrectly called strikes on him, and Judge, who takes an awful lot of pitches and has an unusual strike zone, seems as good a candidate as any.

Somewhere out there, there's a pitcher who has had the most incorrectly called balls on him this year. If it turned out that pitcher played for my favorite team, that wouldn't make it a good argument for robo-umps.
   36. The Duke Posted: July 09, 2022 at 03:15 PM (#6086085)
Cards attempting to match last nights offensive futility.
   37. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2022 at 03:33 PM (#6086087)
Cards attempting to match last nights offensive futility.


It's been an ugly few days for the offense, sadly the pitching has been good but not good enough. (runs scored 0/3/0 vs runs allowed 3/2/2)
   38. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 09, 2022 at 04:03 PM (#6086089)
This argument makes no sense. SOMEBODY has to be the hitter with the most incorrectly called strikes on him, and Judge, who takes an awful lot of pitches and has an unusual strike zone, seems as good a candidate as any.
Well, it’s not like these are just random errors - up, down, inside & outside. It’s mostly low strikes that are being repeatedly called on Judge that are actually below where his knee is. Multiple umpires making the same mistake over & over makes it more egregious, not less.
   39. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 09, 2022 at 04:18 PM (#6086090)
Kris Bryant homers again in the first inning at Arizona, his third in his last six plate appearances.
   40. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 09, 2022 at 04:34 PM (#6086093)
5 hits in 7.5 innings today in the Phils-Cards game. Some fine pitching plus a number of nice defensive plays, even by the lead gloved Phils.
   41. Walt Davis Posted: July 09, 2022 at 04:36 PM (#6086094)
What if Judge and Rizzo were on different teams?

Russia never invades Ukraine.
   42. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2022 at 04:38 PM (#6086095)
Edmonds not pulling any punches after they walked Corey Dickerson to start the 8th.. "I feel like you kinda deserve to lose after running a count to 3-2, lefty vs lefty and the batter hasn't played much lately and then throwing a slider."
   43. Walt Davis Posted: July 09, 2022 at 04:43 PM (#6086096)
I was trying to think whether any other sport has a rule (a major rule) that varies by individual. Muggsy Bogues didn't get a shorter basket (obviously not feasible but you know what I mean). The hole is just as far away from a small golfer as a big one. Tall/short batsmen in crickets don't get different-sized stumps.

Watching this Phils-Cards game, they shoulda started with ghost runners in the 6th inning.

Pujuls as PH ... and the Phils IBB him? Gotta get that leftie-leftie matchup I guess.

EDIT: Gorman 4-12 with 2 doubles and 2 BB vs LHP so far.
   44. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2022 at 04:43 PM (#6086097)
Albert comes in to pinch hit, and they immediately intentionally walk him before he even enters the batters box.
   45. Walt Davis Posted: July 09, 2022 at 04:46 PM (#6086099)
Gorman flies out. According to the gun, Alvarado of the Phils just threw him 5 sinkers of 100+ MPH.
   46. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2022 at 04:50 PM (#6086100)
Best opportunity to score a run, and it doesn't happen. This offense is just not showing up this week.
   47. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2022 at 04:51 PM (#6086101)
I have to agree with Edmonds here, bunt and hope for a sacrifice fly sounds like a good plan for Phillie.

And Gallegos/Goldy play it like idiots.
   48. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 09, 2022 at 05:00 PM (#6086102)
I was trying to think whether any other sport has a rule (a major rule) that varies by individual. Muggsy Bogues didn't get a shorter basket (obviously not feasible but you know what I mean). The hole is just as far away from a small golfer as a big one. Tall/short batsmen in crickets don't get different-sized stumps.
Reportedly, current robo-umpire technology is quite good on getting the 17 inch width of the plate right, but has some trouble adjusting up & down for the various-sized batters, so going to a standardized ‘average’ strike zone for everyone would make it easier for the robo-ump. I suspect that would be strongly resisted within MLB, but if MLB ever went to one strike zone for all, the biggest beneficiaries might be folks like Stanton & Judge, who would have much smaller strike zones, even if some of it would be lower than what the current rules are supposed to allow.
   49. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2022 at 05:08 PM (#6086104)
smh, a nearly perfect pitchers game for 8 innings, and in the ninth both teams make horrible defensive plays in the ninth.
   50. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2022 at 05:14 PM (#6086106)
wow, what a beautiful pitch by knebel to strike out Arenado.... huge curve with a full count. But fortunately Goldy was stealing on the pitch.

Phillies not walking Carlson, seems idiotic to me, but that seems to be the game plan.
   51. cardsfanboy Posted: July 09, 2022 at 05:16 PM (#6086107)
Worked out for the Phillies.

####### how hard is it to hit a sac fly in two at bats???
   52. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 09, 2022 at 06:41 PM (#6086109)
Phillies not walking Carlson, seems idiotic to me, but that seems to be the game plan.


Rob Thomson was probably afraid of Knebel’s control. He threw three terrible curve balls to Arenado before finally looping one in for strike three.
   53. Walt Davis Posted: July 09, 2022 at 07:07 PM (#6086110)
O's win again, 1-0. It's probably not so much time to break up the O's as it is time to give charity to the Angels but a good run.
   54. Walt Davis Posted: July 09, 2022 at 07:09 PM (#6086113)
Braves 4-3 over Nats. Nats made a game of it with runs in the 7th and 8th and runners left on all over the place but couldn't get the key hit.
   55. Hombre Brotani Posted: July 09, 2022 at 07:10 PM (#6086114)
The Angels had their chances -- which they don't always do, because they're just that bad offensively -- and failed to push across a single run. Outside of their two stars, that lineup really is catastrophically bad.
   56. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: July 09, 2022 at 08:31 PM (#6086123)
Another ball lost in the twilight by the Red Sox, but Matt Carpenter is out trying to make it to second.
   57. Walt Davis Posted: July 09, 2022 at 09:00 PM (#6086124)
A "Rizzo triple" gives the Yanks a 2-1 lead.
   58. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 09, 2022 at 10:37 PM (#6086128)
Judge’s leadoff double scores the Manfred Man (Trevino, a catcher, even) to give the Yankees a 4-3 lead in the 10th. More runs might be prudent.

EDIT: Rizzo double to right makes it 5-3.
   59. Hombre Brotani Posted: July 09, 2022 at 10:56 PM (#6086130)
A rare Yankee bullpen collapse.
   60. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: July 09, 2022 at 10:56 PM (#6086131)
SAWKS!
   61. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 09, 2022 at 10:57 PM (#6086132)
Bullpen and defense collapse.
   62. Walt Davis Posted: July 09, 2022 at 11:04 PM (#6086133)
So now everybody but our geriatric Yanks contingent can shift their attention to Cubs-Dodgers, 0-0 in the 4th. Stroman on the mound for the Cubs in his first one back from the IL.
   63. Hombre Brotani Posted: July 09, 2022 at 11:24 PM (#6086134)
Bummer that Stroman isn't going to get one more inning.
   64. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 09, 2022 at 11:39 PM (#6086135)
What do Cubs players say behind their manager's back? "Effross."
   65. Hombre Brotani Posted: July 10, 2022 at 12:07 AM (#6086136)
The new Lamb/Thompson DH platoon has worked fantastically for the Dodgers.
   66. Walt Davis Posted: July 10, 2022 at 12:41 AM (#6086137)
Cub pen doing their usual good work with 4 runs in 4 innings. (They have actually been about league-average on the year as a whole.)
   67. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2022 at 02:59 PM (#6086145)
Not sure how it happened, but the Cardinals scored a run today.... 1-1 in the second inning.
   68. Walt Davis Posted: July 10, 2022 at 03:06 PM (#6086147)
Phils' terrible defense did their best to make it more than one run but they couldn't quite pull it off. With Arenado on 2nd and Pujols on 1st, Nootbar cleverly slaps one agains the shift for a single to LF, scoring Arenado. However Phils' 3B doesn't seem sure whether he's now supposed to cover third or be the cutoff man for a throw home so he stands somewhere between those two spots. Albert sees nobody's covering third so he keeps going. LF doesn't bother to see if anybody is covering third and comes up firing. The throw bounces around in foul territory before its run down by ... the pitcher? ... and Albert thinks about it but wisely stays put.
   69. Walt Davis Posted: July 10, 2022 at 03:11 PM (#6086148)
By the way, that play was screaming out for the sort of field-wide camera that CFB was asking for the other day. We see the 3B start to break toward third but then the camera cuts to the LF and when we see the IF again, the 3B seems to be in no man's land, he's certainly not at third. This is where John Madden would whip out the magic pen (don't go there), draw a circle around the 3B and say "he was supposed to go this way (arrow) and this guy (another circle) was supposed to go this way (another arrow)."
   70. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2022 at 03:25 PM (#6086149)
I keep forgetting I have surfshark so I can watch the game live sometimes... apparently today is not one of those, I will need to reboot or something to make that happen.
   71. Walt Davis Posted: July 10, 2022 at 03:27 PM (#6086150)
Continuing with the modern baseball fan experience angle ... I noticed during yesterday's Yanks-Sox that Fenway now has a board displaying the pitch movement. I wasn't expecting that. There are now enough ballpark fans nerding out on statcast stuff to care? Or are people now laying bets on the over/under for horizontal movement?
   72. Walt Davis Posted: July 10, 2022 at 03:35 PM (#6086151)
Kids, at some upcoming Cards game, you can receive a Nolan Arenado growth chart! Don't all rush at the same time! And don't use HGH in hopes of matching Nolan's 6-2, 215 frame!
   73. yo la tengo (the poor man's Ron Darling) Posted: July 10, 2022 at 04:14 PM (#6086153)
Tijuan Walker has been looking great. If the Mets can get a healthy deGrom back, the top of their rotation is pretty formidable.
   74. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2022 at 04:21 PM (#6086154)
684, still unlikely to reach 700, but still that is a lot of homeruns. Tied for third all time in extra base hits, that is also impressive.
   75. yo la tengo (the poor man's Ron Darling) Posted: July 10, 2022 at 04:28 PM (#6086155)
The bottom of the Marlins order and the Nationals bullpen combine to make a possibly bad day for the Mets. Would have been nice to go into Atlanta with a 3.5 game lead
   76. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2022 at 04:41 PM (#6086157)
2nd and 3rd, no outs, losing 3-2.... heart of the order up, let's see how the Cardinals blow this.
   77. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2022 at 04:44 PM (#6086158)
ground out out to tie the game, man on third one out now with the third batter in the lineup up.

   78. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2022 at 05:07 PM (#6086159)
Albert with a 3 hit game.... Cardinals have 7 hits today, so of course we pull him because why have someone in the lineup who is hitting today.
   79. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2022 at 05:13 PM (#6086160)
The last couple of games has proven that we have too many relievers in the game, the Cardinals have effectively used their entire bench in multiple games while still have 3 or more relievers sitting on the bench. Goldy pinched hit for the catcher today.
   80. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2022 at 05:15 PM (#6086161)
Ump missed the call, he's absolutely 100% safe.

Edit: bases loaded one out, fly out to short center, throw beats the runner tagging up, but the tag is not perfect, tag missed the runner who is tagging the plate with his hand. Ump calls out.... immediately the Cardinals go to replay, and the first replay they show is clear he was safe, not even a debate, the defensive team knows the call is wrong enough that they went out to the field even before the replay became official. Maybe 30 seconds to confirm the obvious. That is what replay is for and how it should work.
   81. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 10, 2022 at 05:17 PM (#6086162)
Seranthony Dominguez iOS more like Serjeurys today — no command at all.
   82. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2022 at 05:38 PM (#6086164)
Yea the Cardinals win the game... honestly a somewhat weird game, but it worked out. It might be the last time Albert passes any semi-major career record (well he's actually tied for 3rd most extra base hits in history) The rest of the ranking records he is chasing is probably not likely outside of him getting a lot more playing time.


To give you an idea of goals he's probably chasing (some are important, some are just ehh)

Games played Albert 3018, Musial and Murray at 3026... he'll pass them for 6th all time, 5th all time is Cobb with 3034 so likely to pass that, Rickey at 3081... not really an option.

Homeruns 684.... Arod at 696 is next with 4th all time... unlikely but not impossible. 700 same, unlikely but not impossible. Ruth 714...impossible.
Runs scored 1884, next is Gehrig at 1888, should make that pretty easily for 12th all time, no way does he catch Jeter at 1923.
Extra base hits 1377 tied for third all time, next target is Bonds at 1440...not remotely going to come close to that.
Sacrifice flys... tied for 4th with Aaron at 121, 123 is third (Yount) 127 is 2nd (Ripken) and first is 128 (Murray) it's obvious a situation stat so it could potentially happen but it's all about opportunities.
Times on base 4805, Mays 4806... obviously will pass that point, but no chance at Collins 10th all time 4891... I mean it's possible but not likely
   83. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2022 at 05:41 PM (#6086165)
I Love Oli Marmol. Yes I have loved Whitey, Tlr, Matheny and Shildt also, but Oli's post game interviews are the most refreshing thing I've ever seen in baseball. He doesn't mince words, it feels like he's being honest when you watch his post game interviews.
   84. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2022 at 05:47 PM (#6086166)
In the post game conference they are asking Marmol about Pallante, and he's quoting stats in the post game interview "Pallante was throwing well, 74-77% of the balls hit were on the ground, sometimes they go through, but it's what we are looking for."

The fact that someone is quoting stats like that in the post game is probably a good reason why the Cardinals management made him the manager. They want people understanding the stats even when it's not working, the fact is this is what you want from your team type of thing and you accept the fact that sometimes it doesn't work out right.
   85. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2022 at 06:01 PM (#6086168)
Edman so far hasn't made the all star team, somewhat surprising to be honest. (But the Cardinals have Arenado, Goldy, Helsey and Pujols, so it might be hard to justify another Cardinal, even though he's a top player for the season this year, but he was still a 3.7 war player last year also)
   86. salvomania Posted: July 10, 2022 at 09:18 PM (#6086180)
Edman so far hasn't made the all star team,

He's also in the midst of a major slump over the last few weeks (.163/.202/.188 since June 17) that has dropped his OPS 100 points to just .698 (.256/.323/.375); regardless of what his WAR might be, a non-household-name middle infielder hitting .250 with little power who's split his time between 2 positions---is he a SS or a 2B?---isn't going to be named to the All Star team.

If he had played one position all year, and if he was, say, leading the league in SB, or in runs, or batting .300, and if he's a guy who'd been an All Star before so folks knew who he was, the *maybe* he'd have a shot.

   87. Dillon Gee Escape Plan Posted: July 10, 2022 at 09:21 PM (#6086181)
When will ESPN finally give Aaron Judge some recognition?
   88. cardsfanboy Posted: July 10, 2022 at 10:12 PM (#6086184)
When will ESPN finally give Aaron Judge some recognition?


When he becomes as good of a hitter as Matt Carpenter, I mean c'mon he can't even outhit a scrub minimum wage player on a per rate basis.....
   89. Howie Menckel Posted: July 11, 2022 at 10:17 PM (#6086314)
always amusing when the Mets broadcast booth calls out really stupid managerial decisions.

Mets have 1st and 3rd, none out, top 9, 3-1 lead, and an All-Star unhittable closer in Edwin Diaz (70 K in 35 IP, best in MLB).

the Braves - maybe they thought they were winning? - play the infield back to play for the DP.

as the booth pointed out, the Mets would be perfectly content with a DP - and thus a 4-1 lead.

instead, Alonso hits a mild grounder to third that the Braves can only convert into a force at second base.

and here is Diaz:
K
K
K

4-1 final
   90. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: July 11, 2022 at 10:25 PM (#6086317)
always amusing when the Mets broadcast booth calls out really stupid managerial decisions.

Unfortunately, Gary and Keith then proceeded to laud a fairly stupid managerial decision, Buck not trusting Lugo with a THREE-run lead and instead going with Diaz on a third straight day.*

* Yes, yes, Diaz is en fuego and struck out the side to earn the save but now he's certainly unavailable to pitch tomorrow.
   91. Howie Menckel Posted: July 11, 2022 at 10:40 PM (#6086320)
that is a fair criticism. didn't realize it was 3rd straight day by Diaz.

that has been my exact bullpen usage gripe for 30 years now.
if you don't have a second reliever who can hold a 3-run lead with 3 outs to go, then you need to fire your GM and get someone in there who can find several.

or the manager is making the mistake himself - and of course that is Buck's most famous Achilles heel blunder.

he's "fighting the last war" - never did let Zach Britton into that O's playoff game, so now he'll overcompensate.

oh well
   92. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 11, 2022 at 11:59 PM (#6086333)
he's "fighting the last war" - never did let Zach Britton into that O's playoff game, so now he'll overcompensate.
It’s not overcompensation so much as the opposite side of the same coin. “The closer gets the saves.” It was a save situation, so who pitches? The closer, of course. If it’s not a save situation, who pitches? Ubaldo Jiménez!
   93. Howie Menckel Posted: July 12, 2022 at 01:01 AM (#6086335)
that, too, is a far point.

Buck is a great manager on so many levels, though, and if he gets lucky for once there is no SV situation on Tuesday night.

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